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Gamers Nexus - The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility
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Same, that was gross.
RayHell
Member
Just remember the only person who benefited from all this shenanigan. GN got the more visibility and increase subscription from Linus haters. The more wave you do the bigger the increase in subscription and revenue. Linus was just a tool in the real end goal. Since they saw the benefit the Newegg controversy they pursuing that new trend. Willing even to attack is old mate for the benefit of his channel until one day he's sitting on top until some controversy arise about his abuse of power.
Moral of the story, stop being a binary partisan.
Moral of the story, stop being a binary partisan.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I hate everyone and I don't know why
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yeah, it’s evil GN accusing poor “tool” LTT. That’s alright, Amazon can deliver tinfoil on subscription.
RayHell
Member
Sorry for exposing your boyfriend Steve but if you think those kind of videos are done only out kindness of heart you need to touch some grass.Yeah, it’s evil GN accusing poor “tool” LTT. That’s alright, Amazon can deliver tinfoil on subscription.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Enjoy your conspiracy theories and tin foil.
RayHell
Member
A youtuber trying making a controversial video to increase his channel affluence. What crazy idea. No one ever tried that before. Must be a conspiracy for sure.
Also, and keep that between you and me, Leprechauns are not the providers of the marshmallows in the Lucky Charms like the TV says.
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Shadowstar39
Member
Its so typical of some of the "youtubers" to pull this drama shit. Slow news day, bam make trouble where none is needed for clicks and videos.
Also whenever i here " accused of sexual abuse/harrasment with no direct proof or police reports, 9/10 its bs from the woke crowd or others to take out a "problematic site" or get rid of the competition, depending on who said it.
Sorry but if there isn't a police report than it shouldn't hold up.
The court of twitter public opinion is usually wrong and a bunch of no life weirdos.
That being said, i know nothing about this situation, and just commenting based on what has been a re-currying pattern. To these nutters, just looking at a woman, making a joke, saying that men and women are different, or some of the weird pro-noun shit is "violence, or sexual abuse" .
RadioactiveLobster
Member
Wow, it's not every day you read one of the dumbest takes ever written.
demigod
Member
I don’t care for GN. LTT got bitchslapped, good enough for me.A youtuber trying making a controversial video to increase his channel affluence. What crazy idea. No one ever tried that before. Must be a conspiracy for sure.
Also, and keep that between you and me, Leprechauns are not the providers of the marshmallows in the Lucky Charms like the TV says.
RayHell
Member
Usual reflex of people without critical thinking. Call everything dumb. Go eat your fruit loops kid.
Kdad
Member
This is a fucking lie. As a representative of Leprechaun Union 420, I'll tell you my members spend all day, with barely a break, shitting those little fucking nugget hard mallows into those boxes for you to enjoy.A youtuber trying making a controversial video to increase his channel affluence. What crazy idea. No one ever tried that before. Must be a conspiracy for sure.
Also, and keep that between you and me, Leprechauns are not the providers of the marshmallows in the Lucky Charms like the TV says.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Linus getting dragged again fuck dat ninja.
Spyxos
Gold Member
Some short summary on what is happening this time?
Topher
Identifies as young
That section on Steve is just bizarre. He seems to think if GN isn't flipping people off and calling them names then he is "accepting the premise of assholes". A bit ironic since that guy is a bit of an asshole, even if he is often right.
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Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
Both of them are douches and need to just grow up and move on from this drama. It's absolutely pathetic.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
GN called out Linus for being sponsored by Honey then cancelling that sponsorship when they [LTT] found out Honey was a scam (way before the rest of the world did)......LTT didnt warn the public about it.
Linus responded to GN saying GN wasnt being moral with their reporting because they didnt play Linus whole clip so its being taken out of context.
In Linus response he says he didnt publicly derail Honey(the scam) because it would make him look bad, he didnt know users of the extension were getting scammed too, he thought it was just content creators.
LTT didnt want to waste time making a huff and puff about cancelling a sponsorship with shady companies because who does that.........ohh yeah LTT does that with examples like when LTT stopped sponsorship with ASUS.......P.S Linus gets paid alot for sponsorship so of course he kept working with ASUS.
LTT wants GN to be held to a higher standard with their reporting.....literally PHD Journalism levels of high standards.
LTT needed right to reply, you know how LTT shows this by making a video about GN without contacting them and giving them a right to reply
But woe is LTT they are constantly getting attack even if they did nothing wrong, but actually did something wrong, but are learning from it.
LTT sends veiled but not really veiled threats of a defamation case.
GN responds with fuck that ninja we gonna keep reporting shady shit when we see shady shit.
