Danjin44
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That’s only reason why I keep my PS5 around, without 3rd party Japanese games I have no reason to keep my PS5…..this gen I completely lost interest in Sony’s first party games.
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Upcoming Playstation games in 2024 (inc. Silent Hill 2 and Snake Eater)
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bender
What time is it?
I'm expecting them to be bad and am genuinely curious which one will be worse. I'll probably have to find out for myself just how badly Konami will fuck up two of my favorite games ever.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Fucking lit!!!!
All I need in addition to these are Pragmata and Synduality and 2024 will be the GOAT year of gaming ever.
All I need in addition to these are Pragmata and Synduality and 2024 will be the GOAT year of gaming ever.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Is this the new thing we're going with in 2024?
Calling PlayStation Studios titles like Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, etc. "third-party" enough times that it sticks?
Synduality was supposed to be released last year, and both the anime and manga came out in July. Weird.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
True, but they are likely waiting to give DS2 its own State Of Play or something.
Same with that Concord game.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Sony may have a deal with Capcom to have that game have its own State Of Play, so its likely they want some exclusive random showing to take over the media cycle. Ala RE3 remake reveal.
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Giallo Corsa
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Wipeout 2 introduced me to Sasha with "Expander"
What a soundtrack man !
Edit : it was actually Wipeout 3
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Onironauta
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Black Myth is a Chinese game
yazenov
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Ramz87
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Pragmata looked interesting, have they confirmed a release window or anything for it yet?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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And? What's that supposed to imply?
Check the end of the vid posted in my post above. That's the extent of what we know so far.
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Giallo Corsa
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I enjoyed FF7RE for what it was and FF7RE Rebirth seems to be an expanded version of that and it's OK, other than that though that's a...pretty poor showcase reel.
- People are actually hyped about Stellar tits and ass ? At best, it's gonna be a lukewarm Bayonetta/DMC clone, at worst, it's gonna be the next X-blades where the T & A are the only things it has going for.
- Rise of the Ronin : i'm just tired of team ninja shit, just give us a Goddamn new Ninja Gaiden and not another Souls-like combat clone
- Prince of Persia : not gonna comment
- Yakuza : I'm done after playing 5 games, had my fill
- Helldivers : i'm done with GaaS shit, last one was Exoprimal and...yeah.
- Tekken 8 : Well, if you like tekken it's cool i suppose ?
- Suicide squ... LOL, no need to even shit on it
- Concord : I'm kinda curious but it's still GaaS so zero fucks will be given
- Silent Hill 2 : was over the moon when they announced it but i just can't be positive about it since, well, Bloober team and Konami...
- Dragon's Dogma 2 : i actually wished for it but nothing has grabbed me from all the promo videos so far
- MGS Snake Eater : one of my GOATs but after Konami's latest MGS collection, yeahhh...
- couple of indie games : i don't care
Here's the thing though , it's not even about the bullet points/games shown, it's about the absolute lack of new games/projects - games that can make you go "wow" and actually make you feel like the 500 Eurodollars you spent...3 friggin' years ago was a actually a good "investment".Where's Capcom's Pragmata ? where's a new Ninja gaiden (rumoured to be in the works for years now), where's MGS Rising 2 ? Where's little devil inside ? Where's - you get the idea...There's just nothing exciting anymore for fook's sake, out of ALL those games, only FF7RE Rebirth seems like a "big hitter" and one to actually make people buy a damn PS5 (and i'm not a FF fan either).
It's either the usual 3rd party stuff or in the case of exclusives, GOW, Spiderman games and GaaS shit 'til the end end of days apparently (and remasters).
I WANT to be excited, i just can't find a good reason though
- People are actually hyped about Stellar tits and ass ? At best, it's gonna be a lukewarm Bayonetta/DMC clone, at worst, it's gonna be the next X-blades where the T & A are the only things it has going for.
- Rise of the Ronin : i'm just tired of team ninja shit, just give us a Goddamn new Ninja Gaiden and not another Souls-like combat clone
- Prince of Persia : not gonna comment
- Yakuza : I'm done after playing 5 games, had my fill
- Helldivers : i'm done with GaaS shit, last one was Exoprimal and...yeah.
