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How long till we see a STEAMPASS?

ChorizoPicozo

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poppabk said:
And made more money off the remaining ones.
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Great Success Win GIF
 
Topher

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Generic said:
It will never happen, gamers prefer to pay $70 to rent a license a single game instead of $15-20 for multiple games.

It's really the only community in thr world where people enjoy paying more for the same things. You will never see people demanding to pay $70 for a single movie.
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Nah....that ain't it. Movies are a two to three hour investment. Video games are often played across multiple weeks. That $15-20 can easily get more than $70 for the vast majority of casual gamers who only play an hour or two per week at a time. And even beyond that, the majority of best selling games every year are not on subscription services at all. Others like Call of Duty are games people play year around and it just makes more sense to buy the game outright. None of this is comparable to $70 for a single two to three hour movie.
 
jshackles

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Here's the fun part: since Steam lets publishers and developers generate their own keys (for free!) you're actually more than welcome to make this into a reality yourself. Just gotta convince a lot of publishers and developers to let you put their games on your SteamPass service in exchange for a cut of the profits.

And congratulations, you just re-invented Humble Choice.
 
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RespawnX

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ChorizoPicozo said:
Game Pass Killed sales on Xbox
Game Pass Killed The 30% cut
Game Pass killed Phil's savior status.
Game Pass Killed Xbox Marketing.
Game Pass Killed..... Xbox.


No one:
When is Steam Pass a thing?
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There is no need for Steam Pass. They have absolute dominance in the PC market, are detaching themselves more and more from Windows and slowly but steadily expanding into the handheld sector and are sure to come up with even more.

Microsoft has absolutely pulverized its own strategy with the ABK purchase. They have absolutely no long-term prospects. They state“Everything is an Xbox”. Fuck it. My wife and I were talking about current titles earlier and realized that 0.0 of them are Play Anywhere. Most are on Xbox console, virtually none in the Windows Store and none in the xCloud stream. Redmond has completely lost focus and driven their business into deepest shit.

Valve is far more focused. They try new things, carefully and grow slowly but steadily.
 
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damidu

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game subscription model has been categorically rejected by general public, get over it.
"netflix of gaming" was the slogan that only a complete moron could come up with.
 
diffusionx

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hemo memo said:
You do realize that PS+ is a game subscription service, right? The one Sony has been running for 15 years.
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The PS+ revamp was a huge mistake. But even then - why do you think they dont put their games day one on the service? Because it destroys the value of the games. Bobby Kotick was right when he said this, and he suckered MS into giving him $70B for something they are going to piss away. FOX did the same thing to Disney when they sold their catalog.

poppabk said:
Netflix 2024
Revenue: US$39.0b (up 16% from FY 2023).

Net income: US$8.71b (up 61% from FY 2023).
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Netflix exists to churn out disposable slop to idiots. They produce nothing of value.
 
Wildebeest

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What I want when I log onto steam is to have to pay an entry fee every month to get "free" access to 100 games I would never choose to play otherwise.
 
Sorcerer

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How would this even work? Steam has about 50,000 games. Imagine trying to coordinate with publishers to allow their games on Steam? And if you do offer only a handful it would cheapen the experience.
 
RCX

RCX

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I do not want to ever see it.

If it did ever come into being, I would never subscribe to it.

I want to buy my games. Yes I know, steam games = licenses etc, but that still means I play it when I want to, at any time now or in the future.

I also want to see devs being encouraged to make quality games. A subscription future only ensures a race to the bottom.
 
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dragonyeuw

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Nah. There's too many ways to get dirt cheap steam keys that I'd rather just buy what I want and play on my own timeline. Even now I have a 3 month Gamepass subscription and I feel 'pressured' to play enough to justify using it ( and I got it free, it would be even worse if I was paying for it). That's not how I want to consume media generally.
 