Especially against multi-million dollars companies (no company named but LTT is a multi-million dollar company)
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nowhat
Member
I thought by now Linus would have learned "you don't fuck with tech jesus, he will bring the receipts". Here's GN's response:
Our Response to Linus Sebastian | GamersNexus
GN Extras Our Response to Linus Sebastian January 21, 2025 Last Updated: 2025-01-21 GamersNexus responds to Linus Sebastian's WAN Show segment Evidence Included PLAGIARISM: Receipt #1 - History of Failure to Resolve IssuesDATA ERRORS: Receipt #2 - History of Failure to Resolve IssuesEDITORIAL...
Topher
Identifies as young
How so?
Kronark
Member
Louis isn't saying that Steven needs to flip people off more or be more of an asshole. He's saying Steve has gone out of his way to document and receipt everything he claims to an extent Linus would never bother to do or couldn't because it'd make him look bad. Louis isn't actually mad at Steve, just frustrated that Steve bends over backwards to cater to these assholes when they would never do the same for him. Louis is telling Steve not to play into Linus' manipulative bullshit or give it any respect.
Edit: Also Louis does an amazing job of breaking down Linus' bullshit in his new video, especially that GN was 100% right to call LTT out on their piss poor response to finding out the Honey plugin was malicious. A tucked away forum post was never acceptable fucking notice and Linus fucking knows that.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I supported Steve when he first attacked Linus. Now I’m on Linus side, Steve is indeed getting too big for his britches and is getting drunk on the moral high ground koolaid.
I’m not ready to say Steve is there (or even close) yet, but stuff like this is what happens when you put yourself on a moral pedestal. Your journalism standards start to slip and you start looking for evidence that supports your view and ignore what doesn’t.
I’m not ready to say Steve is there (or even close) yet, but stuff like this is what happens when you put yourself on a moral pedestal. Your journalism standards start to slip and you start looking for evidence that supports your view and ignore what doesn’t.
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kevboard
Member
Louis went full retard with this and GamersNexus are destroying their credibility.
Linus did nothing wrong.
honestly, if I were in charge of LTT I'd sue GN at this point.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Steve always goes out of his way to document and receipt everything. As he should. He isn't doing this just for Linus. And here is the thumbnail in the section "how to properly handle that situation" where Louis is bragging about himself.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Never liked gn. Always seemed holier than thou
Kronark
Member
Steve always goes out of his way to document and receipt everything. As he should. He isn't doing this just for Linus. And here is the thumbnail in the section "how to properly handle that situation" where Louis is bragging about himself.
Are you a human? Do you understand human nuance in conversational settings? Yes the literal physical take away is a middle finger, but what is being communicated is "You don't owe these people shit and you can tell them no however you'd like". Louis is clearly ok with personally telling people to fuck off or giving them the finger but "You need to give them the finger specifically and only the finger" is not what is being communicated...
Chiggs
Gold Member
I kind of thought it made him look petty. This whole thing smacks of resentment from the GN side of things.
Yeah, there's definitely an air of "I'm beyond reproach" to him. And too many people have blown smoke up his ass for far too long.
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winjer
Member
Honey is one of the biggest scams in the internet age and Linus was complicit with it. He knew about it and didn't warn neither consumers nor other youtubers.
And its not the first time he has shown to have no ethics and integrity.
Topher
Identifies as young
There is no need to get snarky.
Not just the finger, but clearly Louis definitely believes being offensive is the "proper" way to handle these things. I don't agree with that and I don't think GN does either.
I kind of get that. Steve (and Louis) seem to have appointed themselves the YouTube tech police. They pretty much have to be "beyond reproach" if that is the angle they are going to go with. Screw up one time and you are toast.
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kevboard
Member
he didn't unearth this, he found out by some guy on their forums telling his team that Honey replaces their affiliate cookies.
from his point of view, at that time, only the channel owners are getting fucked over, not the viewers, and he was not the source of this information.
this was clearly common enough knowledge that a random dude on their forums knew about it.
and the honey thing is the only case where GN has even remotely an argument against LTT, meanwhile most of the other stuff GN threw at LTT was misconstrued, ill informed and partly completely fabricated. and GN would have known that if they had journalistic integrity, which they have now shown that they don't have.
GN's credibility is fully destroyed by this situation.
LTT sure doesn't come out of this unscathed, but not making a big deal out of their cookies being replaced is far less of a fuck up than what GN did.
and LTT absolutely should sue GN at this point. they literally spread misinformation and refuse to correct it.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Are you talking about the "other stuff" that LTT already admitted to and went a week off YouTube to address?
winjer
Member
Linus found out Honey was stealing affiliate links and only made one post on their own forums, where it got buried for years.
He could have warned consumers and other youtubers, nut chose to be complicit with Honey.
Tams
Member
This.
Steve is very arrogant and condescending. Yes, he does his research ('brings the receipts' - I hate that phrase), but he does it in a way that inspires such vitriol for often relatively unimportant stuff.
