No Halo at launch. So buy a PS4 first. Wait for price-dropped Xbone and new Halo. And Sell PS4?
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EDGE: "Power struggle: the real differences between PS4 and Xbox One performance"
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No Halo at launch. So buy a PS4 first. Wait for price-dropped Xbone and new Halo. And Sell PS4?
This.
I still don't understand people who are "okay" with less than native resolution. I had a 1080p TV before Xbox360 launched. I went out and bought component cables for my PS2 so I could play GT4 at 1080i. After all the years in between, there is simply no excuse not to be able to render games at the native resolution of every TV sold in the last five years. I'm shocked that no one appears to have mandated 1080p for all titles by now.
Although I don't think we have confirmation of any PS4 titles running at lower resolutions, that I'm aware of anyway.
statham
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you've already made u your mind, stick with Microsoft. Every game console will release better version later. I can't imagine not playing a Halo game, and the next one sounds its going to be impressive and you have black tusks game that also launches next year that even cboat is impressed by it and don't forget Titanfall, and Destiny. Gears may also stay exclusive and you have D4, below, and Quatum Break and don't forget about Sunset Overdrive and Project Spack. I even think Minecraft will have exclusives things with how Microsoft is pushing it. We already know COD will have servers and DLC first..
Don't sweat it, just pick one or the other later in the generation. I was so happy when I picked up a ps3 late and had so many games to play. Personally, I'd pick up the ps4 since I think Microsoft is going to make moves before Sony as far as price drops and new packages.
Most of PS4's exclusives runs in Native 1080p, at least. Can't say the same for multiplats, because most developers will want both Xbox One & PS4 versions the same in terms of resolutions, etc.
I definitely agree with what you're saying, though. There's simply no excuse for games to be below 1080p anymore. We're no longer in the mid-2000 years in which both Xbox 360 & PS3 were released; We're in 2013, going into 2014 very soon.
Sword Of Doom
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Light Sabers!
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I disagree. I think resolution is one thing that they will be willing to have the largest differences in, and different resolutions will likely be the standard from launch.
Glorified G
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Hey! What's that mean! I learneded people some things they didn't know after all
It's not like I'm being cross posted in a 113 page thread dedicated to which (non curaçao based lol) sub 2tf console is more powerful than the other by relatively small amounts being the most active thread in an age where >4tf hardware was released years ago.
Lol sorry. My ears were burning.
(And I didn't post it as if it were some new revelation either obviously)
Sucks that you invested all that money in that hardware and very few care enough to talk about it. Even on GAF of all places. I feel for you man.
Don't let it get to you. Your PC does mean something
Especially since Xbox has hardware dynamic resolution support it will most likely have solid frame rates and very difficult to discern resolution adjustments that will make the games on both systems look and play very similarly... as we will soon found out
H_Prestige
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Light Sabers!
God that's sexy
I'd just love to see a letterboxed/windowboxed option for anything running sub-1080p. It'd make the game itself look better, add room for useful UI bits, and make it more obvious who's "cheating".
All that pent up anger, let it flow my friend.Hey! What's that mean! I learneded people some things they didn't know after all
It's not like I'm being cross posted in a 113 page thread dedicated to which (non curaçao based lol) sub 2tf console is more powerful than the other by relatively small amounts being the most active thread in an age where >4tf hardware was released years ago.
Lol sorry. My ears were burning.
(And I didn't post it as if it were some new revelation either obviously)
Rocking a 680 FTW here
Snark aside, on a forum like GAF you would expect that those of us who care so deeply about wanting the best possible experience for our multiplats that we would discuss it with this many thread pages for a 500gf difference and how everything should be 1080p and all that for pages upon pages would take as much time and energy to explore all of the possible ways of achieving these proclaimed goals. As enthusiats, these console wars threads really honestly confuse me.
There is nothing wrong, however, with the poster a couple posts above saying "I just want to play Halo! Help me GAF!" - Halo is an exclusive and a system seller. Same as Killzone. This "power difference" thread only has real merit when comparing these same multiplats.
Acrylic7
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Light Sabers!
I want that Sega coaster...
Glorified G
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Console gamers want the best possible experience for multiplats on consoles. I can go on and on and repeat why because I had this argument before but I'll just quote myself again
For some reason you have it in your head that because some console gamers think multiplats is important, they believe it's the only that is important. They care about other things too. Things that is only advantageous on a console. (See post above)
FINE! You got me. I'm on board with Light Bars now. Gonna get that camera now too.
Light Sabers!
Serious question. How do you use ~3GB of RAM for an Operating System? What are the end user benefits? Or can someone direct me to a thread that has already talked about that?
True. Wasnt luck though. A lot of help has been given to a lot of partners.
That should be the case, but I'm concerned about 3rd parties "playing it safe" in a somewhat nerfed middle ground for multiplatform titles.
...not overly extremely concerned, mind you.
Sword Of Doom
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The family share was just basically a 1hr demo for family members wasn't it? To this day when they remind people of their DRM fiasco all they keep saying is "but family share". People are not stupid if it really was a consumer friendly plan then they wouldn't have gotten the backlash they got. And nobody is forcing you to buy discs. If you want digital then by all means go digital. There is no reason for why MS can't bring family share back. As a matter of fact, sounds like a good idea. Provide incentives and people will move towards digital. Just don't force it down people's throats.
Perfect, provided you don't have any other issues with either company. Nice work.
googleplex
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I will be the first to admit that I ate tons of delicious crow on the PS4 ram. There was no way in hell I ever thought they'd manage 8gigs of GDDR5.
