MrFunSocks
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If we use the same method of counting sales for other games that means forza horizon 5 SOLD like 14 million copies in a month!
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Days Gone Creator, Jeff Ross got 8 Million number from Internal Source that matches third party website tracker.
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JerryinSoCal
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I loved the game from the start and I'm glad people are asking for a sequel but where were all of these people when the game launched or even 3-4 months after?Days Gone, the game that was berated by the majority before its launch, released in a buggy state to mediocre reviews, and had a small vocal community defending it against hords of harsh critics...is now hailed as a symbol of the big bad Sony sabotaging Bend and depriving the videogames community of a potentially amazing sequel...
Yeah, I do not buy it. Fake concern is the name of the game.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Days Gone wasn't on a sub-service so no
W11d
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Not true
The Last of Us Part II
Price drop in official PlayStation Store store for The Last of Us Part II
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MrFunSocks
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That’s not what people in here are saying? They’re saying it is on PSNow, PS+, and the PS+ instant collection. Is that wrong?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
This is before the game was added to any of those services
Fake
Member
Not true
The Last of Us Part II
Price drop in official PlayStation Store store for The Last of Us Part II
Bra...zil.
Dude, do you know I live in Brazil, right?
In fact, do you know you're using a third party site, like Jeff Ross used, right?
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Not true
The Last of Us Part II
Price drop in official PlayStation Store store for The Last of Us Part II
Both Spiderman and GOW had the same price cut 6 months after launch FYI
MrFunSocks
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
The site he used to cross-reference the data went defunct before the game even came to those services
Which do you think?
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captainpat
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Weird that he wouldn't know. That seems like information a game director should get easily.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
You can't make an informed argument based on your performance if you're missing your final, most important performance metric. SONY doesn't want to pay devs any more than they have to, or deal with pushback about creative control from local management. "Keep them in the dark and feed them shit," as the saying goes.
remember_spinal
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Who needs to pat him on the ass to make him happy?
Fake
Member
You? IDK why his comments bother you so much.
Bloodborne was for me and many the GOAT, but never did 'wow' sales. Never saw anyone complaing or downplaying the game because of that.
He said he indeed have a tool to colect the data from the game, but what I keep seeing here are trash talk, hate posts and no argument so ever.
Frankly, IDK what this game did to you guys.
remember_spinal
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People are sick of his twitter bs where he says something, goes on a podcast and says another thing just to drum up controversy for what is otherwise a very mediocre game that his own ex-studio wasn’t interested in doing a sequel for.
Fake
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So... maybe... stay away from twitter?
I never saw anyone complaing about him over twitter, in fact his last tweet was about 10/1 ratio between love and hate, but if you don't like him why even creating a thread about?
Jez.
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Bragr
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What exactly is upper management at Bend studios? in-fighting? what are you talking about?
In the interview, they talked about local management, which I assume is the Sony branch they answer to since they are a Sony first-party dev.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The only reason why any of this is interesting is if you really liked the game and would like to see a sequel get made.
Judging by his hostile attitude, I doubt that's the case, so... not much doubt what his motives are!
remember_spinal
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The guy literally said he was always treated fairly by Sony and they gave them plenty of freedom with the game and that it was a great place to work
Ryu Kaiba
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This. That's clearly why Sony turned down Days Gone 2 they don't need an inferior last of us when they produce the last of us.
assurdum
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I start to think this guy is a complete buffoon. He continues to talk about this game as a masterpiece, now we know sales number weren't trustful at all, seems the same studio wasn't that sure to want a sequel about it and now he said to have worked well with Sony when for months spitted out shit on them for the sequel fate. Maybe it's time to move on.
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ethomaz
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Well you need to be part of the studio first… the last data he received from Sony was the 5 million milestone.
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ethomaz
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Ex-developer of Days Gone… he left after the game hit 5 million… so that is the last number he has.
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remember_spinal
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I love how a mod edited the title of the thread and that information is still wrong lol
Jeff Grubbs numbers proves once again its false. There was never an 8 million number attached to this game
Jeff Ross on twitter:
Jeff Ross on the podcast after:
These two things contradict each other. If he had the bottom number by the time he left that means he used an unfounded metric to assume it sold 3 million more copies since he left. There’s is no concrete info on that, even if that site was somewhat accurate before he left (which it wasn’t, it was close) he’s just straight up lying.
Jeff Grubbs numbers proves once again its false. There was never an 8 million number attached to this game
Jeff Ross on twitter:
Jeff Ross on the podcast after:
These two things contradict each other. If he had the bottom number by the time he left that means he used an unfounded metric to assume it sold 3 million more copies since he left. There’s is no concrete info on that, even if that site was somewhat accurate before he left (which it wasn’t, it was close) he’s just straight up lying.
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Well he said it was 8 million around the time he left which was announced in early December 2020. Days Gone wasn't given away via PS+ until April 2021 so that can't be it.
