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Bloomberg: PS5 Will Launch In 2020 In "Limited Supply", Cost $500 Or More
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Not making the mistake I made with the PS4. Paid the £350 for it at release, 8 months later you could get it for £300 with both Destiny and TLoU Remastered included in the box. Destiny was the first game I even bought for it and I had to wipe the dust off the thing. Definitely waiting until the first new hardware revision before I cop, this time around. Not even going to bother getting one to resell on ebay as too many Paypal “item not as described” scammers nowadays to make selling high prices items too risky. Those days are over.
JLB
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I'd say that the 7 year long generation is a thing of the past. PS6 and XSX 2 will be here in 2024/2025 at most. And with a mid gen on 2022.
The Point is, that your over estimating the significance of the 18% GPU gap between the PS5 and XSX when it comes to actual Games.
DeepEnigma
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Aion002
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MS builds 100 million units and start giving out consoles for subscriptions on Xcloud and Game Pass, everybody joins the xbox side and Sony enters in panic mode, their main game makers quit their jobs and join MS studios, former ND developers announces Undiscovered and The Rest of Us only on Series X and Windows Store, while Kojima gets ready to start making a Metal Gear Reboot for MS (yes! MS bought every single Konami IP).
Year 1: Sony sells 500k units of PS5 on the first year, the launch price is 800 USD, while MS is dominating everything, you can get a Series X in a Big Mac promo, Sony board decides to sell their game division, MS buys everything... minus Knack and Astro Bot, both goes to Nintendo, that make critically acclaimed games with the IP's.
Year 2: Mario have a Knack, wins the GOTY, Xbox is the biggest brand post 2000, Sony fills for bankruptcy, Marvel finally gets all their movies rights back.
Year 3: MS buys Nintendo. MS Remakes all PS games on Xbox, The Last of Us, God of War and Uncharted wins all the prizes again, because now they are better on Xbox. Everybody plays Xbox.
Year 4: MS buys Steam, PC's now are called Xbox.
Year 5: MS announces a new generation, Xbox flagships are Gods of Wars Infinite, Halo Infinite 2, Forza Infinite, Mario Infinite, Zelda Infinite and the most antecipated sequel of the generation: The Last of Us: Reboot: Infinite.... they are all Games as Services.
This is probably the wet dream of some.... I am sorry. I am kinda bored.
Year 1: Sony sells 500k units of PS5 on the first year, the launch price is 800 USD, while MS is dominating everything, you can get a Series X in a Big Mac promo, Sony board decides to sell their game division, MS buys everything... minus Knack and Astro Bot, both goes to Nintendo, that make critically acclaimed games with the IP's.
Year 2: Mario have a Knack, wins the GOTY, Xbox is the biggest brand post 2000, Sony fills for bankruptcy, Marvel finally gets all their movies rights back.
Year 3: MS buys Nintendo. MS Remakes all PS games on Xbox, The Last of Us, God of War and Uncharted wins all the prizes again, because now they are better on Xbox. Everybody plays Xbox.
Year 4: MS buys Steam, PC's now are called Xbox.
Year 5: MS announces a new generation, Xbox flagships are Gods of Wars Infinite, Halo Infinite 2, Forza Infinite, Mario Infinite, Zelda Infinite and the most antecipated sequel of the generation: The Last of Us: Reboot: Infinite.... they are all Games as Services.
This is probably the wet dream of some.... I am sorry. I am kinda bored.
But really, the doom and gloom for Sony is back at full force.... I remember reading similar things everywhere near the PS3 launch, some journalists and gamers are really wishing and hoping that this time Sony will fail hard.
Sony does not want to release TLU 2 because of constraints, yet they will enter a new gen with much more against the PS5? According to this article Sony has limited units being made and the same price against a stronger competitor.
If this is true and Sony releases the PS5 under this condition, well, time to change the people in charge, because they're dumb as fuck.
They aren’t going to do a repeat of the PS3 launch.MS builds 100 million units and start giving out consoles for subscriptions on Xcloud and Game Pass, everybody joins the xbox side and Sony enters in panic mode, their main game makers quit their jobs and join MS studios, former ND developers announces Undiscovered and The Rest of Us only on Series X and Windows Store, while Kojima gets ready to start making a Metal Gear Reboot for MS (yes! MS bought every single Konami IP).
Year 1: Sony sells 500k units of PS5 on the first year, the launch price is 800 USD, while MS is dominating everything, you can get a Series X in a Big Mac promo, Sony board decides to sell their game division, MS buys everything... minus Knack and Astro Bot, both goes to Nintendo, that make critically acclaimed games with the IP's.
Year 2: Mario have a Knack, wins the GOTY, Xbox is the biggest brand post 2000, Sony fills for bankruptcy, Marvel finally gets all their movies rights back.
