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Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?

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ergem

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📌 Can a PS6 Portable Be as Powerful as a PS5 by 2028?​

✅ 1. CPU (Processing Power) – Yes, Likely​

  • PS5: 8-core Zen 2 CPU @ 3.5GHz (~448 GFLOPS CPU power)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 8-core Zen 5/6 CPU @ 3.0-3.5GHz (~600+ GFLOPS CPU power)
💡 Verdict: Yes! By 2028, portable chips will be much more efficient. An 8-core Zen 5/6 CPU could match or outperform PS5’s Zen 2 CPU while using far less power.

✅ 2. GPU (Graphics Power) – Possibly, Depending on TDP​

  • PS5: 10.3 TFLOPS RDNA 2 GPU (36 CUs @ 2.23GHz)
  • Steam Deck (2022): 1.6 TFLOPS RDNA 2 GPU (8 CUs @ 1.6GHz)
  • ROG Ally (2023): 3.8 TFLOPS RDNA 3 GPU (12 CUs @ 2.7GHz)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 6-10 TFLOPS RDNA 5+ GPU (~20 CUs @ 2.5GHz?)
💡 Verdict: Maybe.

  • A 6-10 TFLOPS GPU in a 30-50W handheld is possible with RDNA 5+ or AI-assisted upscaling (FSR 4.0, AI reconstruction).
  • But it won’t be exactly 10.3 TFLOPS like PS5 unless Sony pushes higher power consumption (50-60W docked).

✅ 3. RAM (Memory & Bandwidth) – Likely​

  • PS5: 16GB GDDR6 @ 448GB/s
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 24GB LPDDR6X @ 400-500GB/s OR LP-HBM @ 800GB/s
💡 Verdict: Yes!

  • LPDDR6X (expected ~2026) could provide 400-500GB/s bandwidth, nearly matching the PS5.
  • If Sony uses LP-HBM (~800GB/s), it would surpass PS5 in memory bandwidth!

✅ 4. Storage – Faster than PS5​

  • PS5: 5.5GB/s SSD (9GB/s compressed)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): PCIe 5.0 SSD (~10GB/s)
💡 Verdict: Yes! A PCIe 5.0 SSD in 2028 will be at least 2× faster than PS5’s storage.

✅ 5. Power Consumption – Portable vs. Console Tradeoff​

  • PS5: ~200W+ TDP (console)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 35W-50W TDP (portable mode), 60W+ docked mode?
💡 Verdict: It depends on power limits.

  • In handheld mode (~35W-50W), the PS6 Portable may run at ~6-8 TFLOPS.
  • In docked mode (~60W+), it could hit PS5-level performance (~10 TFLOPS).
  • AI upscaling (FSR 4.0, DLSS-like tech) can compensate for lower raw power.

📌 Final Answer: Will PS6 Portable Match PS5?​

ComponentPS5 (2020)PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected)Can it match PS5?
CPU8-core Zen 2 @ 3.5GHz8-core Zen 5/6 @ 3.0-3.5GHz✅ Likely better
GPU10.3 TFLOPS RDNA 2 (36 CUs @ 2.23GHz)6-10 TFLOPS RDNA 5 (~20 CUs @ 2.5GHz?)🟡 Maybe (~6-8 TFLOPS portable, 10 TFLOPS docked)
RAM16GB GDDR6 @ 448GB/s24GB LPDDR6X (~500GB/s) or LP-HBM (~800GB/s)✅ Likely equal or better
Storage5.5GB/s SSDPCIe 5.0 SSD (~10GB/s)✅ Likely faster
Power (TDP)200W+35W-50W (portable), 60W+ (docked)🟡 Depends on TDP

📌 Final Verdict:​

✅ A PS6 Portable in 2028 CAN match or exceed the PS5 in most areas, but it depends on power limits.