- Tekken 8 : Well, if you like tekken it's cool i suppose ?
- Suicide squ... LOL, no need to even shit on it
- Concord : I'm kinda curious but it's still GaaS so zero fucks will be given
- Silent Hill 2 : was over the moon when they announced it but i just can't be positive about it since, well, Bloober team and Konami...
- Dragon's Dogma 2 : i actually wished for it but nothing has grabbed me from all the promo videos so far
- MGS Snake Eater : one of my GOATs but after Konami's latest MGS collection, yeahhh...
- couple of indie games : i don't care
Here's the thing though , it's not even about the bullet points/games shown, it's about the absolute lack of new games/projects - games that can make you go "wow" and actually make you feel like the 500 Eurodollars you spent...3 friggin' years ago was a actually a good "investment".Where's Capcom's Pragmata ? where's a new Ninja gaiden (rumoured to be in the works for years now), where's MGS Rising 2 ? Where's little devil inside ? Where's - you get the idea...There's just nothing exciting anymore for fook's sake, out of ALL those games, only FF7RE Rebirth seems like a "big hitter" and one to actually make people buy a damn PS5 (and i'm not a FF fan either).
It's either the usual 3rd party stuff or in the case of exclusives, GOW, Spiderman games and GaaS shit 'til the end end of days apparently (and remasters).
I WANT to be excited, i just can't find a good reason though
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Great news that Stellar Blade, Silent Hill 2 and MGS3 Remake are already confirmed for 2024.
Stellar Blade and SH2 are really likely to be Q2 releases.
Tons of fantastic games to play and of course it's not even the full lineup, just the already announced games that currently have a 2024 release date.
Stellar Blade and SH2 are really likely to be Q2 releases.
Tons of fantastic games to play and of course it's not even the full lineup, just the already announced games that currently have a 2024 release date.
Onironauta
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I'm not implying anything, just letting you know it's not a Japanese game, since you put it in that least
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Shadowstar39
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Silent Hill 2 --- bring it!!!
FF7 remake pt2
Rise of Ronin
Stellar Blade -- Will be a gamer hit and a "journalist" and ree ree era pearl clutching fest. Can't wait!
Dragons Dogma 2 - Take my money now!
Yakuza like a dragon sequel - cool but still have to play the first one (and all the past yakuza games in my backlog. Have yakuza 0 in my steam deck, but put it down for other games, fun but got repetitive).
Tekken 8 - may be good, wait and see.
Metal gear 3 re- ehh, wait and see. We already had this with the hd collection and on 3ds.
All great. SH2, Dragons Dogma and Stellar Blade, are my day 1. FF7 and ronin are down the line after a slight discount or if nothing else to buy.
Also where the hell is Suikoden collection? Konami needs to hire people to actually make games and re-release classics. I hate how so much is tied to them. A new 3d metroidvania castlevania game, like a real one, not a god of war/dmc clone, but a exploration game. Where is that konmai? oh right pachinko machiens are all that matter. ( Who the hell even plays pachinko. Its just some pins on a board. No skill just chance).... and suikoden collection is nice but where are 3,4,5 and tactics. include all those in one or two games. They don't take up space. Suikoden 1-6 plus tactics. .
FF7 remake pt2
Rise of Ronin
Stellar Blade -- Will be a gamer hit and a "journalist" and ree ree era pearl clutching fest. Can't wait!
Dragons Dogma 2 - Take my money now!
Yakuza like a dragon sequel - cool but still have to play the first one (and all the past yakuza games in my backlog. Have yakuza 0 in my steam deck, but put it down for other games, fun but got repetitive).
Tekken 8 - may be good, wait and see.
Metal gear 3 re- ehh, wait and see. We already had this with the hd collection and on 3ds.
All great. SH2, Dragons Dogma and Stellar Blade, are my day 1. FF7 and ronin are down the line after a slight discount or if nothing else to buy.
