....great. I would of been happy to just reinstall everything but now I have to do that
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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3
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....great. I would of been happy to just reinstall everything but now I have to do that
endlessflood
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The main question I have is why would Sony bother putting SATA III in a device where they're cutting major corners already (UHD Blu-ray) in order to keep the price marginally lower? If there's to be no tangible benefit, why wouldn't they shave a little off the BOM and go with SATA II again?
mhayze
Member
Because it's free. SATA III uses the same physical and electrical lanes as SATA II, and current silicon just natively implements SATA III at the building block level for SOCs. There is literally no cost to SATA III over SATA II today.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
At the same time would they gut the transfer bandwidth so much if they have SATA III? I am just confused on what the hell was the purpose of gutting it so much on SATA II as well.
DJ Lushious
Member
Until...?
Dash_Riprock
Member
Is the 2TB Firecuda back in stock anywhere yet?
The Elite
BOSS
Embargo is lifted.
So I am currently backing up my 2 TB HDD in my PS4 to an external drive. I want to install this 2 TB in the Pro when I get it.
Is this the correct software version to install when I put this HDD in the PRO?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/system-updates/ps4/
I don't see a PS4 PRO specific one to download.
Is this the correct software version to install when I put this HDD in the PRO?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/system-updates/ps4/
I don't see a PS4 PRO specific one to download.
The Elite
BOSS
Yeah That's the latest. I am guessing there won't be pro specific firmware.
You make it sound like they would go out of their way to make this happen, it is more than likely the result of something else done.
You need to click on "Do you want to perform a fresh install of the full system software? If so then click here" just under the download button otherwise you'll end up with a smaller sized firmware file which is meant for upgrading already existing firmware installed on your system.
Further down the page is the larger sized update file which allows you to install on a fresh drive.
endlessflood
Member
I didn't know that SATA II and III controllers were so similar. Given that the PS4 Pro hardware is so closely related to the PS4, why didn't the original PS4 use a SATA III controller as well then? If there's hardly any difference in controller complexity and SATA III as a standard was already years old, then it seems like a no-brainer.
Autofokus
Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Costs were likely different in 2013.
https://usauthor.playstation.com/en-us/support/system-updates/ps4/#newinstallation
Perform a New Installation of the System Software
the_milkybar_kid
Member
Having just built a PC with an SSD as the main drive, the load times are astonishing. But I've got a 3 and a 2 HHD for backups, The prices for anything above a 1TB SSD are quiet remarkable and given quite a lot of people are filling 1TB, you've got to way up the options.
chromatic9
Member
SATA III is like 6 years old now, they probably just eventually go with it at a manufacturing level. That's assuming what DF speculated is true and its the same old hampered design.
For PS4 in 2013 it doesn't matter as it comes with a slow HDD that's around 80-100mb/s. SATAII is 300mb/s. Sony don't expect anyone to add a SSD with those prices back then as well.
Even if PS4 Pro came with SATA II and actually saturated the connection using an SSD it would be a revelation in speed. This notion of SATAIII suddenly making HDD and SSD lighting fast as SATA II is holding everything back is false.
Lets hops Sony have included SATA III and noted how cheap a 1tb SSD is and can get 300-500mb/s.
Xbox Scorpio team should really take note of the amount of people into this and somehow utilize the speeds of up to 600mb/s. Could be a real selling point if PS4 is hampered even if a bit better than OG PS4. DF's Richard sounds like he knows its slow and giving a heads up but we'll find out soon.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Hence my question. I am really curious as of this particular design reasoning. I mean yes, maybe they didn't care during OG PS4 design phase, say in 2010-2011, but when designing the PRO Sony should have been able to predict rapidly dropping SSD prices.
99% of my owned games are digital, so this is great news to me providing the ps4 pro actually makes good use of it, I'm travelling soon so I ordered my ps4 pro to be delivered to where I'm going so I won't get to do tests until 15th or 16th, would much rather toss in a new sad/HDD hybrid or full ssd from the get go if its going to be a notable difference.
I suspect it may not make full use of it, and the ssd HDD hybrid may well make the most sense overall.
I suspect it may not make full use of it, and the ssd HDD hybrid may well make the most sense overall.
You can't do that with PS4 HDDs because the encryption of the drive is tied to the console. You need to back it up to an external drive, then do a fresh install in the Pro and restore your data after that.
really? that's some crazy BS. I gotta go out and find in 1 or 2 terabyte drive and restore that way. I really hate having to go through all this just to swap out a drive.
They're not separate. You can only have 1 activated at a time.
DjMystix
Member
It is still ultimately a PS4 so no, you will first have to deactivate your old console first before activating the new one.
edit: beaten.
They're not separate. You'll have to change primary consoles.
So many reviews and nothing that I've seen...
CadetMahoney
Member
I'm curious about benchmarks too, probably wait a little longer.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not yet, but John from DF (dark10x) said that since they only have the 1 Pro so far, they haven't but they sure will.
Lets wait a day or two.
Sniffynose
Member
If only these guys on YouTube that got them early had a brain and tested this stuff out instead of making videos showing the icons in 4k /facepalm
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
gotta get those youtube views m8 ( ͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Games Trader was saying it takes about 9 hours to transfer 395GB from one PS4 to another. If this is true, it will take 35 hours to transfer my 1.5TB I have on my current PS4 HDD.
https://youtu.be/QtBy0E3CIwU
Does it really take that long to transfer or is Games Trader is wrong?
https://youtu.be/QtBy0E3CIwU
Does it really take that long to transfer or is Games Trader is wrong?
Saw a video that took 250-isch GB 45 minutes via ethernet cable.
OMG looks like I will be deleting everything.
Poor me with my 10Mbit internet (Soon 250Mbit though). But this way is still faaaar faster then downloading all things again for me
Coma Ecliptic
Member
I just recently upgraded my PS4 to a 2TB drive and backed up 418GB to an external USB3 Seagate 2TB. It took total of 4 hours, Something is definitely not correct with that. I'm about to do my 500GB to the same drive again for the Pro. I'll let you know after I do it tomorrow, but again their numbers are off from my experience.
Confusatron
Member
I've been reading roughly the same. Hope this is true. Planning on getting home from work Thursday evening, putting in my new 2TB Firecuda, then starting the transfer.I've got about 400GB to transfer. Hopefully that gives me time to eat dinner, then get to the glorious 4K HDR gaming! Or maybe no HDR, I'll be playing Titanfall 2 first.
I think they were doing it over their network (both consoles linked to the same router) and maybe they are not on a gigabit router.
I heard of being possible to do it with firewire cable, should be way faster. Can anyone confirm that firewire is an option?
katsubento
Member
Wonder when someone will actually test this. Whoever does first will be our hero.
Gen.Grievous
Member
They probably used some old cat5 cable.
or some crazy old switch, 10MB ?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I wanna witness the beauty!