🚀 Possible Performance Modes:​

  • 🟢 Portable Mode (~35W-50W): 6-8 TFLOPS (PS4 Pro+ to near-PS5 performance)
  • 🟡 Docked Mode (~60W+): 8-10 TFLOPS (matching PS5 with better RAM & SSD)
  • 🔴 Full PS5 power (10.3 TFLOPS) in handheld mode? Unlikely, unless power efficiency drastically improves.
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By next-gen, we will have cross-gen games and probably 99% of games will be built with PS5 as the least common denominator. With that in mind, PS6 at 50w tdp at $449 that is small enough to be portable and can be attached to a separate sort of PS portal machine (controller+screen+battery) would be a great idea! PS6 base will be cheap and PS6 Pro will be the 200w-300w monster machine.
 
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Jesb

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By 2028 is PS5 an impressive benchmark? Handhelds seem to be around a full gen behind currently. By 2028 a handheld with PS5 power will still be a gen behind consoles.
 
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ergem

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Jesb said:
By 2028 is PS5 an impressive benchmark? Handhelds seem to be around a full gen behind currently. By 2028 a handheld with PS5 power will still be a gen behind consoles.
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If we’re looking for a next-gen leap I have no doubt it will be very expensive that will lead to a shrinkage of console market.

But having that option as a PS6 Pro would be a win-win.
 
T4keD0wN

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Good luck cooling a 35w-50w portable and even if it was theres no way it could match 200w tower since there have been close to no efficiency improvements in 5 years.

Is this AI generated garble really worth sharing?
 
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James Sawyer Ford

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Not a chance.

PS6 Portable will be much like Steam Deck, optional for games that support it, but not a requirement. May support base PS4 games universally without patches, but not PS5.
 
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ergem

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cireza said:
Can the home version of PS6 surpass PS5 and not cost more is the first thing to answer.
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Perhaps it can surpass it by a slight margin in some metrics.

But the 50w PS6 home version I reckon would be more expensive. The potential portability once attached to PS portal is the difference. PS5 would still be available by then and I think almost all games will be cross-gen. So a cheaper PS5 is still an option.
 
Topher

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ergem said:

📌 Can a PS6 Portable Be as Powerful as a PS5 by 2028?​

✅ 1. CPU (Processing Power) – Yes, Likely​

  • PS5: 8-core Zen 2 CPU @ 3.5GHz (~448 GFLOPS CPU power)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 8-core Zen 5/6 CPU @ 3.0-3.5GHz (~600+ GFLOPS CPU power)
💡 Verdict: Yes! By 2028, portable chips will be much more efficient. An 8-core Zen 5/6 CPU could match or outperform PS5’s Zen 2 CPU while using far less power.

✅ 2. GPU (Graphics Power) – Possibly, Depending on TDP​

  • PS5: 10.3 TFLOPS RDNA 2 GPU (36 CUs @ 2.23GHz)
  • Steam Deck (2022): 1.6 TFLOPS RDNA 2 GPU (8 CUs @ 1.6GHz)
  • ROG Ally (2023): 3.8 TFLOPS RDNA 3 GPU (12 CUs @ 2.7GHz)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 6-10 TFLOPS RDNA 5+ GPU (~20 CUs @ 2.5GHz?)
💡 Verdict: Maybe.

  • A 6-10 TFLOPS GPU in a 30-50W handheld is possible with RDNA 5+ or AI-assisted upscaling (FSR 4.0, AI reconstruction).
  • But it won’t be exactly 10.3 TFLOPS like PS5 unless Sony pushes higher power consumption (50-60W docked).

✅ 3. RAM (Memory & Bandwidth) – Likely​

  • PS5: 16GB GDDR6 @ 448GB/s
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 24GB LPDDR6X @ 400-500GB/s OR LP-HBM @ 800GB/s
💡 Verdict: Yes!

  • LPDDR6X (expected ~2026) could provide 400-500GB/s bandwidth, nearly matching the PS5.
  • If Sony uses LP-HBM (~800GB/s), it would surpass PS5 in memory bandwidth!

