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Avowed art director calls Elon Musk a "sad little shit" over Avowed gender pronoun complaints, indicates more of the same in final product
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Default what? It’s the art director, not the “director”.
Let me know when this thing you think is going to happen, happens.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Same here, I don't like Elon either because of other reasons.
But in this case he's definitely right and you could always tell the ones who support the sick twisted fucked up woke shits when they only attack Elon here instead of the lunatic psychopath dev he's trashing.
RedC
Member
As an African-American myself, it likely started with us first however I'd like to think we had legitimate reasons given the significant contributions to American culture that have and continue to impact and influence the globe. Unfortunately, over time I think this trickled down to other groups of people asking what about us?
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
It is!
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Hey, I agree with you man. As I said earlier I know it's a lot to take away from just some pronouns on a character menu screen.
Also I know you care about the IP and liked the PoE games and I hope the game is fun for you and the rest of the fanbase.
But fuck, my "pattern recognition" sense is tingling and, if I had to bet, I'd say this game has more chances to have shit writting than anything else. And for this kind of game that can be a deal breaker.
But again, hope I'm wrong.
True but a rational person just doesn't buy it and moves on to something that does interest them.
Much of the anti woke crowd is becoming as extreme as Sarkeesian and her gang were in the 2010s.
Meanwhile I on the hand support creative freedom. Elon started it so I don't blame this dev for clapping back. Doesn't he have a new government agency to prepare for anyway?
LectureMaster
Gold Member
lmao, always find a way to spin huh? I don't anticipate anything to happen. If a game fails, it's on its own. Don't sound like "oh someone want this game to fail". The only times I saw people wanting a game to fail were Hogwarts and Stellar Blade, guess what?
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
My guess would be your pronoun defaults to they/them.
In fact I'd bet good money on it!
Jinxed
Member
Except the chuds are just normal gamers. But that's okay, we'll keep on playing Stellar Blade and black myth wukong while their games fail miserably
MiguelItUp
Member
It's a topic I've never really understood myself. As a Spaniard, I remember seeing Vega for the first time in SFII and thinking it was neat. Or playing Resident Evil 4 and thinking a whole lot of that was neat. But, I never felt slighted, or like I needed more of it. I don't think the majority do. I'm just not a fan when things feel forced rather than feeling genuine.
To be fair, SBI didn't "make" anything. They're a consultation studio that Rocksteady decided to hire. Which was the least of that game's problems, lmao. Definitely didn't help anything though.
I see what you mean. I just don't know if this is the best example IMO. I guess it was around a time where Obsidian made some bad decisions and they were just trying to "control" the negativity. I guess they're just not good at "reading the room" but I know a lot of companies aren't. It's like they're still trying to hit a social media quota when they should probably lay low a bit, lol.
In the end, more studios need to be better about social media rules. It feels really bizarre to me to "love your job" or "love your project" but then do something that is surely going to put you/the company/the brand/or the project in someone's crosshairs.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Maybe it's time to become a little bit extreme tho.
I mean, man I love videogames, and seeing them being used to push modern political shit is sickening to me. Between the political agendas, the censorship, blue-haired localizers doing whatever the fuck they want to do and diversity hires that aren't even capable of making the game run decently... it's too much, they are ruinning the medium and if we don't complain online or at least vote with our wallets, then what? No more fun videogames? Fuck that.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Just looked at the guy's name to see his previous works. He worked a lot on Pillars of Eternity
www.matthansenart.com
He can cook at least.
Matt Hansen Art - It's for your eyebits!
www.matthansenart.com
He can cook at least.
Crayon
Member
From this guys perspective, everyone who doesn't agree is a chud.
proandrad
Member
No you don’t have to be extreme, you just vote with your wallet.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah he sure is better art director than PR lmao.
Just kidding, the art is super neat. Must be complicated to come up with original fantasy stuff when there's so much of it already.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
This is about Avowed, and as I said, as a rational and emotionally mature person, I don’t consider pronouns on a character screen to be “woke virus” as you put it. Please let me know if you need any more help.
I can only assume by your continued refusal to answer, that SBI isn’t involved with Avowed.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
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LectureMaster
Gold Member
I honestly don't mind studio employees say whatever stupid shits they personally would like. The problem is that it shows a trend that their dumbness are more often than not is aligned and represented in designs and writings of their games. It's more of a studio culture/environment thing rather than people being big mouse on social media.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I mean yeah this particular guy has worked on some really good games.Just looked at the guy's name to see his previous works. He worked a lot on Pillars of Eternity
Matt Hansen Art - It's for your eyebits!
He can cook at least.
Which is a hopeful sign, as I personally couldn't care less if the game has pronouns or not. I'll probably make a female character and select "she/her" or whatever and move on with my day.
Still think it's dumb to go talking shit on not-twitter. I really just hate all the negativity online in general. I'm also a progressive who hates how many people are conducting themselves online, they aren't helping anything.. and they come across as virtue signalers, not people actually trying to enact positive change.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Oh for sure
Like I said, mind boggling in today's world that peoples attach their company name on their bio and go poke the beehive.