Year 3: MS buys Nintendo. MS Remakes all PS games on Xbox, The Last of Us, God of War and Uncharted wins all the prizes again, because now they are better on Xbox. Everybody plays Xbox.
Year 4: MS buys Steam, PC's now are called Xbox.
Year 5: MS announces a new generation, Xbox flagships are Gods of Wars Infinite, Halo Infinite 2, Forza Infinite, Mario Infinite, Zelda Infinite and the most antecipated sequel of the generation: The Last of Us: Reboot: Infinite.... they are all Games as Services.
This is probably the wet dream of some.... I am sorry. I am kinda bored.
But really, the doom and gloom for Sony is back at full force.... I remember reading similar things everywhere near the PS3 launch, some journalists and gamers are really wishing and hoping that this time Sony will fail hard.
Sony does not want to release TLU 2 because of constraints, yet they will enter a new gen with much more against the PS5? According to this article Sony has limited units being made and the same price against a stronger competitor.
If this is true and Sony releases the PS5 under this condition, well, time to change the people in charge, because they're dumb as fuck.
CatLady
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Cybepunk 2077 makes sense. The way it displayed reminded me of something but I couldn't place it. It's the same type of thing when Cyberpunk popped up on the screen at the end of the Xbox E3 conference a few years ago. We need to check it out in 4 days, could be something exciting.
Aion002
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Yeah, I think that too.
DrAspirino
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With Jim "goonie" Ryan on the helm? I wouldn't be so sure about it.
Texas Pride
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Maybe that was the plan before Covid-19 but in a post Covid-19 world they aren't selling at 500-550. The economic strife worldwide has made that choice for them imo.
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Stiflers Mom
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Yep, and it only turned around with the slim at 299 bucks.
Gamernyc78
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To add context to this, the PS3 at launch didn't sell bad at all. It was hundreds more at launch and still outsold Xbox 360 world wide buttttt Sony was losing too much on each console bcus the BOM was high. The turn around came not because it started selling more necessarily but because Sony at tht point weren't selling at a major loss anymore.
If anything PS3 showed there is still a market for 500 console shit ps3 cost more. Sony just can't sustain major losses and even thts up for debate as now thy gave psn ps plus bringing major revenue which thy didn't have during ps3 days.
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THE DUCK
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That's a scary thought, 50/50 the store is still thereby the time it launches......
Best bet would be to sell your console now and put the cash aside.....
Gamernyc78
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I'm day one as usual. I had enough fun with Drive club, Second Son and Killzone initially also the f2p ganes it offered . I double dipped on tlou remastered abd played the shit out of the mp
My wait tactic will be on Xbox, if I even buy an Xbox as I waited to get one down the line this gen and still regretted it bcus it gets no use 
I need to stop spending money in things I won't use.
Agnostic2020
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The author of the article is mad at people for misquoting him for things he hasn't said about sony being in trouble etc...:
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Dontero
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I'm day one as usual. I had enough fun with Drive club, Second Son and Killzone initially also the f2p ganes it offered . I double dipped on tlou remastered abd played the shit out of the mp
Yeah i liked second son but killzone was boring af. Driveclub was my hate/love relationship. I fucking loved Motorstorm 1 kind of liked 2 and didn't like much 3rd and then they switched to real cars and i loved graphics but racing just wasn't that fun. It was nice driving game but poor racing game.
Aside from that there wasn't really anything to play. I just don't like most of modern AAA games and it tend to focus on smaller games on PC like CK2, Starsector, Factorio which were not present on console at all and are ton of fun. So i sold my PS4. Then BB came and i kind of wanted it back but i wouldn't buy console for one game so i waited. Then MHW came out and 2 games was enough. Bought ps4 finished BB. MHW, MGS5, Persona5 and Nier and i sold it again.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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Please. Give me 2000 and I'll buy one for everyone in this thread.
Self High Five
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DOA, plus weak ass specs...MS will take advantage with $399 price tag, goot times
So the other console only containing 18% more powerful GPU, 8% faster CPU, same amount of ram a significantly slower SSD (100%+ disadvantage) is what?
semi-weak ass specs?
Piku_Ringo
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shhhhhhhhhhh. let him shill
Nothing will beat the crazy duo ken and kaz
New Yorks Finest
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Don't have to even break a sweat dum-dum...day one both, ever since 360/ps3 collabo.
Yoboman
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Isn't Jim "goonie" Ryan the only reason PS3 caught up and surpassed 360 thanks to Europe?
DouglasQuade
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This will be the first time I won't be a "day 1" buyer. $500 (If that's actually true) & the cost of a 2+ TB internal or external SSD... Not to mention an extra controller, games, etc. Forget that!
