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Phil Spencer: announcement this week
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Robb
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ByWatterson
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"We generally like to destroy consoles on a Friday."
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PaintTinJr
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It would be a collection of all town halls, so historically from the formation of modern day Britain this would be a "Witan", no?
"...The witan also had to elect and approve the appointment of a new king. Its membership was composed of the most important noblemen, including ealdormen, thegns, and senior clergy."
What new narrative?
I don't really see him saying everything different since all the rumors started.
MonkeyClaw36
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Yes and rightly so. Fuck Xbox as a brand. Even the people at the helm don't care obviously.
At least come with a date or something. Hell, I jumped this sinking ship months ago and even I am angered by the fact they just blatantly leave people hanging.
It's not a good look and it will hurt them A LOT.
Killjoy-NL
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Completely unrelated, but last week it has been raining non-stop over here, but today is a bright sunny day.
Kokoloko85
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There might not be any games coming to other platforms. Or they just say its for the Switch And they have a partnership with Nintendo
Maybe he mentioned the future of the Platform and just talks about the Handheld and Streaming Stick, that would also kill all the rumours
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MonkeyClaw36
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HeisenbergFX4
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Schmick
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Whatever happens during this Business Update Xbox are screwed.
Unless they are specific as to exactly which games are going multiplatform current and future, gamers will just assume that they will all be (eventually). Just like how (Xbox) gamers assume that games will eventually go to Gamepass and so just wait.
And I don't know how they send the correct message. Its going to get confusing.
Perhaps they'll announce that only Xbox Game Studio's will remain exclusive and games under the Bethesda and Activision umbrella will be mulitplat?! That would explain Hi-Fi Rush. But then you have Sea of Thieves. A XGS game. Although that's a GaaS and so would benefit going multiplatform it just muddies the water.
If Phil ends the Business Update maintaining this case-by-case approach to exclusivity, they haven't made things any better. The leaks and rumours have caused too much damage at this point.
Maybe.... as soon as a game is announced (for the first time) they also announce there and then which platform it will be on without any delay. And then by sticking to that approach gamers will see a clear path looking forward as to which games are exclusive and which ones are multiplatform. And I actually think that the games would have to be released on all systems on the same day as well. There cannot be any doubt. Exclusive or not exclusive, and the games must remain that way during the time they are sold.
Unless they are specific as to exactly which games are going multiplatform current and future, gamers will just assume that they will all be (eventually). Just like how (Xbox) gamers assume that games will eventually go to Gamepass and so just wait.
And I don't know how they send the correct message. Its going to get confusing.
Perhaps they'll announce that only Xbox Game Studio's will remain exclusive and games under the Bethesda and Activision umbrella will be mulitplat?! That would explain Hi-Fi Rush. But then you have Sea of Thieves. A XGS game. Although that's a GaaS and so would benefit going multiplatform it just muddies the water.
If Phil ends the Business Update maintaining this case-by-case approach to exclusivity, they haven't made things any better. The leaks and rumours have caused too much damage at this point.
Maybe.... as soon as a game is announced (for the first time) they also announce there and then which platform it will be on without any delay. And then by sticking to that approach gamers will see a clear path looking forward as to which games are exclusive and which ones are multiplatform. And I actually think that the games would have to be released on all systems on the same day as well. There cannot be any doubt. Exclusive or not exclusive, and the games must remain that way during the time they are sold.
HeWhoWalks
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Didn't even consider that first point (about just waiting, ala Game Pass).
And you're exactly right! Anytime they announce a new game, folks will wonder. If they announce even one exclusive is headed to other consoles this week, the floodgates are open permanently.
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HeisenbergFX4
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People thought that about Playstation games heading to PC and those gates haven't opened fully
I remember a bunch of blue bloods saying there was no reason to own a PS5 if they port a single game
cireza
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They don't have to talk about any rumor at all.
You are simply setting unrealistic expectations to prepare your next narrative, which will be stuff like "Phil lied again" and "They didn't deny X and Y rumor so they are happening" etc... We know quite well how you work.
