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[Topher]

I am wondering if I've dodged a bullet... or does it even matter...?

Nah.....it isn't bad. It's just.......whatever the hell this is....

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Nah.....it isn't bad. It's just.......whatever the hell this is....

Man... I'm going to Night City, tonight!!!

 

[Maddoxswe]

Oh yes! Another leauge to be honest!

 

[diffusionx]

I was listening to a podcast today and they said that if you want a big RPG with C&C, lots to do and see, explore, etc., then BG3 is just a way better option than Starfield. But if you want a more action-oriented game with RPG elements, interesting characters and dialogue, story, etc... then CP2077/PL is a way better option than Starfield. So it seems like Starfield just got pinched from all sides, it's just not good enough.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Starfield is a game I rebought a XSX for as I really wanted a Skyrim in space to get lost in for 200+ hours... it wasn't it wasn't even close, It's the reason I've totally given up with the Xbox platform and I'm trying to sell my XSX at a bad loss....Game fuckin sucks how that is 30fps is madness and it looks like shit, writing stinks and the game is just boring.

I feel you

Also bought XSX primarily for Starfield

What a bad decision this has been, but I’ve still gotten some few and far between good games from it

 

[GigaBowser]

cyberpunks was crud at launch better now??

carnt belieeeeve how much Starfield flopped if cyberpunks is better

 

[Sleepwalker]

I feel you

Also bought XSX primarily for Starfield

What a bad decision this has been, but I’ve still gotten some few and far between good games from it

At least you didn't buy one at launch like me lol.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Ask this again after we get 3 years of various improvements/tweaks and added content like CP has had.

 

[L*][*N*K]

is an Apple better than an orange that was polished and worked on for three years post launch?

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

with over 3.5 days of in game time in Starfield (and having loved the game!), I can confirm you are talking 20000% out of your ass when you claim that Starfield is a superior RPG, they both are very similar in terms of their RPG mechanics on offer, and if you want a true "Role-Playing" experience, it's far easier to find that immersion in CP2077 over Starfield and it's various oddities and weird exclusions.

Cyberpunk easily had better characters, better dialogue, a better narrative and better side quests overall. The faction quest for the Crimson Fleet came close but the other faction quests are quite average in Starfield.

Oh look, the two biggest Xbox shills laugh reacted yet can't refute a single point, shocker.

 

[GHG]

 

[GetInTheRobot]

Even back during launch, Cyberpunk 2077 managed to create a unique, beautiful, and convincing world filled with interesting lore, amazing visuals, good storytelling, and a banger soundtrack all around. But all the good stuff was just buried under all the noise from the serious problems it had. What we ended up having is a game with an incredible foundation, but a very weak house. It was a fixer upper. 3 years later, they fixed it up.

Starfield seems to have a different problem where it's launched in a much better state, but it doesn't do anything remarkable, and in some areas it's quite dated in it's design. I think given time we'll some some pretty interesting mods for Starfield that'll improve or change the experience into something better.

Starfields designed in a way where the more you put in the more you get out. In an era where gaming is catered to the player its a bit off putting...cyberpunk is more the former imo...theres alot of fun to be found in it as a game but its not going to reveal systems on systems that you get with starfield. I really like Cyberpunk and i think the way its designed is far more appetizing to the average consumer, but Starfield is a more indepth packed game.

 

[GetInTheRobot]

Godforbit you guys don’t like something, how many threads you guys made dumping on Starfield?

Most of them haven't played it.

 

[Bungie]

You have 4 very different endings in CP2077.

You have one in Starfield. In CP2077 world is actually reactive to your actions. In SF the world and the factions don't give a flying f about you despite your choices and allegiances. Hell, you can skip the whole new DCL altorgether by saying NO.

I feel more incontrol of my story in starfield & I get to choose when I want to do a faction and in what order, they are also filled with so much more content & not just gigs on a map. Also your companions in starfield very much react to everything you do in the game/world, they chime in on countless moments, especially in dialog. Cyberpunk it's just Johnny, the replayability depending on who you have with you is rewarding as well because of that. In all the time it takes to get those 4 endings, I'm still enjoying my first playthrough. I'm not looking forward to the endings of my RPG, I'm looking forward to the experience I had leading up to the end & again Cyberpunk falls flat. The amount of NPCs and side quest I have in starfield is insanely more than Cyberpunk & if you are telling me 4 endings is all that I can get from the lack of content then I rather have 1 ending any day personally.

 

[Danjin44]

Most of them haven't played it.

I mean if you dont like the game why waste so much time on it.....but in reality all this...ALL OF IT is fuelled by "my plastic box is better than your plastic box".....99% of argument in GAF or any gaming forums comes down to this.

 

[Rockondevil]

I enjoyed Cyberpunk but I’ve enjoyed Starfield more.
Both are fine but I wouldn’t compare them personally.

Cyberpunk felt like an action game and Starfield is an RPG.

 

[Gp1]

Cyberpunk gunplay is superb when you consider that the game is a RPG that gives you plenty of options.
Imho it's only matched by some really good pure breed FPSs like Doom and Titanfall.

