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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3

DBT85

Member
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I also cancelled my Ferrari because it wasn't available in the color of my desire and settled with a Renault.

lol
 

Pennywise

Member
The site I ordered the 4TB SSD from had difficulty getting stock so I ended up cancelling and getting the Firecuda instead. Oh well, some day that SSD will be mine.

Just wait and see until the first tests are in, I bet you'll be glad about it.
 
A lot of the PS4 saves are over 1/2 GB each, so it is not impossible to hit the 10GB cap with just PS4 games. You can easily hit the cap with 40-50 PS4 save files and for some games I have multiple saves going.
There are real egregious games where the save files can hit ~300 - 500 MB, as you've said. Sports games seems to be big offenders and any game that allows for the player to make multiple saves.

Personally, I'm sitting at 4.64 GB of locally stored saved data on my PS4.

What I've done to combat this is to regularly backup my saved data to a USB flash drive. And it's become way more manageable to do now since the latest feature firmware update. Sony finally implemented a "Select All" option for transferring saves.
 

n0razi

Member
My PS4 has shipped but I'm waiting for the 2TB Firecuda to go in stock now... It's gonna be sad if I get benchmarks before the rest of the internet
 

Pennywise

Member
I want the larger storage though.

Nobody here has it in stock and that makes me sad. :(

Just have some damn patience.
I don't get a new TV for some time either :p

You're acting like Wooden on Fifa, when he wasn't involved for a minute and just randomly fouls a player to get a red card.
 

Grimalkin

Member
Some of us had SSD's in our original PS4 and are hopeful Pro takes advantage. 1TB SSD waiting regardless of the results.

Yep yep, was just speaking for myself. :)

Just put in an order for a 2TB Firecuda on Amazon. It's back to unavailable so I hope I get by Thursday.

How? I have been watching for days and have the in-stock notifier set up and I got nothing.

Are you certain you didn't accidentally order the 3.5" one? Because I almost did that.
 

MrJames

Member
How? I have been watching for days and have the in-stock notifier set up and I got nothing.

Are you certain you didn't accidentally order the 3.5" one? Because I almost did that.

No, it's the ST2000LX001. It was never in stock but switched to temporarily out of stock so I got the order in. Looks like they are getting a shipment in but perhaps everyone bought up the allotment.
 

Traxtech

Member
I get my PS4 Pro in 25 and a half hours, I have a normal PS4 here as well so I can do a rough comparison in regards to SSD speed with 2 840 evos
 
Also, I'm not actually recommending anyone do this, but...since we now know the HDD inserts from the rear using a caddy, two ideas come to mind:

1. It's possible if you could find a replacement adapter for the caddy (or are skilled enough to disassemble the caddy) that you would definitely gain some drive clearance. Hard to say if it could hit 14/15mm without measuring tape though.

2. Since only a small piece of the rear case is removed, I have to think Nyko or somebody is going to come up with a replacement caddy that is empty and just houses an eSATA port. Would be a really simple way to connect whatever drive you want externally without messing up the look or frame of the system. Probably not hard to bake your own solution either, just need to pick the right eSATA/power cable lengths.

Does anyone with a Pro already have a 15mm 2.5 SATA drive? Do they fit without the caddy? Looks like you could install the drive and then just replace the plastic outer covering (of course if the removal of the caddy gives you enough space).
 

viHuGi

Banned
Has there not been any SSD speed tests with the Pro yet? Gotta see those Bloodborne load times.

At this point most of people have finished Bloodborne and move on tbh.

Would love a Pro Mode though to replay it with a different character.
 
Looks like the community will have to get to work on launch day. Are there other embargo's, this media blowout is more like a wet fart and that goes for selected youtubers. You'd think VITA TV had been launched again.
 

VertPin

Member
At this point most of people have finished Bloodborne and move on tbh.

Would love a Pro Mode though to replay it with a different character.

I sure hope a Pro patch is made available. 4K Bloodborne would be awesome, or a 1080p60fps (in my dreams, right?) would be excellent.
 