✅ 4. Storage – Faster than PS5​

  • PS5: 5.5GB/s SSD (9GB/s compressed)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): PCIe 5.0 SSD (~10GB/s)
💡 Verdict: Yes! A PCIe 5.0 SSD in 2028 will be at least 2× faster than PS5’s storage.

✅ 5. Power Consumption – Portable vs. Console Tradeoff​

  • PS5: ~200W+ TDP (console)
  • PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected): 35W-50W TDP (portable mode), 60W+ docked mode?
💡 Verdict: It depends on power limits.

  • In handheld mode (~35W-50W), the PS6 Portable may run at ~6-8 TFLOPS.
  • In docked mode (~60W+), it could hit PS5-level performance (~10 TFLOPS).
  • AI upscaling (FSR 4.0, DLSS-like tech) can compensate for lower raw power.

📌 Final Answer: Will PS6 Portable Match PS5?​

ComponentPS5 (2020)PS6 Portable (~2028 Expected)Can it match PS5?
CPU8-core Zen 2 @ 3.5GHz8-core Zen 5/6 @ 3.0-3.5GHz✅ Likely better
GPU10.3 TFLOPS RDNA 2 (36 CUs @ 2.23GHz)6-10 TFLOPS RDNA 5 (~20 CUs @ 2.5GHz?)🟡 Maybe (~6-8 TFLOPS portable, 10 TFLOPS docked)
RAM16GB GDDR6 @ 448GB/s24GB LPDDR6X (~500GB/s) or LP-HBM (~800GB/s)✅ Likely equal or better
Storage5.5GB/s SSDPCIe 5.0 SSD (~10GB/s)✅ Likely faster
Power (TDP)200W+35W-50W (portable), 60W+ (docked)🟡 Depends on TDP

📌 Final Verdict:​

✅ A PS6 Portable in 2028 CAN match or exceed the PS5 in most areas, but it depends on power limits.

🚀 Possible Performance Modes:​

  • 🟢 Portable Mode (~35W-50W): 6-8 TFLOPS (PS4 Pro+ to near-PS5 performance)
  • 🟡 Docked Mode (~60W+): 8-10 TFLOPS (matching PS5 with better RAM & SSD)
  • 🔴 Full PS5 power (10.3 TFLOPS) in handheld mode? Unlikely, unless power efficiency drastically improves.
——————————————————

By next-gen, we will have cross-gen games and probably 99% of games will be built with PS5 as the least common denominator. With that in mind, PS6 at 50w tdp at $449 that is small enough to be portable and can be attached to a separate sort of PS portal machine (controller+screen+battery) would be a great idea! PS6 base will be cheap and PS6 Pro will be the 200w-300w monster machine.
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You asked ChatGPT about handheld gaming and it says nothing about the battery?
 
adamsapple

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG said:
Chatgpt (or any other AI chatbot usage) is the modern day moron test.

I'm thankful it exists.
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You will be absolutely surprised to see that ChatGPT does not think of itself as the modern day moron test :messenger_tears_of_joy:


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Akuji

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has anyone compared the new AI Max cores to the PS5? It shouldnt be that much of a performance diffrence?
That being said, i dont know about the power draw of the AI Max chips.
 
Dorfdad

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Why are we still having this discussion it doesn’t have to be. A portable with a 8-10 inch screen would be an albatross to a portable device the power / cooling / battery life would ruin any reasonable cost. What they need to do is make an 8 inch oled screen / Hall effect stick / a more efficient battery and cpu. 24Gb ram and a 1080p /120 hz handheld.

The dock is where they can #1 upsell #2 balance the power. When docked the gpu in the dock takes over the gpu / and unlocks the cpu.

This is marketable today, but for some reason it’s not bare currently.
 