Starfield doesn't come nowhere close to that, even though the gunplay isn't bad.

 

[Magik85]

Both are superb.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Well, you failed your Int check, congrats.

I'm sure your gay bear lover will comfort you tonight.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

How quickly people forgot the actual release of CP 2077 3 years ago. I think it was the lengthiest OT full of people shitting on the game. Probably record breaking for the whole forum.

 

[Denton]

Cyberpunk felt like an action game and Starfield is an RPG.

Flatout false, both are FPP action RPGs

 

[Bigbelly]

I think it would me more fair to compare them after they both have been out for a similar length of time.
Cyberpunk is good now, so what will SF look like in a few years?

 

[GymWolf]

Is pasta better than soup?

Yes.

 

[GymWolf]

They're good but Johnny scored the best one.

Ass wise nobody beat t-bug...too bad for the baldy haircut.

 

[Rockondevil]

Flatout false, both are FPP action RPGs

Not going to disagree with you. But putting many hours into both one definitely plays more action and one more RPG.
Not sure what you played though.

 

[balls of snow]

This was something I noticed in Starfield. The people in Cyberpunk are very human. The people in Starfield are very alien. They just behave weird due to how outdated the design for NPC interaction is, but the total lack of sexuality adds to how robotic and sterile the setting feels.

Yep. Nobody in Starfield acts like a real human, well except for space Karen.

Cyberpunk gunplay is superb when you consider that the game is a RPG that gives you plenty of options.
Imho it's only matched by some really good pure breed FPSs like Doom and Titanfall.

Starfield doesn't come nowhere close to that, even though the gunplay isn't bad.

Yep. Im pouring through the reworked skillset and the build variety is impressive. In starfield, combat is pretty much, point gun and shoot with the occasional skyrim powers.

 

[KungFucius]

Based on what I have played of Starfield so far and the version of Cyberpunk I played in early 2021, yes Cyberpunk is a better game. That said, I blew over 40 hours doing side quests and faction quests and just started playing the main quest in Starfield. I did like the game at first, but the shitty and outdated systems in the game have just grinded me down to being pissed off at it. The game also wastes the player's time thinking that they should actually play for over 100 hours to get powered up. Fuck that. They took the bad MMO shit from Fallout 76 and added it to Starfield. Stealth is fucking awful, romance is fucking awful, the crime system is fucking awful, having to fast travel everywhere is fucking awful. God damn I need to beat it soon so I can play Phantom Liberty.

 

[Tomeru]

I feel more incontrol of my story in starfield & I get to choose when I want to do a faction and in what order, they are also filled with so much more content & not just gigs on a map. Also your companions in starfield very much react to everything you do in the game/world, they chime in on countless moments, especially in dialog. Cyberpunk it's just Johnny, the replayability depending on who you have with you is rewarding as well because of that. In all the time it takes to get those 4 endings, I'm still enjoying my first playthrough. I'm not looking forward to the endings of my RPG, I'm looking forward to the experience I had leading up to the end & again Cyberpunk falls flat. The amount of NPCs and side quest I have in starfield is insanely more than Cyberpunk & if you are telling me 4 endings is all that I can get from the lack of content then I rather have 1 ending any day personally.

Classic case of quantity over quality.

 

[GymWolf]

Based on what I have played of Starfield so far and the version of Cyberpunk I played in early 2021, yes Cyberpunk is a better game. That said, I blew over 40 hours doing side quests and faction quests and just started playing the main quest in Starfield. I did like the game at first, but the shitty and outdated systems in the game have just grinded me down to being pissed off at it. The game also wastes the player's time thinking that they should actually play for over 100 hours to get powered up. Fuck that. They took the bad MMO shit from Fallout 76 and added it to Starfield. Stealth is fucking awful, romance is fucking awful, the crime system is fucking awful, having to fast travel everywhere is fucking awful. God damn I need to beat it soon so I can play Phantom Liberty.

I mean...the game is an absolute cakewalk on max difficulty from the first minute of gameplay, you really don't need to get overpowered in this game

 

[Flutta]

Nah.....it isn't bad. It's just.......whatever the hell this is....

What the freak is that?

Is this the new ”sexy” according to Todd?

 

[Winter John]

I finished Starfield yesterday. I started off doing everything but as it went on I just focused on the main story. My overall thought on it is it should've been released in 2013 because almost everything in it feels like a 2013 game. I enjoyed it for what it was but it don't come anywhere close to Cyberpunk or BG3. It shouldn't even be compared to them two because those are actual rpgs.

 

[DonJorginho]

Oh look, the two biggest Xbox shills laugh reacted yet can't refute a single point, shocker.

Sadly am not surprised either, same two people always respond to me whenever I have criticized PS in the past, makes you think doesn't it?

 

[DryvBy]

Yes on every front.

 

[GigaBowser]

Nah.....it isn't bad. It's just.......whatever the hell this is....

purple forum posters

 

[Schmendrick]

Yes.
With the 2.0 update and the newly released DLC cyberpunk is in a completely different league.
Starfield feels downright archaic in a lot of aspects.

