DavidGzz
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Colin Moriarty: Bloodborne Remaster and Bloodborne 2 in Development for PS5 by Bluepoint
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No undead horse with devil horns and a triple jump, no buy.
The Fartist
Gold Member
The guy created the #1 PlayStation podcast in the world, think he has the #1 video game-centric Patreon too, he's been on Rogan's Podcast twice. I don't think he has to spread rumors to make a name for himself.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Bluepoint specializes in remasters and ports.
Will be interesting how good Bloodborne 2 is with them at the helm.
Will be interesting how good Bloodborne 2 is with them at the helm.
coffinbirth
Member
So.... are we just gonna pretend this guy wasn't blacklisted by Sony like three years ago and he hasn't accurately predicted a single game release that wasn't already in development prior to said blacklisting?
Mmmmmmmkaaaaaaay
Mmmmmmmkaaaaaaay
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
i think bluepoint can try to remake bloodborne and develop an extra DLC for bloodborne as testing phase.
SNPlayen
Member
He confirmed Demons Souls remake, anyway blacklisting from Sony isn’t going to change anything. Do you think “leakers” walk into Sony headquarters and walk out with a list of leaks?
coffinbirth
Member
Perhaps read my post again...and think about the rest of what you said. lol.
KWAB
Banned
I said I don't know him that well not that I don't know him at all. I had the displeasure to watch a little bit of Kinda Funny Games in 2016 when Colin was still there and I thought they all sucked.
Yeah but did he really? Here's Colin in September 2019 so basically a year before release wondering what happened to Demon's Souls remake for PS4
Rumor: Demon's Souls Remaster in the Works for PS4
Rumors of a possible Demon's Souls remaster surface yet again after Colin Moriarty hints as much in the latest episode of his Sacred Symbols podcast.
gamerant.com
SNPlayen
Member
Sorry I have the Wuhan Kiss, I didn’t read properly
Javthusiast
Banned
Yes but those are their own unique souls clones. Bluepoint making Bloodborne 2 means they will have to replicate From Softs Bloodborne 1 style which is a lot harder to nail.
skneogaf
Member
Played a couple of hours of bloodborne last night, first time in at least 6 months and the first time on my 83"oled.
I was feeling eye strain and nauseated from the 29 fps.
I really enjoyed it and its definitely worth any negative feelings from it but damn I pray for a 4k 60fps with hdr version.
A man can dream!
I was feeling eye strain and nauseated from the 29 fps.
I really enjoyed it and its definitely worth any negative feelings from it but damn I pray for a 4k 60fps with hdr version.
A man can dream!
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Captain Toad
Banned
Plenty of franchises do very well, long after the initial developers are gone. Not every studio is 343.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Hope so, they did a great job with the remake and there's no reason why Souls and Bloodborne cant become their own franchises.
schaft0620
Member
He has the #1 gaming podcast and Patreon.
He is the only reliable Sony leaker that I know of. He has leaked a few things including Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart a full year plus in advance.
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DavidGzz
Gold Member
343 has done much more than Blue Point. 343 has an average of 80 on Metacritic on games they actually created from the ground up. I wouldn't be confident in the best studio out there attempting Bloodborne 2 let alone a dev who has only done remakes. It's pretty easy to see why we are skeptical and I don't see how it can be refuted at this time.
Shmunter
Member
Give it to Playground Games imho
yurinka
Member
As I remember some time ago Miyazaki said he'd like so see Bloodborne 2 even if made by someone else because back then he was too busy with other stuff. He also said to be very impressed by Bluepoint's job with the Demon's Souls remake.
So I'd bet that if Sony approached to make BB2 them but FromSoft was too busy, the option of codevelop it with Bluepoint in the sense that FS would do the high game concept, concept art, high level lore & world building and define a few main new mechanics, while Bluepoint would handle the big volume of the 'dirty work' to implement everything is something highly possible.
I think that even if Bluepoint handles most of the development, Sony still can work with FromSoft to define all the important things in terms of design, art style and character design to make sure it feels like Bloodborne 2.
With the restructuring Japan Studio changed its management and was split in two:
-All their 1st party internal development teams were merged into one of these teams: Team Asobi.
-Their 2nd party publishing part (who worked with Bloodborne, Demon's Souls, Death Stranding etc) branched off to be the the Asian branch of their global XDEV 2nd party publishing team and no longer report to a local Sony gamedev team, as happened years before with their 2nd party publishing teams at USA and EU.
So they continue doing the same as before but as separate teams. After the restructuring both teams are growing. After restructuring and branching off their XDEV Japanese team published Death Stranding Director's Cut.
Who knows, maybe the 'original content' being made at Bluepoint is a Demon's Souls DLC instead of a Bloodborne DLC or sequel.
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Lognor
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But all the talent is gone. This is not the Japan Studio that helped make demons souls or bloodborne.
Per wikipedia:
Across late 2020 and early 2021, several notable Japan Studio employees announced that they were departing the company.[4][5][6] According to multiple sources speaking with Video Games Chronicle Sony had not renewed most of the contracts for the studio outside of those on the Team Asobi because the studio was not considered profitable enough to continue with original game development.[7] In a statement, Sony stated that, as of 1 April 2021, Japan Studio would be re-centered around Team Asobi to build on the popularity of Astro's Playroom.[8] Before and shortly after 1 April 2021, several additional Japan Studio staff announced their departure from the studio.[9] Team Asobi was moved into PlayStation Studios in June 2021.[10]
yurinka
Member
Some of the original games where the Demon's Souls staff from Bluepoint did work before, mostly before joining Bluepoint:
I see this team more than capable of delivering original games, and particularly sequels of top tier AAA games because they also did it in the past before they nailed their updates of GoW series, MGS series, Uncharted series, Gravity Rush, SotC and Demon's Souls.