Also where the hell is Suikoden collection? Konami needs to hire people to actually make games and re-release classics. I hate how so much is tied to them. A new 3d metroidvania castlevania game, like a real one, not a god of war/dmc clone, but a exploration game. Where is that konmai? oh right pachinko machiens are all that matter. ( Who the hell even plays pachinko. Its just some pins on a board. No skill just chance).... and suikoden collection is nice but where are 3,4,5 and tactics. include all those in one or two games. They don't take up space. Suikoden 1-6 plus tactics. .
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Shadowstar39
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I concur. As someone who is into Rock/classic rock, metal, grunge, industrial, and 80s-90s-early 2000s techno, I completely agree.
Everything is all hip hop today, and it is not even good stuff. What I call good hip hop was from the 80s and 90s, this shit sounds so bland, corporatized and meh.
Also the lack of rock, metal and techno everywhere is getting super annoying.
I recently bought skate 3 and burnout revenge on xbox X and man the soundtracks on those games was great. A mix of genres. Contrast that to the last game like that I bought need for speed heat, which was 99% modern hip hop and ZERO metal/rock or techno.
It's like these companies don't want my money.
Also its been horrible on places like spotify, you never hear new artists from those genres in the spotlight, its always modern hip hop, pop(taylor swift) and country.... barf....
Bond007
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Not a whole lot of excitement for me here. Hope we get new announcements for 2024.
MGS, Silent Hill are no brainers for me- but its not exactly new. Same for Last of Us and FF.
Literally nothing else im interested in. Gonna be a down year for me if this all we got on my primary console.
My Xbox is crickets though
Guess i can anticipate Switch 2 for 2024. lol
MGS, Silent Hill are no brainers for me- but its not exactly new. Same for Last of Us and FF.
Literally nothing else im interested in. Gonna be a down year for me if this all we got on my primary console.
My Xbox is crickets though
Guess i can anticipate Switch 2 for 2024. lol
splattered
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I see that list and only really consider Helldivers 2 1-2nd party.
I don't consider anything Xbox publishes from a 3rd party studio as a 1st party game.
This is nothing new for me from 2024.
Also i have low expectations for Rise of Ronin and Stellar Blade. Helldivers 2 doesn't even look as good to me as the first one did.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Games published by a company are first-party games. Always.
It's the reason why Age of Empires, Forza Horizon 1-4, Microsoft Flight Simulator, etc., are all first-party Microsoft XGS games. And why Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, etc. are all first-party PlayStation Studios titles.
What you or I consider is immaterial if it goes against industry standards and what the majority agrees upon.
There is no difference in a God of War or a Rise of the Ronin; they are both PlayStation Studios titles.
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Heisenberg007
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2 PlayStation Studios titles in just the first 3 months are "lacking?"
What frequency do you usually expect by a game publisher?
tmlDan
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what do you mean "now"? It is one of the greatest horror games ever (maybe im biased cause i adored it as a kid lol)
tomato shrub
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At least with MGS3 there's now an official port of the original widely available. I might be able to swallow up Bloober Hill if at least we had good HD remasters of the original trilogy, but alas... it will be a shitshow.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You already know he's talking about first party developed titles, not games from third party that Sony is publishing. No need for so much filler.
Hudo
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It's nothing of interest for me. The only interesting first-party Sony PS5 exclusive has been Demon's Souls 2020. I played TLoU2 and was so disappointed with it that it killed all interest in Naughty Dog that I had and GoW died for me with the 2018 title. Superhero stuff never did it for me. So Sony first-party doesn't have anything in store for me.
If you get your fair share of stuff to play from them, then that's cool! More power to you! I had much more fun with Sony's first-party stuff in the PS2 era, tho. But maybe I'm getting old.
ChorizoPicozo
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nothing. this is normal.
NeoIkaruGAF
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I guess the dozens of negative expectations for the PS5 remake I’ve read in several threads on GAF in the past months must have been a fever dream, then? I haven’t seen that many excited people because of who is handling the remake. But in this thread suddenly it seems everyone is like, who ever doubted this will be great?
mckmas8808
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I can't vouch for the PS2 days because my memory isn't that great when it comes to E3s and keeping track of this stuff. But 100% during the PS3 and PS4 era there was ALOT more communication with the gamers. They don't even do Playstation Experience anymore. That was a Shawn Layden thing and they killed it once he was going to leave as CEO of Playstation. They showed TLOU2 for the first time there in 2016. Along with showing games like Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne there. Real gameplay demos too!