 

[Madflavor]

Starfields designed in a way where the more you put in the more you get out. In an era where gaming is catered to the player its a bit off putting...cyberpunk is more the former imo...theres alot of fun to be found in it as a game but its not going to reveal systems on systems that you get with starfield. I really like Cyberpunk and i think the way its designed is far more appetizing to the average consumer, but Starfield is a more indepth packed game.

That assumes that your immersion isn't first broken due to the game's archaic approach to NPC interaction, loading screens, and world design. But if those things don't bother you, yes I can see getting more out of Starfield from a roleplaying perspective. The problem is that there have been other RPGs and Worlds that have surpassed Bethesda's design philosophy, including Starfield's, for many years now. Cyberpunk 2077's roleplay mechanics are obviously not as in depth as Starfield's, but it does a much more convincing job with making it's world and people feel a lot more real.

There is also a common thread I've been seeing from some people who love Starfield, where the more they played, the more the game fell apart for them because the procedurally generated worlds, bases, NPC placement, really started to rear it's ugly head.

 

[STARSBarry]

BootsLoader

Perhaps you could add a poll to the thread? I mean I assume Starfield is going to get shit on, but you never know there could be a silent majority hidden on neogaf that think starfield is the greatest game ever made.

 

[marjo]

is an Apple better than an orange that was polished and worked on for three years post launch?

Granny Smith > Orange >>>> Red Delicious

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Quick answer: CyberPunk easy.


Longer answer:

CyberPunk is absolutely brilliant, I just wish there was more depth to its world more quests and missions and more character development but damn it's a good game and it runs like silk on PS5 now.

Starfield is a game I rebought a XSX for as I really wanted a Skyrim in space to get lost in for 200+ hours... it wasn't it wasn't even close, It's the reason I've totally given up with the Xbox platform and I'm trying to sell my XSX at a bad loss....Game fuckin sucks how that is 30fps is madness and it looks like shit, writing stinks and the game is just boring.

So a game wasn't for you and you abandon a platform? Holy shit. You depressed?

 

[manlisten]

Taking a break from Starfield to dig into PL but I’ll be right back on it once I’m done. Both games scratch different itches for me, but Starfield just feels like that “cozy” game that I’ll be picking away at for a longer time.

 

[JTCx]

Whether you like Starfield or not, it has one of the greatest soundtracks in gaming history, IMO.

Like clockwork.

 

[Mownoc]

I found cyberpunk more enjoyable. After preordering early access to starfield it hasn't hooked me in at all despite Bethesda RPG's being my most played and loved titles.

I will wait to return to Starfield at a later date and see if I can enjoy it in the future.

Cyberpunk I thought was good even relatively close to it's launch. On PC.

 

[iQuasarLV]

Starfield isn't even better than the 2020 version of Cyberpunk.

 

[iQuasarLV]

I mean if you dont like the game why waste so much time on it.....but in reality all this...ALL OF IT is fulled by "my plastic box is better than you plastic box".....99% of argument in GAF or any gaming forums comes down to this.

 

[Danjin44]

PC gamers are no better, they act like religious cult that desperately trying to get other people join their group.

 

[iQuasarLV]

PC gamers are no better, they act like religious cult that desperately trying to get other people join their group.

Yeah, did you not watch the video? It is like you did not and rehashed the point FlashGitz was making in it without knowing it.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Nah.....it isn't bad. It's just.......whatever the hell this is....

This exactly what you'll always get when a game offers "Body Type 1" / "Body Type 2" instead of male and female.

That, and the atrociously ugly genderless clothing for everyone.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

After 50+ hours with the new 2.0 update I can say with all certainty that Cyberpunk’s skill tree / perks and all RPG systems related to it shit from the top of the highest mountain on Starfield. I have close to 200 hours in Starfield.

 

[Topher]

This exactly what you'll always get when a game offers "Body Type 1" / "Body Type 2" instead of male and female.

That, and the atrociously ugly genderless clothing for everyone.

I didn't really notice that stuff until DonkeyPunchJr pointed it out then I couldn't stop seeing it. lol

And then I move over to Cyberpunk and....well....

 

[Bojji]

Ask this again after we get 3 years of various improvements/tweaks and added content like CP has had.

I think it would me more fair to compare them after they both have been out for a similar length of time.
Cyberpunk is good now, so what will SF look like in a few years?

Bethesda is not known for this, so far they didn't even release single good patch with promised features and I completed the game in that time (more than 70h). Look at F4 or Skyrim, other than some DLC Bethesda don't really change their game much, they updated engine in Skyrim after few years so it looks better but that's it. They will abandon this game (just like Arkane did with Redfall)

I enjoyed Cyberpunk but I’ve enjoyed Starfield more.
Both are fine but I wouldn’t compare them personally.

Cyberpunk felt like an action game and Starfield is an RPG.

What is that much RPG about Starfield? I think it has less choice than cyberpunk when it comes to story and skill system is really bad (on par with CP at launch probably). In both games core gameplay element is shooting enemies.