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Game Informer Teases Super Surprising Game Reveal [South Park, use other thread]

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Derrick01

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Lothars said:
Not really, I wouldn't call Obsidian a good developer, an average one that makes extremely buggy games.
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You like ME2 and Fallout 3 and think they're better rpgs than their counterparts though.

Obsidian is world class for our genre and they still try to make real rpgs. Granted I'm not expecting something as deep as New Vegas for this but since it is a full game I expect it to be better from a gameplay perspective than what Bethesda and Bioware have been putting out.
 
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Lothars

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Derrick01 said:
You like ME2 and Fallout 3 and think they're better rpgs than their counterparts though.

Obsidian is world class for our genre and they still try to make real rpgs. Granted I'm not expecting something as deep as New Vegas for this but since it is a full game I expect it to be better from a gameplay perspective than what Bethesda and Bioware have been putting out.
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I don't think ME2 is a better RPG but I think it is as good as ME1, Fallout 3 I think it has a better world than New Vegas but I think New Vegas has some good things, Obsidian has great writers though so it gives it hope but I don't see how it will be better than Bethesda or Bioware has been putting out especially with Obsidians History.
 
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Spirit of Jazz

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Lothars said:
Not really, I wouldn't call Obsidian a good developer, an average one that makes extremely buggy games.
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Gee, given the state Skyrim's in I think it's fair to say Obsidian are coding geniuses for releasing NV as it was. Not forgetting how bug free Dungeon Siege 3 was on its release.
 
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Pai Pai Master said:
Yet Bethesda gets heaps of praise every time they release a game?
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After playing Elder Scrolls Skyrim for over 40 odd hours I have ran into about 4 bugs? None of them being massive, the only one that sticks out is a bow I dropped outside a city started casually started to float. They have come a long way I would say.
 
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Derrick01

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Lothars said:
I don't think ME2 is a better RPG but I think it is as good as ME1, Fallout 3 I think it has a better world than New Vegas but I think New Vegas has some good things, Obsidian has great writers though so it gives it hope but I don't see how you can think it will be better than Bethesda or Bioware has been putting out especially with Obsidians History.
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Because while both of those developers have been busy on dumbing their games down this gen, Obsidian put out Alpha Protocol and New Vegas. Two games that don't have the production values and hype that Bioware and Bethesda get, but two games that have real RPG elements.

Not to mention these people have created some of the best western rpgs ever before they were Obsidian. Seriously if you're going by history, there is no one more capable of making a good western RPG.
 
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Lothars

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Pai Pai Master said:
Yet Bethesda gets heaps of praise every time they release a game?
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It seems to be what people encounter in the games because in Skyrim, I have had a couple of hard freezes in loading screens but other than that I haven't encountered any which is way more than I can say for game like New Vegas where I encountered not only freezes but bugs as well.

They are both open world games though so I know experiences are all over the map.
 
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Massa

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Sh1ner said:
After playing Elder Scrolls Skyrim for over 40 odd hours I have ran into about 4 bugs? None of them being massive, the only one that sticks out is a bow I dropped outside a city started casually started to float. They have come a long way I would say.
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After playing New Vegas for 40 hours I also only ran into only 4 or 5 bugs.
 
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Derrick01 said:
Because while both of those developers have been busy on dumbing their games down this gen, Obsidian put out Alpha Protocol and New Vegas. Two games that don't have the production values and hype that Bioware and Bethesda get, but two games that have real RPG elements.
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Really SHITTY RPG elements in Alpha Protocols case, unless you look up the perfect build to make before you start the game.

AP had some strengths, especially with the conversations and the story structure, but the RPG elements were very poorly done.
 
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Spirit of Jazz

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Lothars said:
It seems to be what people encounter in the games because in Skyrim, I have had a couple of hard freezes in loading screens but other than that I haven't encountered any which is way more than I can say for game like New Vegas where I encountered not only freezes but bugs as well.
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Great, anecdotally Skyrim has freezed on me around 5 times in loading screens and I'm not even halfway through, the new patch has resulted in dragons flying in reverse and resistences no longer have any effect. NV Froze on me once, I encountered no other major glitches.

Given Dungeon Siege had was relatively glitch free on launch I think it's fair to say a lot of, if not most of the issues people had with NV derived from Bethesda's poor coding on the Gamebryo engine.


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Really SHITTY RPG elements in Alpha Protocols case, unless you look up the perfect build to make before you start the game.
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I think by RPG elements people were referring to the structure and conversation system of the game. With that said I never got the complaints about builds given I took neither stealth nor pistols and did fine.
 
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AndrewDean84xX

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I see Matt and Trey writing a good script for this game. I bet we will see so many game references. It seems like the show gets better and better. I just watched the episode about Broadway shows tell women to give blow jobs. Bro!
 
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Rodney McKay

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Spirit of Jazz said:
I think by RPG elements people were referring to the structure and conversation system of the game. With that said I never got the complaints about builds given I took neither stealth nor pistols and did fine.
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It's not that there aren't multiple GOOD ways to spec your character, it's that there are also BAD ways to spec your character. Assault were terrible no matter how many points I put into it.

The reason so many go with pistol and stealth is that those are broken in a way that makes the game more fun. Slow down time and kill every enemy in the room? Sure! Turn invisible when an enemy spots you? Go right ahead!
 
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Omegasquash

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AndrewDean84xX said:
I see Matt and Trey writing a good script for this game. I bet we will see so many game references. It seems like the show gets better and better. I just watched the episode about Broadway shows tell women to give blow jobs. Bro!
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Fine episode, that was. The more I look at it, the more I think this could be good, as long as there's not an attempt to make it into a mishmesh of all the episodes, as opposed to something like an episode in and of itself.
 
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Seanspeed

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Could be really good considering Matt and Trey are taking a large role in this.

South Park is still an extremely funny and smart show after all these years.
 
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South Park has only gotten better with age. One of the few, if only, series that have been on for over 10 years and can say that.
 
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Eric Hall

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Game Informer delivers a surprise, just like they said they would.

GAF gets disappointed because it was the not the surprise they were expecting (Like Shenmue 3 for some reason)

Seems about right
 
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darkwing

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Eric Hall said:
Game Informer delivers a surprise, just like they said they would.

GAF gets disappointed because it was the not the surprise they were expecting (Like Shenmue 3 for some reason)

Seems about right
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this bodes well for the Spike VGA thingy unveiling of the exclusive 'surprise'
 
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KefkaTaran

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Xpliskin said:
And to the others quoting me, I'll stand firm. Hyping your own creation up with ambiguous statements is a very cheap practice, and that's my opinion.
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There's nothing ambiguous about calling it a huge surprise. Assuming for some reason that that surprise would be a huge sequel or franchise revival seems to be a misunderstanding of the word "surprise."
 
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