I was going to get it anyway (already preordered along with a 2nd controller), just to have the full potential of the controllers ready to go... but then I also saw this:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09...-playroom-is-everything-i-didnt-know-i-wanted
This gimmicky but very impressive little app just might push a lot of PSEYEs out the doors. Motion control might even... *gasp*... become an actual popular feature of the console.
(as all the MOVE controllers look on in dismay...)
TheExecutive
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Wow. I remember that thread. So funny.
CitizenCope
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Holy shit this is me. =( Have 80,000 gamer score, love Live their controllers and exclusives. I've owned every Sony console but never felt at home on them. Each Gen they were my back up console for a few exclusives.
I'm not going to play my multiplat games this gen on a system that seems to be weak in comparison. Also have just the Xbone pre ordered but I'm not going to be happy if their are significant differences in games like BF4 and AC4. Ugh!! I just want release day to get here so we can get more impressions on the differences if there are any.
Sword Of Doom
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People are so confident, yet so wrong in that thread.
Makes me wonder how much to believe in the confident claims within current threads regarding the future consoles.
Yeah, I ate crow for that thread in particular. Even though I don't remember ever commenting in that thread, but I do remember laughing at Crytek when they made that comment.
Sword Of Doom
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I owned a ps3 this entire generation and was going to switch to Xbox before I realized Sony got their shit together and MS fumbled the ball and trust me when I say it's no fun getting the shitty version of almost every multiplatform game. For those who buy both consoles it's a non issue but those of us who can buy only one it's very important.
Btw I totally agree that exclusives matter. Don't disagree with you there.
mysteriousmage09
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Neat.
Light Sabers!
Dynamic resolution can be really shitty. I recently played through BLOPS2 on PS3, which supports dynamic resolution swapping, and it can go from a fairly sharp image to blurry as all hell. It is okay at best, and downright jarringly bad in a lot of cases. In the case of BLOPS2 it maintained the low end resolution the majority of the time, and you only saw a sharp image in closed in environments with nothing going on. If that is the future of multiplatform XB1 games then no thanks.
HORRORSHØW
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Perfect for the Ninja Turtles.
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gundamkyoukai
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Nice to see GopherD weight in on the 8GB debate .
It's to be expected that Sony was in contact with ram makers to see how the chips were going along with trying to help them in some ways.
Plus the console was in the making for 3 plus years so you have to set a target but ram is something that can be change rather easy compare to other stuff .
It's to be expected that Sony was in contact with ram makers to see how the chips were going along with trying to help them in some ways.
Plus the console was in the making for 3 plus years so you have to set a target but ram is something that can be change rather easy compare to other stuff .
The strangest part is his implication that the discussion is over having the best multiplat experience period, when the discussion has largely been specifically about the hardware differences between the two new consoles and whether that will manifest as a difference in multiplats, and if so, how. I've not seen anyone suggest that multiplats will look best on consoles, and I doubt anyone participating in the discussion is so misguided as to earnestly believe so; plenty of folks have readily acknowledged that a top-end PC slaps anything else around. But then that's not the point of this discussion.
But ya know, always more fun to build a strawman punching bag than to actually participate in a real conversation.
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Hah, didn't even realize.
Curious~
Someone recently linked to an old RAM thread and I had the first post saying we'd be lucky to get 2Gb. I haven't stopped eating crow since.
Unknown One
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Same here. Not everybody can afford two consoles as well. Why buy another console to play the same games. I'm looking forward to not checking comparisons just to buy a game.
tensuke
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Most delicious crow I have ever eaten. Being wrong never felt better to be honest lol.
It's wonderful and satisfying.
Indeed. It is going to be nice knowing that you are getting the better version every single time, unless a developer really screws something up.
bigboss370
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GameCube and PS3 have been my primary consoles for the past couple gens. You have no idea how excited I am about not getting the shaft with multiplats.
Saberus
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Actually, its 2~2.5 for the PS4 OS.. the .5 is flexible. If I'm incorrect?.. I'm sure it will be pointed out.
Dunno what Sony's doing with the PS4, but for the Xbone I'd imagine a lot of the 3GB is just reserved as a pool for multitasking. Since apparently four apps can be run in the background, part of that reserve is probably keeping some worst case scenario in mind where a user loads up all the most memory-hogging apps he can at once, just to make sure such a situation doesn't end up crashing the system.
Sword Of Doom
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I hope it's at least 6gb for games on the ps4. I really don't care about anything non game related in the OS.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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lmao, keep on hopping.
Hell, thuway and IIRC some other insiders have said there's 6GB for games atm.
Kinda expecting the number to expand a bit for both systems down the line with OS optimizations, and maybe some future-proofing reserves opened up if they don't end up needing 'em.
Nobody suggested fairies waved wands and buddy jesus descended from the heavens with a horseshoe up his ass of course. But it wasn't the original plan. It was a collation of various factors that basically needed to happen when they did. And if they didn't, they'd be stuck with less. I called it "luck", you can call it "pushing partners to deliver" but it wasn't a foregone conclusion either obviously. As the documentation suggested.
Finalizer said:
I've counted dozens of mentions of "why can't everything be 1080p? that's next gen!" and of course not everything is going to be 1080p, in and out of the launch window. The nature of consoles is compromise. That's not a negative thing, of course. As Glorified said, you trade some things for others when you game on one gaming box instead of another. But if everyone cared so vehemently about such things there is a way to achieve such things.
SwiftDeath
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Your agenda is so obvious to all those who waste time reading your posts in these threads
I honestly don't understand your reasoning for such posts
It clearly adds nothing to the current conversation
Do you not see that?