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HeWhoWalks
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Affirmative, but going forward, the expectation that PC will see PlayStation games is real, whether they wait six months or two years. Of course, because this isn't a day/date situation, and a chunk of their properties are wildly popular, Sony continues to see massive success regardless of how long they wait. In Xbox's case, they presumably aren't seeing the returns needed to sustain single console exclusivity, and thus, once the other consoles get some of their games, many will just wait. Perhaps enough to not even warrant skipping Day 1 anymore.People thought that about Playstation games heading to PC and those gates haven't opened fully
I remember a bunch of blue bloods saying there was no reason to own a PS5 if they port a single game
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Maddoxswe
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I don't know how he works, so who are "we" ?
That Damn Kid
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H-I-M
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Mephisto40
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It's already been confirmed the newest build of Hifi rush has Playstation assets in it now, so it's not going to be that
HeisenbergFX4
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cireza
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Everybody else.
Maddoxswe
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Woopah
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Because its probably undecided for now. I doubt the plan is to make these two Xbox ganes multiplatform, and then no other games for the rest of time.
If you name specific games that are staying exclusive, you generate speculation about all the games you don't mention.
Maybe they'll add something to clarify like "no other games will go multiplatform in 2024".
Ar¢tos
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Calm down. People at Xbox are busy selling their shares because they know the value will crash after the announcement.
FrankWza
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Wasn't it an easy, solderless mod too? I think flashed consoles could go online without detection
Mephisto40
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If the insider reports are anything to go by, Bethesda as a company are doing everything they can to convince Microsoft to let them release on other platforms, the exclusivity is seriously damaging their brand from a financial point of view. We've already had a number of podcasts with insider knowledge mention this in the past week
spons
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Nah, they definitely banned a lot of people using those DVD-drive firmware mods.
In fact, over a million people got their consoles banned: https://www.cnet.com/culture/report-microsoft-bans-1-million-xbox-live-players/
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ArcaneNLSC
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HeisenbergFX4
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Why wouldn't ANY studio want to sell their games to millions more potential customers?
Ar¢tos
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Exactly what developers have been begging for! More Hardware profiles to debug and optimize games!
Sleepwalker
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They definitely banned modded consoles.
The mod wasn't as easy either, modding a 360 requires soldering most of the time, even nowadays.
Mephisto40
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Which is exactly why this "Maybe it's just a few games that are going multiplat" wishful thinking is a foolish view to take
If this is having such a huge impact on a company like Bethesda that they are having to go begging to get their games on other consoles, imagine the impact this is having on smaller studios
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MonkeyClaw36
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No you don't. The community does that.
It's like saying " I love waffles"
Someone might spin it as "So you hate pancakes?" <- Community
That's a different subject. Telling what IS to come isn't the same as generating speculation. You just took some doubt away and gave clarity.
It's the tinfoil hat audience that creates speculation.
MonkeyClaw36
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Then they should develop for PC exclusively. Or do we want a hybrid? I sure as Hell don't.
A modular console is a pc with a Non Windows OS. Nothing more.
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digoutyoursoul
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Despite RROD, I thought 360 was an excellent console in its own right. Evolved online console gaming , had good features for the time, a great controller and some excellent games.
Dr_Ifto
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MonkeyClaw36
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It was 1 hell of a system! Made many friends across the world with Xbox Live.
Xbox Live was some next level stuff compared to the barebones PS3 experience
Customer service was out of this world
Top tier games
Xbox Live Arcade was a neat and yet underrated feature
I preferred it over the PS3 by miles.
TheGodfather07
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I'm not surprised that there are xbox fans naive enough to actually think Microsoft will only port a couple of games and leave it there. Once you open the gates, anything goes. Nothing will be off the table anymore.
Ar¢tos
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And ignore 50+m playstations out there?
wow the the gas are covering lmao
digoutyoursoul
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Me too, it’s what made Xbox great.
If it wasn’t for Warhawk and Uncharted , Last of Us, I probably wouldn’t have bothered with PS3 at all.
In my opinion Xbox One/Series pale in comparison and that is what disappoints me the most.
Lukaku's First Touch
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So when is this supposed to happen?