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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3
- Thread starter MagicWithEarvin
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They're too fast to see any benefit through SATA.
They use PCIe M.2 slots instead, which are directly on the motherboard as you can see there, so unless you want them to run just as slow as other SSDs do, don't plug them into a SATA Port. SATA III is too slow.
If only 1TB+ SSD's were more affordable
SSHD 2TB is a nice solution. Gotta get one ready for the PRO
Check SSHD
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'm gonna wait on the 2.5 inch version of the first SSHD you linked. Seems like a major upgrade to my current 2TB drive.
Could you post a link to the one you have? I thought the new Firecuda SSHDs would be first that naturally would fit into a PS4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Tinúviel;220048444 said:
Backup and restore using an external drive.
RocknRola
Member
Ah, thanks. Saved me from doing a silly investment in the near future hehe
Need a new motherboard then, just have one PCIe slot open and not sure things can fit there confortably, despite those SSD's being super slender. Damn you, fat GPU's!Edit: Actually scratch that. Need a new motherboard, period. Just realized that the M.2 slots are their own thing and my current mobo definitely has none of that.
Backfoggen
Banned
If games are able to fully take advantage of it I will get a TB SSD immediately.
Devilinthiscity
Member
This will fit in the Pro right?
Logsi
Member
I know Trim not being enabled would cause problems.
ChasingComets
Member
GOTTA GO FAST
This will be very, very welcomed news if it is legitimate.
This will be very, very welcomed news if it is legitimate.
jetsetnickradio
Member
Finally, some good news about the PS4 Pro!
SATA3 was one of my most wanted features for the PS4 Pro.
Now if only more developers would get on board with supporting it beyond just upscaling to 4K. I'd love to see more AA and texture filtering applied to 1080p games.
SATA3 was one of my most wanted features for the PS4 Pro.
Now if only more developers would get on board with supporting it beyond just upscaling to 4K. I'd love to see more AA and texture filtering applied to 1080p games.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes it is 7mm.
People were claiming that the problem was speeds went through the USB2 interface even though the actual connection was a SATA2. Don't know if that's the problem or it's been fixed in the Pro.
All current SSD has their own built in trash collecting routine outside of the OS own. Not an issue.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yeah that is it. I think it was just announced today which explains why it isn't in stock there or even listed on most sites.
endlessflood
Member
I really don't know enough about how the PS4 operating system works to know if TRIM is really needed. I suppose it's complicated by the file system encryption.
It would be great if a site like Digital Foundry could do some digging around this, and look at what the implications are for SSDs.
CyberPunked
Member
The PS4 doesn't use SATA 3? Didn't SATA 3 come out in like 2009? Not exactly new tech.
Jezbollah
Member
Its not so much the interface, its about unit cost as per usual.
I think Sony now realise that larger capacity SSDs are now pretty affordable and people want to be able to use them in their PS4s.
The real question though would be if the PS4 Slim is SATA3.
No Sata2, but seeing as the PS4 came out in like 2013, this is not exactly new info.
chromatic9
Member
SATA II is 300mb/s
A typical HDD is around 80-150mb/s
Not much need for SATA III. Also if PS4 was truly SATA II you should see a huge benefit by saturating Sata II 300mb/s limit with a SSD but that doesn't seem to happen either so it's not as if simply adding sata III is going to magically not hold loading back like the myths portray. I even see people claim not being Sata III is holding stock PS4 back with its slow HDD.
Hopefully Sony fully support SATA III and get that 600mb/s
Too late, someone beat me to it yes that is the one.
fast_taker
Member
awesome news for ps4pro owners!!
boneyjangles
Member
I noticed someone talking about faster load times here...
http://twinfinite.net/2016/10/ps4-pro-didnt-change-my-life/
.. and that's just with the stock 1TB HDD. Maybe the CPU helps too.
In the first month or so I think the graphical improvements we see from the pro will be few and far between. But load times could be a noticeable improvement in every game.
http://twinfinite.net/2016/10/ps4-pro-didnt-change-my-life/
.. and that's just with the stock 1TB HDD. Maybe the CPU helps too.
In the first month or so I think the graphical improvements we see from the pro will be few and far between. But load times could be a noticeable improvement in every game.
panthapanda
Member
Man I still need to upgrade my 60GB SSD from my computer! LOL.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Nice. By the time I buy a Pro, 2TB SSDs should be reasonably priced.
Oh boy.... 480/512 gb ssds are quite cheap ( 100-130 euros) even MLC ones. Upgrading your 60gb if needed wont be that expensive. I still remember paying 350 euros for the Corsair Force GT 120gb. The feels
Can cheap SSDs even have more than like ten games installed at a time? Feels like a waste to be honest.
Much faster loading, for one.
Much faster loading, for one.
I thought SSHDs were the best thing short of SSDs, but at the same time, I vaguely recall hearing reports of SSHDs trailing in PS4 loading comparisons.
Does anyone have any info on this?
technozombie
Member
Anandtech has an article about new higher density, dramless drives coming soon at a lower cost. The drives will be slower and have a shorter life span, but would probably be perfect for a PS4 Pro and its SATA3 interface.
You're going to be looking at quite a bit more than that for 1TB.
No, because the drive itself is the bottleneck in that case.
SSDs are much faster. Speeds up loading times being the biggest deal when it comes to gaming.
The PS4 has a connector type that was old (SATA2) and the SSD performance on the console was wanting, so some people assume it is the connection type/speed's fault. So people are thinking that the PS4 Pro will get more benefit out of the SSDs.
Slower? That doesn't sound exciting. Slower than what?
With bloodborne I remember that there were a lot of articles about it.
searching for some info on HDD vs SSHD vs SSD i got:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
http://www.tested.com/tech/gaming/459128-tested-playstation-4-hard-drive-vs-ssd-vs-hybrid-drive/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
John Caboose
Member
That's good news. I'll probably go the SSD route for when it is time to upgrade to the Pro.
When I had the XBE (The one with the Solid State Hybrid Drive), I really didn't notice a difference in loading times. The only game that was quicker to load was Just Cause 3.
Normal hard drives are absolutely terrible at reading numerous small files quickly. Guess what types of files are games full of? SSDs do this as well as large file reading/writing much, much faster, resulting in a lot faster load times and possibly reduces any ingame stutters that could be caused by using more memory than is available (and thus using paging to the hard drive if the PS4 even uses anything like that). Plus no noise since SSDs contain no mechanical parts.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
So if you don't have a SSD it actually is worse?
No, a standard mechanical HDD will be a bottleneck even in SATA 2. You'll get the same speeds from those drives using SATA 3, you're just wasting more available bandwidth.
Essentially, in theory, this could significantly improve install/load times when a suitable drive is installed to the PS4 Pro. I'll be waiting for the inevitable DF comparison.
panthapanda
Member
Yeah I had to settle for the 60gb like in 2010-12 or something. Waited for a good deal and just completely forgot about it until now haha.
those windows 10 updates and iTunes iPhone software updates are killing me haha
The Hamburglar
Banned
Even if it supports sata3 there is no gaurentee that load times will be improved. Will need a df article.