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Asteroid may impact Earth in 2032

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
2022 YR4 asteroid. NASA just upgraded the probability to 1.9% from 1.6% yesterday.




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It’s 40-90 meters in diameter. So would be like a large yield thermonuclear bomb going off where it hits in terms of energy.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
It’s 40-90 meters in diameter. So would be like a large yield thermonuclear bomb going off where it hits in terms of energy.

Not a planet killer, but it would cause a lot of damage and loss of human life depending where it hits.

Hopefully as we learn more the chances of it hitting will go down. If not, then the world is going to need to come up with a few plans to change its trajectory and avoid disaster.

 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
yey more doom

I literally don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

Should be fine but we need to be prepared to push this fucker out the way.

When will we be able to predict where it will hit?
 

Hookshot

Member
Hitting the Northern or Southern hemisphere? The south is mainly water so it would just be a big splash. The north has my house so not here please.
 
Pretty obvious how this one ends up, probability keeps ticking up until they have to admit that yes it's going to hit Earth.

Then Elon steps in with a Starship fleet to push that piece of shit out of the way, potentially saving millions. Meanwhile shitheads on here post about how he didn't engineer every feature of Starship and really had nothing to do with anything and that Twitter is going to go under any second now but this time for real because Elon's not very smart. Haha.
Elon Musk Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
2032 you say? Guess these guys can edit and rollout these images again, these folks were just ahead of their time. Their candidate's time is coming.

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In all seriousness though, if it's Tunguska sized indeed, at least it's a very survivable situation and not an extinction level event. It will be a big problem for whatever local area it impacts, if it were to, though obviously.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Its an interesting thought experiment..what if we KNEW (like >90% certainty) it was gonna hit, just the precise location was in question? Probably have a sense of the belt around the earth at risk, but wouldn't know where until just a few days out, maybe less.

Would it trigger a world war ahead of time? If China thought they were gonna take it right in a major population center, would they pre-emptively attack so no one else could exploit their weakness? What about the US, India, Russia? Would it be mass panic and flight out of any projected impact path, even if its thousands of miles long and any specific place has a low risk, or do folks just wait until mere hours to flee a specific place? How far away would you need to go?

I doubt this thing could create waves across the planet, but certainly if it hit near a coast that area would be fucked.

Or if there was 'just' a 20% risk of impact, but if you hit it with nukes then there would be a 90% chance of smaller, but potentially multiple, impacts. Which is better or worse?
 

Hookshot

Member
This is a great video simulating the impacts of different size asteroids:



This asteroid is supposed to be a max 90m, so skip to 2:00 if you want to see a simulation of what that would look like if it struck a major city.

The one hitting Paris destroyed London. Thankful this size doesn’t affect as much
 

ÆMNE22A!C

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
The WEF Oligarchs must be rubbing thier hands. Doesn't NASA do those shows with wires or am I mistaken?
Either way let's pray it misses (or rely on ahem , more drastic measures)
 

Biff

Member
In case anyone had the same question as me regarding why there is any probability at all (i.e. isn't space a vacuum with known positions and trajectories?), here is a solid/clear answer from ChatGPT to explain:

While space is largely a vacuum and the laws governing motion are well understood, predicting an asteroid's path over many years involves many uncertainties and complexities that prevent us from stating with 100% certainty whether it will hit Earth. Here are the key reasons:

  1. Measurement Uncertainty in Initial Conditions:
    • Observation Limitations: We determine an asteroid's current position, velocity, and other properties through telescopic observations and radar measurements. These measurements, however, have inherent uncertainties due to limitations in instrument precision, observational conditions, and the finite number of observations.
    • Error Propagation: Even a tiny error in knowing an asteroid's initial state can grow over time. When projecting an orbit many years into the future, these small errors can lead to significant uncertainties in its predicted path.
  2. Chaotic Dynamics:
    • Sensitivity to Initial Conditions: Many asteroid orbits are chaotic, meaning that small differences in the starting conditions can result in vastly different trajectories over long periods. This sensitivity makes it difficult to predict the exact path of an asteroid years or decades into the future.
    • Nonlinear Gravitational Interactions: As asteroids move through the solar system, they experience gravitational pulls from planets and other bodies. These interactions can alter the asteroid's path in ways that are sensitive to initial conditions, contributing to the overall uncertainty.
  3. Perturbative Forces:
    • Yarkovsky Effect: This is a small force acting on rotating bodies due to the way they absorb sunlight and re-emit it as heat. Over time, the cumulative effect of the Yarkovsky force can alter an asteroid’s orbit. Predicting this effect accurately requires detailed knowledge of the asteroid's size, shape, composition, rotation, and surface properties.
    • Other Minor Forces: Although space is a vacuum, forces such as solar radiation pressure and gravitational influences from other minor bodies (or even outgassing in some cases) can slightly modify an asteroid's trajectory over time.
  4. Modeling Limitations:
    • Complex Orbital Dynamics: The models used to predict asteroid trajectories incorporate numerous factors (gravitational forces, non-gravitational effects, etc.). While these models are highly sophisticated, they cannot perfectly account for every variable, especially over long time spans.
    • Computational Challenges: Simulating an asteroid's orbit with all potential influences over decades involves complex numerical methods, and slight approximations or assumptions in these simulations can introduce uncertainty.
Because of these factors, when scientists say there is, for example, a 1.9% chance of impact in 2032, they are reflecting the accumulated uncertainty from all these sources. The probability doesn’t imply randomness in a classical sense but rather expresses our level of confidence based on the limitations of our current observations and models.

In summary, even though the basic physics is deterministic, our imperfect knowledge of the exact conditions and the complex, sensitive dynamics of orbital motion mean that long-term predictions carry inherent uncertainties, leading to a probabilistic rather than an absolute forecast.
 

ÆMNE22A!C

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Who cares. We'll be on Mars by then!

Perhaps take a look at what Mars stands for and hence maybe don't take occupy Mars literally.

*Scratches head; what happened to our Moon. Sure losing the technology can happen. I spill my coffee, I can relate.

Why skip our Moon.

And hey isn't "occupy" at tad... presumptuous and claiming?

Maybe focus on your death trap Tesla's first I suppose?

Just a thought
 
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