Most I've ever spent was the PS3 when it first came out and that was only because online gaming was fairly new in the console world.
Most I've ever spent was the PS3 when it first came out and that was only because online gaming was fairly new in the console world.
You mean the Sony studios who produced great games and the ice team who fixed lots of the development issues. Ryan inherited a perfect situation from House and crew. Still waiting for him to do anything right that was not in the works before he in charge. The things he over sees like the cerny talk are a disaster but he lucky what those before him built is so strong he can't screw it up with his incompetence.
Piku_Ringo
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wordslaughter
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The price during the release window doesn't matter. They could price it at $999 at they would still sell out easily.
New Yorks Finest
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It doesn't matter if you buy one or both, meng!
So @#%% is you talking about then?
Go get some Quaker Oatmeal in the kitchen and watch Power or somethin..or clean your open toe sandals..dont sit around GAF, be productive.
Piku_Ringo
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Too much projection there, meng. Don't worry, I don't care if you eat your cereal or whatever with a fork.
joe_zazen
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even better:
2020-2025–MS uses predatory pricing, desktop gaming OS dominance, and patent law to drive all competitors out of business, including Nintendo, Stadia, Steam, Epic Store, etc. Uses same power to ensure no competitors can ever arise.
2025-????—anyone wanting to make, play, or release non mobile video games has to pay microsoft money.
MS builds 100 million units and start giving out consoles for subscriptions on Xcloud and Game Pass, everybody joins the xbox side and Sony enters in panic mode, their main game makers quit their jobs and join MS studios, former ND developers announces Undiscovered and The Rest of Us only on Series X and Windows Store, while Kojima gets ready to start making a Metal Gear Reboot for MS (yes! MS bought every single Konami IP).
Year 1: Sony sells 500k units of PS5 on the first year, the launch price is 800 USD, while MS is dominating everything, you can get a Series X in a Big Mac promo, Sony board decides to sell their game division, MS buys everything... minus Knack and Astro Bot, both goes to Nintendo, that make critically acclaimed games with the IP's.
Year 2: Mario have a Knack, wins the GOTY, Xbox is the biggest brand post 2000, Sony fills for bankruptcy, Marvel finally gets all their movies rights back.
Year 3: MS buys Nintendo. MS Remakes all PS games on Xbox, The Last of Us, God of War and Uncharted wins all the prizes again, because now they are better on Xbox. Everybody plays Xbox.
Year 4: MS buys Steam, PC's now are called Xbox.
Year 5: MS announces a new generation, Xbox flagships are Gods of Wars Infinite, Halo Infinite 2, Forza Infinite, Mario Infinite, Zelda Infinite and the most antecipated sequel of the generation: The Last of Us: Reboot: Infinite.... they are all Games as Services.
This is probably the wet dream of some.... I am sorry. I am kinda bored.
But really, the doom and gloom for Sony is back at full force.... I remember reading similar things everywhere near the PS3 launch, some journalists and gamers are really wishing and hoping that this time Sony will fail hard.
Sony does not want to release TLU 2 because of constraints, yet they will enter a new gen with much more against the PS5? According to this article Sony has limited units being made and the same price against a stronger competitor.
If this is true and Sony releases the PS5 under this condition, well, time to change the people in charge, because they're dumb as fuck.
even better:
2020-2025–MS uses predatory pricing, desktop gaming OS dominance, and patent law to drive all competitors out of business, including Nintendo, Stadia, Steam, Epic Store, etc. Uses same power to ensure no competitors can ever arise.
2025-????—anyone wanting to make, play, or release non mobile video games has to pay microsoft money.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Doubtful. Brand loyalty is a thing. And Sony has a huge base of loyal players.
FranXico
Member
I guess they'll only learn the true cost of supporting a giant monopolist corporation when it's too late.
Oh well, the harm on far more important things has been done long ago...
joe_zazen
Member
Part of the problem with the great depression wasn’t just unemployment (2/3 households did just fine), it was the fear that made most everyone cut way back spending on most discretionary items. Sure, if things were cheap enough, like movie tickets, people would still buy. But major purchases were cut way the fuck back, even by people who weren’t economically affected.
idk if covid will lead to great depression style household spending, but if it does, here in Canada at least, a $750-$850 ($500-$600USD) console with $80 games is going to fail. Even a $550 ($399 USD) console will be a hard sell.
Sans covid, I think those prices would have worked out for Sony just fine. As it is, I believe many will make do with ps4 and/or Switch; or look seriously at Lockhart. Switch is $260 and $399 here. Assuming Lockhart is similar, yeah, $700-800 ps5 is going to crash and burn.
But hey, maybe post covid things will be back to normal in a few weeks, with just higher taxes and bugger deficiets.