I could lose my job if I did something similar with the company I work for.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Haha yeah, I'm not going to set any fires nor anything like that.
But I think it's nice to have threads and conversations like this in a public place like this forum. Being vocal about it instead of just ignoring the issue is a nice first step towards the right direction, imo.
Freelance Yakuza
Member
RedC
Member
This will always be the best method within a capitalist system.
Bernardougf
Member
I agree but than again if nobody says anything pretty soon there are no more "something that does interest them".. in fact we are where we are because we accepted this things fo too long ... the woke side has been screaming and canceling and fighting on social media for what feels like a decade now and just real recently the blow back has started and "anti-woke" aka normal people has been pushing back ... so things are going to get worst before it gets better.
Kacho
Gold Member
Trilobit
Member
Trigger warnings are used for people who get severe anxiety or panic attacks from certain stuff. I don't think anyone reacts like that to woke stuff. It's more like people telling each other what stuff has dog shit in them so you can avoid that unpleasant smell.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Like I have said in many of these threads, two sides of the same coin.
edit, wow that list of SBI games is insane. I forgot they worked on GoWR and SM2. Basically every game on that list is trash. It can’t be a coincidence.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's odd, because you did consider pronouns as "woke" when you were talking about Concord, which also didn't have Sweet Baby Inc.
Why the change in opinion now?
MiguelItUp
Member
I don't understand why any studio would encourage that kind of behavior. It's gross.
Exactly. A lot of things have felt extreme enough IMO. I've always felt if a game isn't made made with true passion and ingenuity, it's likely going to fail regardless of a lot of the hot topics that are going around these days. It's like they always get caught with egg on their face and the game tanks.
Bernardougf
Member
Is a tactic as old as time ... loved by leftwingers and affiliated ... if you cant beat them, try to make everyone think they are as bad as you.
You have some purple and fake-neutral here already doind this.
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DeltaPolarBear
Member
No, it isn't about a safe space, it is about not wasting money. Imagine if all the food in a supermarket are not labelled so you have no idea what you are buying. You want to know what is on offer so you can decide if you want to pay for it or not. The entire point that consumers have the right to NOT BUY, but calling it a safe space, is skipping the point.
You can make Wake products if you want. You just can't force us to buy it.
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AmuroChan
Member
I think most people don't really care if someone has woke ideology. What most people have problems with is the forced compliance and the elitist attitude with which they speak down to the rest of the populace. Personally, I don't care if someone wants to be woke. Go knock yourself out, but don't shove it in my face and call me a bigot if I don't agree with you. And worse yet, when they try to indoctrinate other people's kids with this shit, parents are not going to stand for that.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Also, I'm sorry that you won't be able to play South of Midnight as SBI is involved with that game as well.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I was going to try this game out, but not sure anymore, this guy is basically admitting to instead of just making a good game, he purposefully engineered it to get a reaction out of someone/others; fuck that noise.
The entire studio must be okay with it as well, since he felt it like it was okay to broadcast that to the world, and him being in a senior position.
The entire studio must be okay with it as well, since he felt it like it was okay to broadcast that to the world, and him being in a senior position.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Typical low-effort gaslighting. I don't see a single person here advocating that we need to have a list of woke games to boycott.
The only times I saw people deliberately wanting a game to fail were Hogwarts and Stellar Blade. And those people were over the purple place.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
That's odd, because you did consider pronouns as "woke" when you were talking about Concord, which also didn't have Sweet Baby Inc.
Why the change in opinion now?
The post you are quoting literally says I don’t consider those things an issue, felt cringy typing it, and put it in quotations because of that.
I can see now why you get confused a lot.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Also, I'm sorry that you won't be able to play South of Midnight as SBI is involved with that game as well.
That’s literally the game I was quoted saying I won’t be buying but will play on GamePass because SBI is involved.
Another swing and a miss.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Agreed, definitely ain't helping and is just making things worse for them as time goes by. Also got a feeling that most of the folks pushing the nasty woke stuff are probably straight folks which makes the situation even more weird. As it's causing more people to dislike the people they are trying to white knight and defend.
Yep and it's usually the crazy woke lunatics that needs those warnings where as the sane side never need it nor do they want to see a warning like that for the games and shows they watch.
Rather he buys it and makes a brand new Fallout game.
So much this!
It would be nowhere as bad nor that hated if they simply keep the crazy shits to themselves like most of the other crazy sick stuff around the world.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
No, that's not what it says. Someone asks why Concord is woke. And you clearly said because of character designs and pronouns.
So you clearly consider pronouns woke - at least if it is a Sony game and not an Xbox game.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Honestly not sure you are paying enough attention then. There's posts in this very thread hoping this game fails lol
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Bumblebeetuna
Member
And then I said I don’t agree with that and put it in quotations because it was the way others felt.
Might want to change your tag to Tin Journalism.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Many people were saying they are not buying/playing it, I don't see posts straight wishing it to bomb. That's two different things.