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asdasdasdbb

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Sony does make a ton of money off of PS+. Granted I assume most only subscribe to get the Paid MP. I have no idea how many people subscribe to the higher tiers.
 
rm082e

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DragonNCM said:
GP was actually good strategy....till they implemented AAA/AA games & day one launch for first party games.
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Didn't that happen pretty quickly though? I seem to remember Gamepass came out in 2017 and it was within months they said all first party games would be released day 1. I think they said PC versions day 1 around that same time.
 
bender

bender

What time is it?
As Steam has proven, allowing 3rd parties to use your GAAS as an online casino for children is far more profitable than a rental service.
 
GHG

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Topher said:
Eh....more like being a tightwad than a beggar, I think. Begging is looking for a handout. Looking out for the best deal someone can get to play games ain't begging.
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What do you say of all the people who parrot "will wait for gamepass" or words to that effect? Game sales on the Xbox console platform reflect that attitude as well. So in summary, you've got a bunch of people who don't want to pay full price for the subscription and will do anything to circumvent that, and on top of that many of them refuse to even purchase games outside of gamepass. It might sound harsh, but when I look at all of that, "beggars" is the word that springs to mind.

The mindset the subscription has created is not a healthy one for the platform or for game creators, nobody else is rushing to emulate that.
 
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Puscifer

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GHG said:
What do you say of all the people who parrot "will wait for gamepass" or words to that effect? Game sales on the Xbox console platform reflect that attitude as well. So in summary, you've got a bunch of people who don't want to pay full price for the subscription and will do anything to circumvent that, and on top of that many of them refuse to even purchase games outside of gamepass. It might sound harsh, but when I look at all of that, "beggars" is the word that springs to mind.

The mindset the subscription has created is not a healthy one for the platform or for game creators, nobody else is rushing to emulate that.
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It's crazy people are laugh reacting your responses like this very board wasn't filled with free and dollar a month gamepass exploits. Some people here talk about they figured out how to pay for a dollar gamepass for years.
 
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Topher

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GHG said:
What do you say of all the people who parrot "will wait for gamepass" or words to that effect? Game sales on the Xbox console platform reflect that attitude as well. So in summary, you've got a bunch of people who don't want to pay full price for the subscription and will do anything to circumvent that, and on top of that many of them refuse to even purchase games outside of gamepass. It might sound harsh, but when I look at all of that, "beggars" is the word that springs to mind.

The mindset the subscription has created is not a healthy one for the platform or for game creators, nobody else is rushing to emulate that.
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I get everything you are saying.....but I still don't think "beggar" is the right word for it. I can see the argument that Game Pass has devalued the Xbox ecosystem though. I mean.....Microsoft is letting me have Game Pass in exchange for Rewards points so I feel zero need to spend a dime on anything in the Xbox ecosystem. If I'm going to buy a game it will be on PS or Steam. So yeah, I think a lot of folks in Xbox land are just conditioned to not buy.
 
poppabk

poppabk

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GHG said:
What do you say of all the people who parrot "will wait for gamepass" or words to that effect? Game sales on the Xbox console platform reflect that attitude as well. So in summary, you've got a bunch of people who don't want to pay full price for the subscription and will do anything to circumvent that, and on top of that many of them refuse to even purchase games outside of gamepass. It might sound harsh, but when I look at all of that, "beggars" is the word that springs to mind.

The mindset the subscription has created is not a healthy one for the platform or for game creators, nobody else is rushing to emulate that.
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Except pretty much everyone with a decent back catalog?
Ubisoft
EA
Rockstar
Sony
Nintendo
 
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GHG

GHG

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poppabk said:
Except pretty much everyone with a decent back catalog?
Ubisoft
EA
Rockstar
Sony
Nintendo
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False equivalence. None of those other companies (other than Ubisoft of late) struggle to sell their games. There are many reasons for that.

MMaRsu said:
Ah so people not paying full price for a product constitutes as beggars now. Lmao
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Glad to see you got the opportunity for a take two without the insult this time.

If people flat out refuse to pay for games that don't come to a service and then ask for those games to come to a service in order to get access to play them (all while refusing to pay full price for said service) then yes, that's how I'd define them.