They started skipping E3 in 2019 too. I don't think these changes were coincides.
mckmas8808
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It's insane that Silent Hill 2 could be coming out in 2 or 3 months and we still aren't seeing it AT ALL!!!
Good! That's the way Sony likes it.
CamHostage
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Maybe, but there's a parallel happening which much more simply explains the change: live video showcases.
Nintendo Direct started in 2011; by 2013, the stream was popular enough that they pulled out of doing the annual E3 live reveal+business report showcase. (They still had floor space at E3, but at the time it was shocking to not have a keynote, to the point that reports/comments were that "Nintendo wasn't doing E3".) 2019 was when Sony launched State of Play, but even at E3 2018, Sony was already experimenting with not doing the big showcase sizzle reel, and instead had the intimate 4-game experience of Spidey / Death Stranding / Ghost of Tsushima / TLoU2. In 2019, State of Play took over.
Streams have made both trade shows and in-person announcement blowouts an extravagance that publishers don't need to bother with anymore. Publishers can get as much done with one YT stream as they could an expensive conference hall and stage show with press and attendees. COVID then reconfirmed that the old approach was unnecessary. So now, not only do all the console manufacturers have their own semi-regular Showcase and Spotlight streams, but each publisher now has its own set of announcement event video shows. And E3 is dead.
Sony did have four years of its own exclusive PlayStation Experience fan event (the North American version started in 2014; Europe before and Asia afterwards had their own PS fan events in different capacities, but the PSX we know of in the US was a major international event.) Even by 2017 though, PSX was running short on explosive announcements, and there was no 2018 or 2019 PlayStation Experience, nor was there one to support the launch of PS5 (for some unfortunate reasons, but who knows if they ever planned to bother?)
...I lament the death of PSX events, for sure, and don't know why fan events died off (Microsoft had one for a short while too,) Some companies still do, and events like QuakeCon and BlizzCon are regular moments to put on the calendar. However, these tend to be based around tourneys/merch more than announcements, and announcements at fan events have tapered down given the smaller slate and longer schedules at all publishing houses. They don't have as much to announce anymore (unless they have a GAAS, in which case the announcement is more stuff for the same product,) and the parent companies want to maximize announcement timing on their own business schedule.
Had these current consoles launched under different conditions, i think there might have been some live fan events for that old razzle-dazzle, but even then, look at the games which have come out or been announced in the three years since launch.... what would those megaton reveals have been at PSX 2020? It's 2024, and still not a lot of big bombs have dropped.
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Heisenberg007
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There is no such thing as "first-party developed titles".
There are "first-party games" and "third-party games". That's it.
First-party games are those that are funded and published by the company we're talking about / platform holders. In this case, Sony and Microsoft. All the games I mentioned above qualify for that.
And these companies literally refer to these games as first-party games and such studios as first-party studios (even if they've not acquired them). Because it's always all about who funded the game.
Proof: Microsoft refers to Moon Studios as a first-party studio in Ori's fact sheet.
I'm not saying anything that's against industry standards. What you're saying, is.
Microsoft literally says, "Moon Studios is an independent video game development studio" and "Moon Studio became a Microsoft First Party Developer" in the same paragraph. Because Moon Studios became the developer of "first-party" game.
MiguelItUp
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Finally watched this and it felt pretty bizarre to me considering so many of the titles are multiplatform. I feel like it would've been much more exciting if it was exclusive, after exclusive.
That being said, there are a few titles here that I'm interested in, but nothing that's blowing my mind, which really bums me out. I want to be SO hyped about MGS and SH2, but I'm so reserved on both for obvious reasons. Especially with SH2 since I love it so much.
That being said, there are a few titles here that I'm interested in, but nothing that's blowing my mind, which really bums me out. I want to be SO hyped about MGS and SH2, but I'm so reserved on both for obvious reasons. Especially with SH2 since I love it so much.
mckmas8808
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And I think Microsoft going all GamePass heavy and now putting out alot of big hitters as also lead Sony to these same conclusions. There's just no pressure anymore to have the "DRIVE" to excite gamers anymore. It's like, "who cares, they'll buy it when it's available either way so why try to excite them 12-18 months early."
