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[I collect VHS tapes]

I loved RDR when it first came out. finally giving RDR2 a try and despite the game looking beautiful, everything feels sluggish and tedious

I don't even know how to really explain this. everything from mounting my horse, looting items, switching firearms, skinning animals, etc. feels clunky, slow and unnatural

I can't remember if RDR was like this. maybe my tastes have just changed. think I'll stick with as I've heard incredible things about this game, but the game just doesn't seem to flow well when it comes to movement and interacting with stuff

I've never tried GTA 5. does it have similar issues?

 

[ReBurn]

I think it feels slower because things were slower in the time period the story occurs in. Horses and steam locomotives, everything is lower tech. I always thought that was part of its charm.

 

[Pandawan]

Yeah. It is quite annoying.

Also, for me, the linear mission design where you just follow one order after another and get a failure screen if you try to be creative makes this game tedious. Story and realism is fantastic, but missions in RDR2 are just dozens of slow and tedious walking and talking while following instructions.

 

[Sooner]

It's the worst part of the game.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I think it feels slower because things were slower in the time period the story occurs in. Horses and steam locomotives, everything is lower tech. I always thought that was part of its charm.

I don't mean the speed at which I can move around the map. the game has fast travel that addresses that.

I mean from when I hit a button to start skinning an animal, the slow engagement of the animation and clumsy orienting to actually skin the animal

me running to a horse for a quick get away, then it feeling unnaturally throttled while actually mounting the horse

maybe this is all intentional? it is driving my ADHD crazy

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Yeah. It is quite annoying.

Also linear mission design where you just follow one order after another and get fail screen if you try to be creative is making this game tedious as for me

this is another reason I took a break

I was constantly failing missions and I didn't know why

it's bizarre, if you deviate from a path too much you fail a mission, even if the mission seems to encourage creative ways to solve it

 

[Sooner]

I don't mean the speed at which I can move around the map. the game has fast travel that addresses that.

Barely. And using the word "fast" is generous.

 

[Mattyp]

It’s a bad game and the controls are bad.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Yeah it controls like shit, and becomes even worse at the final part of the game.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Barely. And using the word "fast" is generous.

fair, but if I had travel by horse everywhere I would have forced Arthur to blow his own brains out

 

[OneBigPuss]

BTW i love playing GTAV and its much more arcade compare to RDR2.

 

[Damigos]

Its the 30 fps

 

[manlisten]

I found Arthur really difficult and slow to control which is why I put the game down way back when. I'll give it another go some day.

I had the same issue with GTA IV when I first played that and did adjust eventually.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

lol perfect

 

[BennyBlanco]

Its the 30 fps

This game is night and day better at high frame rates.

 

[fazzk7]

I haven't played RDR2 since it first launched, but I always understand these complaints about the sluggish controls and movement. I don't think it affected my enjoyment of the game as much as others though, similarly for GTA. Especially for RDR2, the slower more deliberant movement and actions fit so well with the experience etc that I think I was okay with it. Meaning I wouldn't want COD level movement and control as an extreme example. But yea it can be frustrating sometimes.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Its the 30 fps

nah tried it on PC, has nothing to do with fps

edit: did you read my OP? literally none of the stuff I mentioned has anything to do with FPS

 

[PeteBull]

I loved RDR when it first came out. finally giving RDR2 a try and despite the game looking beautiful, everything feels sluggish and tedious

I don't even know how to really explain this. everything from mounting my horse, switching firearms, skinning animals, etc. feels clunky, slow and unnatural

I can't remember if RDR was like this. maybe my tastes have just changed. think I'll stick with as I've heard incredible things about this game, but the game just doesn't seem to flow well when it comes to movement and interacting with stuff

I've never tried GTA 5. does it have similar issues?

Check this vid , OP, it explains exactly the thing u feeling, input latency

 

[semiconscious]

"well, that's just how it was back then. everyone just moved at a more laid-back pace. remember, this's back when folks would just 'mosey along"'...

Spoiler

no, i never really bought this. always thought it came down to an obsessive preoccupation with petty 'realistic' detail, combined with a complete lack of appreciation of just how tiring this'd become after a couple dozen hours...

 

[Topher]

Yep. Sluggish controls and gameplay. That's why I don't care for the game.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I haven't played RDR2 since it first launched, but I always understand these complaints about the sluggish controls and movement. I don't think it affected my enjoyment of the game as much as others though, similarly for GTA. Especially for RDR2, the slower more deliberant movement and actions fit so well with the experience etc that I think I was okay with it. Meaning I wouldn't want COD level movement and control as an extreme example. But yea it can be frustrating sometimes.

it can be chill when I'm just admiring the sunset and strolling on my horse

its fucking awful when I'm in the middle of combat or trying to collect resources

its basically awful when I'm doing anything other than idly riding my horse

 

[Spyxos]

Yeah it is really bad, but i got used to it. After playing a lot of Read Dead Online.