Linus is not perfect, nor even that good, but he doesn't deserve the vitriol that can be seen even in this thread. You'd think he were a child abuser or something going by too much of the criticism (or rather hate).
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kevboard
Member
they didn't really admit to anything. they had to do damage control because GN blew minor issues completely out of proportion, and the more major misconduct accusations were entirely fabricated or misconstrued.
in the end, the main issue LTT had that were actually valid points GN had in their initial hitpiece was that their testing wasn't perfect... like... ok...
testing PC stuff is often messy, and errors happen... that's basically all the actual valid issues LTT had. error correction in tests, and better way to correct the errors. before they only posted corrections in the comments or with text overlays, now they edit their videos to have audible corrections, which is clearly better but it's not like their old way of doing things was horrible. it was just not optimal.
yeah, he could have made a bigger statement about it, but his point of view also makes sense.
a gigantic youtube channel telling you to not use a coupon extension because it harms their revenue could have backfire in their face.
because, again, at that point it wasn't known that honey also fucks over the users of the extension.
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winjer
Member
Why would it backfire? They had already ended their partnership with honey.
Sorry, but that sounds of a poor excuse, from a guy that has done bad things in the past.
Topher
Identifies as young
lol....they factually did.
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Kronark
Member
Maybe? My understanding was just a general message that if you cave to a bully they'll keep being a bully because it's beneficial. Louis personally tells bullies to fuck themselves but I don't think the offensiveness of the responce is the core component of what he's saying.
Most people did not know about this, that's why the Honey story blew up. Any claims that this was common knowledge are bullshit, it was at best whispered about in a few closed circles.
The fact is LTT promoted this malicious plugin for years, found out it was malicious, and did nothing to notify any of their audience that the plugin was in fact malicious. When cornered on why they didn't tell their audience at best Linus managed to fumble some excuse out about protecting their image and how mad people would be at Linus for telling them. Even in his own excuse he didn't do the right thing, he did the self interested thing to protect his image. I personally believe the excuse given was horseshit and Linus said nothing it's because it's a bad look for LTT to shit on a former sponsor. Other sponsors wouldn't look kindly on a channel that 180s on them and it was much more beneficial for him for this to just quietly go away.
All Steve did was point this out in a small 1 and a half minute segment of an hour and half video. LTT was never the primary focus, LTT was not named dropped to generate clicks. You'd have to be 16 minutes into the video to even start to hear about them. (Edit: It should also be noted that Linus was already defending himself about this because MegaLag who broke the story mentioned LTT first. Gamers Nexus wasn't even the outlet that involved LTT to begin with! )
Linus was the one who then played victim and blew this up into huge drama that Steve is getting blamed for.
Regardless of whether you like GN / Steve or not, he barely did anything and the blame he's getting for this seems insane.
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peish
Member
I cannot stand Steve anymore. He is one big narcissist acting self righteous.
Always so negative, condescending, holier than thou, 50% longer than it needs to be.
Just skimmed through his 5090 AIB videos, so much bitter writings.
I think he is suffering from male menopause.
Topher
Identifies as young
That's fair. Like I said before, Louis can be a bit of an asshole, but that doesn't mean he is wrong.
Astray
Member
I honestly think he is there already.
The channel is almost entirely drama now (he was clearly salivating for Linus to reply here) and any tech content that comes out has been subpar.
Topher
Identifies as young
If that's the case then it is a shame. He has been one of the more reliable tech channels.
ValiantInstance
Member
Steve is a nice guy. He just has no interest in making friends with big influencers. When he made the LTT hitpiece what really stuck out to me was Linus saying that he wished Steve had spoke to him first before publishing the video. He is under no obligation to do that and the only reason he would is to help his famous friend sweep some of the controversy under the rug.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I sincerely believe Linus and his people are a net negative to Youtube. In an age where misinformation moves at the speed of light, he has been chief at accelerating its spread in the tech space. I can't tell how many computer noobs who follow him I've seen who get a lot of stuff wrong because of this guy and his garbage videos. GN might be condescending and obnoxious to some, but their research and thoroughness gets an A+.
Oh, please. That's utter bullshit and a glance at their channel will tell anyone you're making shit up.
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Astray
Member
Is it?
When is the last time his channel did anything that isn't bog-standard tech review or drama?
That channel used to be way better than this, like WAY better.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
ValiantInstance
Member
His 20 million side channels release absolute garbage. They film it and get it out the door as quickly as possible. It took me years to get my Youtube algorithm to stop recommending me brainrot content from the likes of Short Circuit, Tech Quickie or the Mac channel.
I said it before here recently, I really don't understand what he is trying to do. What is the benefit of this aggressive growth beyond generating as much money as possible? He would have still had more money than he could count if he'd just kept it small, and he deserves the consequences.