Topher said:
I get everything you are saying.....but I still don't think "beggar" is the right word for it. I can see the argument that Game Pass has devalued the Xbox ecosystem though. I mean.....Microsoft is letting me have Game Pass in exchange for Rewards points so I feel zero need to spend a dime on anything in the Xbox ecosystem. If I'm going to buy a game it will be on PS or Steam. So yeah, I think a lot of folks in Xbox land are just conditioned to not buy.
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But that's the thing, everything they've done has just fostered a particular attitude and attracted a certain type of consumer (the one who doesn't want to spend any money). Now they are stuck with them.

To quote Phil Spencer recently - "they have a business to run", and so does everyone else in the industry. As a result of their financial results along with their actions it's become very apparent that theres no free lunch, all of this has come at a great cost.
 
MMaRsu

MMaRsu

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GHG said:
False equivalence. None of those other companies (other than Ubisoft of late) struggle to sell their games. There are many reasons for that.



Glad to see you got the opportunity for a take two without the insult this time.

If people flat out refuse to pay for games that don't come to a service and then ask for those games to come to a service in order to get access to play them (all while refusing to pay full price for said service) then yes, that's how I'd define them.



But that's the thing, everything they've done has just fostered a particular attitude and attracted a certain type of consumer (the one who doesn't want to spend any money). Now they are stuck with them.

To quote Phil Spencer recently - "they have a business to run", and so does everyone else in the industry. As a result of their financial results along with their actions it's become very apparent that theres no free lunch, all of this has come at a great cost.
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Calling people beggars because they are not willing to pay full price for a product is not an insult? Get real and off your high horse.
 
GHG

GHG

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MMaRsu said:
Calling people beggars because they are not willing to pay full price for a product is not an insult? Get real and off your high horse.
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Rich coming from you considering you're happy to pirate and openly admit it here.

It's not about a "high horse", I'm calling it as I see it.

What do you call someone who decides to pirate a game which happens to be on PC gamepass instead of just paying for the Steam version upon realising the Steam version is better?
 
MMaRsu

MMaRsu

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GHG said:
Rich coming from you considering you're happy to pirate and openly admit it here.

It's not about a "high horse", I'm calling it as I see it.

What do you call someone who decides to pirate a game which happens to be on PC gamepass instead of just paying for the Steam version upon realising the Steam version is better?
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I probably own more legit games than you but w/e

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And thats just my Steam library lmao
 
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GHG

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MMaRsu said:
I probably own more legit games than you but w/e

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Didn't think this through did you?

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Maybe next time you might want to remember bragging about your library doesn't allow you to be entitled and absolve you of pirating when the purchase button is right there.
 
MMaRsu

MMaRsu

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GHG said:
Didn't think this through did you?

IMG-20250310-013145-edit-850032780529954.jpg


Maybe next time you might want to remember bragging about your library doesn't allow you to be entitled and absolve you of pirating when the purchase button is right there.
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Well you have a nice library indeed, but I have plenty of legitimate purchased games. I won't get into it with you on the piracy debate because its not appreciated here.

Calling people who don't buy a product at full price a beggar is still an insult, and yes you should get off your high horse.

And same with calling people who use Gamepass beggars its just pathetic behaviour.
 
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I collect VHS tapes

I collect VHS tapes

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it isn't as appealing because PC gamers pay a fraction of the price console gamers do for games on average

I own Nintendo, Sony, and MS consoles. 99% of the time I can find games, especially titles that aren't brand new, for a fraction of the price on PC. I mean like 90% cheaper on websites like GoG
 
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rodrigolfp

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GHG said:
Didn't think this through did you?

IMG-20250310-013145-edit-850032780529954.jpg


Maybe next time you might want to remember bragging about your library doesn't allow you to be entitled and absolve you of pirating when the purchase button is right there.
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Did you pay full price for all those games and bought the most expensive version (premium, deluxe, etc....) of those that had it??? If no, you are a beggar too.
 
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