There is no such thing as "first-party developed titles".
There are "first-party games" and "third-party games". That's it.
First-party games are those that are funded and published by the company we're talking about / platform holders. In this case, Sony and Microsoft. All the games I mentioned above qualify for that.
And these companies literally refer to these games as first-party games and such studios as first-party studios (even if they've not acquired them). Because it's always all about who funded the game.
Proof: Microsoft refers to Moon Studios as a first-party studio in Ori's fact sheet.
I'm not saying anything that's against industry standards. What you're saying, is.
Microsoft literally says, "Moon Studios is an independent video game development studio" and "Moon Studio became a Microsoft First Party Developer" in the same paragraph. Because Moon Studios became the developer of "first-party" game.
Yeah the way "WE" gamers and people in the media use the term "2nd party game" doesn't really exist in the industry. I didn't realize this until the last few years. It's either 1st party of 3rd party.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Huh? Of course there is. Games developed by first party studios. Studios like Bend, Naughty Dogs etc.
Again, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The user you quoted is talking about first party studios. No one is discrediting that Sony has funded, made deals, or publishing games like Ronin.
Horseganador
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The narrative now is about selling that Sony has nothing and that MS has a very strong year, it is as easy as lying saying that Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin or Stellar Blade are not first (even if they are financed by Sony...) or belittling important exclusives like FF7 Rebirth while including games like Stalker 2 as "exclusives" without any shame (the fact that it comes out on PC day one is also overlooked).
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But like what does that even mean? "There is no game this year from a select group of studios?"
In that case, one can say 2023 had no Xbox game as it had no game from The Coalition, 343i, and Playground? (because the group of studios I selected?)
And again, any developer that works on a first-party game becomes a first-party studio for that duration. I literally showed you an example of Microsoft calling Moon Studios a "first-party studio" because they were working on Ori, a first-party game.
So in this case, Team Ninja, Arrowhead, Shift Up are all first-party studios for Sony this year because they are working on first-party PS Studios games, along with xDev, another first-party Sony studio.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This is the weirdest pedantic argument ever.
Anyway, Ronin looks like a solid 6/10, the inclusion of difficulty modes means there's more incentive for me to check it out. Helldivers looks like it should have launched on PS+ day 1.
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Punished Miku
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Video game developer - Wikipedia
Literally everyone I've ever talked to about it uses these definitions. You can keep defining it however you want, but no one is ever going to know what you're talking about.
rhodesianshepard
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If you don't like deep complex combat then Ronin is certainly not for you.
This is the weirdest pedantic argument ever.
Anyway, Ronin looks like a solid 6/10, the inclusion of difficulty modes means there's more incentive for me to check it out. Helldivers looks like it should have launched on PS+ day 1.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Your source is Wikipedia? The same website that literally anyone on the Internet can edit?Video game developer - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Literally everyone I've ever talked to about it uses these definitions. You can keep defining it however you want, but no one is ever going to know what you're talking about.
And you're presenting it as a counter over Xbox's official documents and statements?
Punished Miku
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I don't care what you want to define it as, but you're going to have to get in this same debate and clarification pretty much every time. My source is myself and every conversation I've ever had about it.
I don't care if internally they call all of it 1st party. To me that makes no sense. You get more specific information by using 1st, 2nd and 3rd party definitions. They're different things. Insomniac pre-acquisition is different than Insomniac post-acquisition. They were not 1st party, and then they were. I don't see any advantage in blurring the information. It doesn't help clarify anything.
Heisenberg007
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Bro ... lol.
Your source is yourself. I am presenting official documents from Microsoft and referencing statements by Phil Spencer.
Regarding Insomniac, there is no difference than the one we can create here. They were funded by Sony before, and they are funded by Sony now. They were working on PS Studios titles before and they are working on PS Studios now.
Punished Miku
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Except when they went and made Fuse and Sunset Overdrive and a Quest VR game, 3 things that will never happen now since there clearly is a big difference between being 1st party, or being 2nd party and getting limited mercenary contracts. You can keep going though. I have nothing else to add.
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