Edit: It was part of the PS+ collection for PS5 launch but that was mid November. Doubt it contributed much to these numbers if at all
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Bragr
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Dude, read his damn tweet, he said: "Local studio management always made us feel like it was a big disappointment". We are not talking about his work under Sony for 20 years, we are talking about Days Gone and why it was refused a sequel and if Sony treats Bend differently because of the "low" scores.
remember_spinal
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I listened to the actual podcast he was on where they go into far more detail. He wasn’t talking about SIE he was talking about the management at Bend Studio.
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Boss Mog
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He specifically said that this number was before he left Sony and before the game was ever on PS+.
Bragr
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Which is Sony management! Its called Sony Bend!
megreotsugua
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The winning faction at Sony Bend making the new IP today better make a better game than DG because they will surely hear from the fans of DG. I can see this new IP will be shred to death.
We'll see eventually if this internal politics within Sony Bend brings us a better game or a worse game.
Boss Mog
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A lot of reviews unfairly dissed it just because the hero was an all American white guy from a rural area, you know, the kind that wouldn't necessarily vote democrat and that really upset a lot of the modern woke game "journalists" out there.
remember_spinal
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I think chances are pretty slim it won’t be a all around better game. They have experience on their side and john garvin not writing the plot.
I also think its gonna be a graphical showcase, its either on unreal 5 or decima. To me, literally anything is better than zombies
I also think the media will be a lot more kind to it after all this
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megreotsugua
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He's saying the site shows 8+ million before he left and before PS+. So looking at how the previous number of 5 million from the site reflects that internal number (with only more than 10% margin of error), the sales number of Days Gone should be close to 8 million before he left. And it went on to sell more than 1 million copies on PC afterwards and probably a number of copies more on the PS systems despite the inclusion to PSNow and PS+.
remember_spinal
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Sorry thats just not a reliable way to gauge sales, on top of all the other metrics involved.
It’s good if the guy just moves on and let the current bend make what they’re making without all the bullshit articles about the studio
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Gameplaylover
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Not a very good source since some disc games are being resold several times. Ebay and other platforms are usually flooded with used games, especially short after the release.
JerryinSoCal
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It's not about voting Democrat I don't think that character would vote for either party, I'd picture him as someone who thought it was all BS and just ignored everyone. Gaming journalists aren't really democrats they are lazy extremists meaning they'll sit back and type while looking down on everyone else but don't actually do anything. Only a small group of people actually mentioned the straight white guy thing though, but they got 99% of the attention.
Reviewers should ONLY review the quality of what is in front of them and not try to add their own way of thinking. The story can be good if it doesn't agree with your world view, a character can be interesting even if he's not a guy you'd hang out with etc. I'm as liberal as an Alaskan summer day is long and I loved the game, a middle-aged gay guy from So Cal loved it lol so no it's not about Dem or Repub it's about obnoxious jackass gaming journalists who likely went right from school to working at a gaming website and haven't really dealt with people in the real world who aren't always like them.
remember_spinal
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Straight white guy in days gone = 71 mc
Straight white guy in uncharted = 94 mc
Why won’t people admit this was juts a below average game?
Straight white guy in uncharted = 94 mc
Why won’t people admit this was juts a below average game?
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balls of snow
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Regardless, chasing metacritic is the way to go. We would never have gotten Last Guardian or Dreams or hell psvr2 if Sony cares only about sales.
Boss Mog
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Like I pointed out, Deacon isn't a straight white guy in the same way as Nate Drake, he's the kind of straight white guy woke game journalists hate, someone they would assume to be a Trump supporter. I'm not saying the game was as good as God of War or Ghost of Tsushima but it probably deserved a bit more than 71. A lot of people bought it and liked it and I don't really understand why that seems to piss you off so much?
Yeah I think you hit the nail of the head. And it's not just Deacon either, there are themes of tribalism, patriotism, conservatism, and other ideas that journalists may find "problematic" regarding characters and settlements in the game. Some people also underestimate the difference that 3 years made (between Uncharted 4 and Days Gone) regarding modern gamer culture, and gaming journalism in particular. Basically what I am saying is the shit got way more woke in the past few years.
Nezzeroth
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Comparing sales numbers as the only metric of success for a game is idiotic anyway. If that were the case, Dead Space and Mirror’s Edge would be big successes, but they weren’t because EA had to drop the price to 20€ to move units.
Ghost of Tsushima is still around 50€ not counting sales. That wasn’t the case with Days Gone.
Ghost of Tsushima is still around 50€ not counting sales. That wasn’t the case with Days Gone.
Shubh_C63
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So its probably around 5-6M. Even if it was 8M+ the franchise would had no legs for the sequel when even the initial sales were lukewarm (compared to other Sony IPs)
Sony isn't treating them badly, they just greenlit Men In Black which is a joint Marvel and Sony IP (?)
Thank god we aren't getting another soap opera zombie game but something fresh and "alien"
Sony isn't treating them badly, they just greenlit Men In Black which is a joint Marvel and Sony IP (?)
Thank god we aren't getting another soap opera zombie game but something fresh and "alien"
W11d
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The head of the studio? Like him https://twitter.com/reesechris