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ergem

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Dorfdad said:
Why are we still having this discussion it doesn’t have to be. A portable with a 8-10 inch screen would be an albatross to a portable device the power / cooling / battery life would ruin any reasonable cost. What they need to do is make an 8 inch oled screen / Hall effect stick / a more efficient battery and cpu. 24Gb ram and a 1080p /120 hz handheld.

The dock is where they can #1 upsell #2 balance the power. When docked the gpu in the dock takes over the gpu / and unlocks the cpu.

This is marketable today, but for some reason it’s not bare currently.
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How about do it the other way. Make a PS6 out that is 50w tdp max using low power components.

Then offer a PS Portal - like device where it can be attached to play games on the go.

The 50w device is the PS6 and a 200-300w big brother is the PS6 Pro.
 
Akuji

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Some comparison to the PS5 ( very basic )
Performance looks pretty much on par with the PS5 going of my Memory with Medium 1600p performance numbers he gets.


So all we need is a ( big ) reduction in power draw. This is RDNA3.5, for Mobile its state of the art, for dedicated we just had a release of RDNA 4 which is EXTREMLY power efficient compared to 3.5 in the 9070 ( not the xt ) if you dont push mhz for more performance.
Having it run at 2500mhz which is still insanenly fast we could get already a big power decrease.

With UDNA coming up a chiplet system i expect power draw to improve as well. Maybe 1 more node shrink in 2028 and we could very well be there.
Actually exciting ngl. PS5 performance in a Handheld whe it comes to raster performance, AI / RTX performace improvement over what is in the PS5 will be absolutely insane.
Maybe 10x by then? So ALOT of power for Upscaling etc.

So the PS6 Portable would absolutely smash the PS5 in all but GPU power.
Maybe its time to release PS6 and PS6 Portable next gen.
 
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ergem

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Akuji said:
So the PS6 Portable would absolutely smash the PS5 in all but GPU power.
Maybe its time to release PS6 and PS6 Portable next gen.
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You think it can match it in RAM bandwidth? I think that’s where it would fall short. And without enough bandwidth, the porting from PS5 to PS6 portable might cause some issues.
 
Dorfdad

Dorfdad

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ergem said:
How about do it the other way. Make a PS6 out that is 50w tdp max using low power components.

Then offer a PS Portal - like device where it can be attached to play games on the go.

The 50w device is the PS6 and a 200-300w big brother is the PS6 Pro.
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Than you have multiple skus I mean they can do appt of things but if they want one sku to cover both spectrums just make the dock as a separate add on. Ps6 is portable device and can output to tv with pssr fsr 1080p to a 4k resolution using the basic “dock” if you want the “pro” just buy the 299.99 dock that makes it 8k/60 capable.
 
Dorfdad

Dorfdad

Gold Member
Akuji said:


Some comparison to the PS5 ( very basic )
Performance looks pretty much on par with the PS5 going of my Memory with Medium 1600p performance numbers he gets.


So all we need is a ( big ) reduction in power draw. This is RDNA3.5, for Mobile its state of the art, for dedicated we just had a release of RDNA 4 which is EXTREMLY power efficient compared to 3.5 in the 9070 ( not the xt ) if you dont push mhz for more performance.
Having it run at 2500mhz which is still insanenly fast we could get already a big power decrease.

With UDNA coming up a chiplet system i expect power draw to improve as well. Maybe 1 more node shrink in 2028 and we could very well be there.
Actually exciting ngl. PS5 performance in a Handheld whe it comes to raster performance, AI / RTX performace improvement over what is in the PS5 will be absolutely insane.
Maybe 10x by then? So ALOT of power for Upscaling etc.

So the PS6 Portable would absolutely smash the PS5 in all but GPU power.
Maybe its time to release PS6 and PS6 Portable next gen.
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Possibly but the cost would not be feeble for a 2028 revision in chips and going on sale as well.
 
Schmick

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Member
This is not what the fans have asked for. If Sony in fact do release a PS6 handheld the fans will want absolute hardware parity (which of course will not be possible) otherwise it's another Series S situation.
 
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