 

[rofif]

It's a good game

 

[fazzk7]

It's kind of crazy how frustrating gunplay is in all GTA games and in RDR. I think it's partially because it's not really considered a third person shooter. But for all the moments that you have a shootout scene it is frustrating next to actual 3rd person shooter games. The solution it seems is the tag the enemy and do a slow motion shooting automatic sequence. I forget the name of that system haha. But yea manually running around and aiming during those sequences in GTA and here are not good as far as controls go.

Imagine a good 3rd person control combat system in a GTA or RDR game.

 

[Danjin44]

This is my biggest reason why I have zero interest R* games.....you can have the most advance graphics and details but if the game is not fun to control and play then all of that is worthless to me.

At end of the day I playing video game not a fucking movie.

 

[ManaByte]

It feels like it’s underwater.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Same for all their games

 

[adamsapple]

Great to experience once but yeah, the controls and response all feels very sluggish.

RDR1 was much better in terms of playability, IMO.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That time of year again, pardner!

 

[Dr. Suchong]

Controls have always been rubbish in Rockstar games.
Which is so strange when the production values everywhere else are generally high.

 

[rabbity-thing]

It's the worst part of the game.

It's the whole game, tho.

Playing the game is the worst part of the game. I can't with it. It's crazy that Kojima's walking-while-trying-not-to-trip-and-fall game was more enjoyable to play.

 

[StereoVsn]

The stupid rails during mission design annoyed the f out of me. On PC there used to be some mods to help with animations and QoL at least but mission design continued sucking.

In short, play KCD2, OP. Guns are kind of rudimentary though.

 

[bitbydeath]

RDR1 and GTAV handle much better than RDR2.
Arthur moves like he’s 90 years old and has a really bad case of arthritis.

Best current open world game is still Days Gone.

 

[Freeman76]

The game is perfect imo, rarely nowadays are games aimed at people who want to just take their time

 

[VulcanRaven]

That is how Rockstar games are and I love the gameplay.

 

[Mozzarella]

RDR2 is the type of game you show to your dad to tell him look at how gaming has become so realistic and mature, but you know it deep down that its just an average game with high budget.
I mean i like it, its good, but yeah its not the peak of gaming like many casual gamers claim, i noticed a lot of RDR2 biggest fans are the type that played total of 30-50 games in their life.

 

[nowhat]

The game is perfect imo, rarely nowadays are games aimed at people who want to just take their time

Oh FFS. In the inital tutorial, like the first mission in the game. The game suggest you loot all cupboards, because that's what you should do. At the same time, your team is yelling "what's the fucking holdup? Get over here!". But I can't get over there, because for Arthur has to place himself very strictly in front of a container, probably taking a few steps in place just to get it right, before I can actually even initiate the looting animation.

Don't give me the "it's realistic!" answer, because it isn't. I personally don't pace myself before opening a drawer, I just, like, open it. It's just a waste of time. It in no way adds to the experience.

 

[Edgelord79]

It’s a very heavy feel. I love and hate the game. It’s so good and so bad at the same time.

It’s a masterpiece.

 

[cormack12]

Greatest game ever made.

 

[Trilobit]

You need to accept the tempo and speed of the game. If you try to rush from place to place and play it like a shooter then you'll miss the whole point of how it was designed. It is one of the best and most immersive gaming experiences I've had and much is thanks to its controls and longer animations.

Take some sessions when you only ride somewhere, set up camp, go and fish, come back to the camp to cook the fish and end the evening with a bottle of bourbon by the fire before going to sleep. On your ride back to the big camp look for some herbs so that you can cook some good venison and maybe stop to play cards at a saloon on the way.

 

[ChoosableOne]

He is a slow guy so he moves slowly. Like a cool cowboy. And it's fine. I didn't play this gem for months because of comments like this.



What more do you want Arthur to do? Swing between skyscrapers with a web?

Riding a horse(holding x?) to missions and listening to boring conversations for five minutes is a crime though.

 

[Bungie]

I like the weight feeling especially once I'm deep into the game but I totally get why it could bother people, It adds some realism personally for me, GTA IV did the same with driving & it was super rewarding to master that & being able to feel the weight of a car or something is tough to pull off in games. Most feel arcadey.

 

[Kabelly]

yea my favourite thing is pc players convincing themselves it's better with higher frame rate. that's just how Arthur controls. there's just so many little animations and they don't cancel each other out usually.

 

[Queso de Grande]

I think it feels slower because things were slower in the time period the story occurs in. Horses and steam locomotives, everything is lower tech. I always thought that was part of its charm.

This is it exactly. The world was a different pace back then and it added to the immersion for my experience.

 

[RCX]

I loved the atmosphere, visuals and story

But as a game I never want to play it ever again.

 

[M.W.]

GOAT for me.

KCD2 can lick my balls though.

 

[Fake]

Stick with the first game and you will be fine.

 

[thegame983]

RDR2 is a great game as long as you're not pressing any buttons or moving the joystick.

 

[HRK69]

People complaining about Red Dead 2 controls need to git gud

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Gave up on it. Boring as shit.

The riding to every mission where some NPC talks smack at you that you can't skip is pretty much the entire game. Outside of the terrible linear mission structure.