Trogdor1123
Member
I want them to do it and remove the CA just to see the people suddenly bitch about how important it is/was.
Javthusiast
Banned
Ultimately I don't care, let them make a sequel, it certainly will look and run better than anything From will ever make. And I am also not big on souls games in the first place. Elden Ring overhyped to hell and back.
Captain Toad
Banned
How do you overhype the greatest video game made to date?
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Javthusiast
Banned
Like this.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You know this will happen.
sankt-Antonio
Banned
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Don't you think their quite specific history in revisting and upgrading Japanese developed-titles puts them in a very select niche of NA devs?
They are evidently being bought for their expertise as they don't own any IP worth mentioning! So I'd say that their track record is of very great significance as to how they will be utilized under the Sony first-party umbrella.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
"April 2021, Japan Studio was reorganized and merged with Team Asobi and other SIE studios."
I don't see all like you mentioned in your cherry picked quote.
Did you even read what you posted?
K2D
Banned
But success stories with beloved, successful franchises and unproven developers are a dime a dozen at best - I can't actually name any on the spot..
John Wick
Member
Well they have already failed if we go by some of the opinions in GAF. What's the point in trying?
Maybe remastering some of these great games they may have learnt a thing or two?
Also who's to say Miyazaki can't be involved? They could collaborate with From
DavidGzz
Gold Member
Sony fans putting too much confidence in a remake studio to deliver a game comparable to the greatest game of all time. Or are we not expecting Bloodborne 2 to be as or almost as good as Elden Ring? This dev who hasn't proven themselves are supposed to rival what many consider the best game ever on their first go?
Their best chance is to get help from the other dev studios under Sony's wing like Santa Monica if From isn't going to help.
Their best chance is to get help from the other dev studios under Sony's wing like Santa Monica if From isn't going to help.
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coffinbirth
Member
You fellas do realize that Team Asobi has literally nothing to do with ANY of this, right? These guys only make glorified tech demos for in development hardware. I'm 1000% sure they are working on PSVR2 tech demos/ a new Astro game.
Japan Teams main talent is all long gone, and I'm not sure if Toshitake Tsuchikura joined Team Asobi or not, but that's who they would need from Japan Teams refugees.
Bluepoint didn't even program the Demons Souls Remake...which seems to be lost on a lot of people here. They are a port/remaster studio and have yet to prove otherwise. That being said, they were supposedly working on original IP during the Sony acquisition, so unless they negotiated that poorly, I'd assume that's what we'll see next from them.
To be clear, I don't doubt that they'll probably be putting out a Bloodbourne remaster, but to suggest they would be making a sequel without involvement by way of From is misplaced optimism at best.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
People from Japan Studios are now apart of Team Asobi.
It shouldn't be that hard but for some it is.
coffinbirth
Member
Ok?
Like whom? The janitorial department?
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
This is what I guessed when Blue Point said they're working on a remake and "original content".
As soon as I realized they didn't say "new IP", I said, they're doing bloodborne 1 and 2.
So this wouldn't surprise me if true.
As soon as I realized they didn't say "new IP", I said, they're doing bloodborne 1 and 2.
So this wouldn't surprise me if true.
coffinbirth
Member
They said that prior to being acquired though. I mean, it's certainly possible Sony contracted that out to them prior to the acquisition, but that seems unlikely given they only had 70 people in their studio at the time.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
So we post about stuff we don't know and then try and make jokes?
coffinbirth
Member
I'm literally asking you who from Japan Team has joined Team Asobi.
You are making statements that have no bearing on the facts.
Frank Horrigan
Banned
Bloodborne remake is the Duke Nukem and Shenmue 3 of rumors
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
"April 2021, Japan Studio was reorganized and merged with Team Asobi and other SIE studios."
What are studios made up of?
PEOPLE
coffinbirth
Member
Again, name a single developer or stop talking out of your ass.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You had no point and tried being funny by saying janitors.
You can't be more outa your ass than that.
coffinbirth
Member
Because you have repeatedly dodged the question.
So, I'll repeat myself...
Toshitake Tsuchikura was the last lead programmer with Japan Team at the time of it's dissolution. If he didn't join Team Asobi, they literally inherited Zero leads, and therefore can provide fuck all for Bluepoint in programming an actual videogame. That was my point. Pay attention.
tommib
Banned
I have to agree with all of this. BB haven’t yet proved they can make an original game. They’re total tech masters in their remakes but all the game logic was there before them. The point about DS programming is a good one. The game is basically running in the background with the graphical remaster on top. It’s an amazing graphical and audio tech achievement but to go from this to a sequel to what is the game of the generation to half of GAF seems like a lost battle.
If they do a collaboration with From though… We can rest assured it will be something super special.
coffinbirth
Member
Indeed.
This thread is revealing a lot about how little most understand about game development.
And yeah, if they were to collab with From and/or secure actual programmers, I am pretty confident they could make a great game.
kyliethicc
Member
All of the Bluepoint devs come from original development. They’ve made original games before.
It’s not like they only know how to do remakes.
For example, the head of Bluepoint worked on Metroid Prime.
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coffinbirth
Member
And yet they had to outsource actual programming duties for their last effort.
Just because they worked on games that other people were the driving force behind doesn't equate to being able to do anything more than we have seen thus far.
To make a poor analogy, they are a really good cover band, but they've yet to write an original tune.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
He was a lead.
You have anything stating he didn't come for the merger with Team Asobi?