That really doesn't tie in with other people who have done it, the difference with this video is that they've chosen to run it through their router/switch which may well have a bearing on the length of time it took.
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The quicker ones seem to have done it via the other method of a single ethernet cable from one PS4 to the other and connecting online wirelessly.
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A lot of people seem to be doing it with a router/switch. I don't think we've been shown an example of a direct connection yet.
 

Traxtech

Member
I'd be fine with Bloodborne at 30fps. That's double the standard version's frame rate!

Makes me wonder if half the issue with frame rate is the ambient occlusion + fog/alpha effects(smoke, fog doors, fire etc) . Same thing happened on the original non sotfs pc version of dark souls 2 and the second you turned it off.. Frame rate wouldn't tank.
 
The best way to test SATA3 is pretty easy, just compare loadtimes on a stock PS4 vs. a stock Pro, in games without the patch. You could be more exact and make sure they have identical HDDs, but I'd guess players really just want to know if there's any difference in load time, at all, moving to a stock PS4 Pro.

Does anyone with a Pro already have a 15mm 2.5 SATA drive? Do they fit without the caddy? Looks like you could install the drive and then just replace the plastic outer covering (of course if the removal of the caddy gives you enough space).

The problem, I suspect is that at 15mm, if the drive does fit in sans-caddy that the connector may not be lined up properly (it would need to be fairly exactly placed). You would also want some grommets, maybe even putty or something to get it to sit properly and steadily. And some pulltape in case you have trouble pulling the drive out...first step in any case would be to measure the height of the drive bay.

Anyway the most popular 15mm drives are all externals so somebody would have to volunteer that is ready to crack open a spare, I think. Sadly I don't have anything of the sort to try.
 
The best way to test SATA3 is pretty easy, just compare loadtimes on a stock PS4 vs. a stock Pro, in games without the patch. You could be more exact and make sure they have identical HDDs, but I'd guess players really just want to know if there's any difference in load time, at all, moving to a stock PS4 Pro.



The problem, I suspect is that at 15mm, if the drive does fit in sans-caddy that the connector may not be lined up properly (it would need to be fairly exactly placed). You would also want some grommets, maybe even putty or something to get it to sit properly and steadily. And some pulltape in case you have trouble pulling the drive out...first step in any case would be to measure the height of the drive bay.

Anyway the most popular 15mm drives are all externals so somebody would have to volunteer that is ready to crack open a spare, I think. Sadly I don't have anything of the sort to try.

I could have sworn i read somewhere in ask this pro coverage, that peeps reported seemingly quicker load times already. But it's just glossed over.
 
I could have sworn i read somewhere in ask this pro coverage, that peeps reported seemingly quicker load times already. But it's just glossed over.

This is one of those things where review words don't really help. You need a stopwatch - or better yet, a side by side youtube video - because you can't expect big gains. But small gains all over the place are a good thing too. "Seems faster" is about as subjective as it gets. So hopefully DF and others get some time tables going.
 
I have two PS4's with Samsung 850 pros, so it'll be interesting to compare the results from base to pro.

Assuming Best Buy's status page is correct, I'll be picking my pros up tomorrow morning once they open.
 

PaNaMa

Banned
I was really hoping one of the sites or some lucky consumer (we know they're out there) would have posted some SSD results for PS4 Pro by now. I've got a cheap PNY 960GB SSD here just waiting for its new home on Thursday.
 
Gosh, you're right.
I clicked too fast!

It's a tough one because short of the word, the new Barracuda and Firecuda look almost identical at a glance. Equally weird is how Amazon (particularly .ca) will temporarily delist products they can't stock. Like the Firecuda 2TB, instead defaulting you to the Barracuda.
 
Post results here or do a thread.
I have to re-download everything, it might take a few hours. I'm only playing TF2, IW and MW:R. I have a 500mbps connection but I have a feeling PSN will be slammed due to new pro owners, just like every holiday.

I'll be playing on a Sony 940C, so can't wait to see how things look.
 

viHuGi

Banned
I have to re-download everything, it might take a few hours. I'm only playing TF2, IW and MW:R. I have a 500mbps connection but I have a feeling PSN will be slammed due to new pro owners, just like every holiday.

No Bloodborne or Witcher 3?

Maybe Fallout 4?
 
The best way to test SATA3 is pretty easy, just compare loadtimes on a stock PS4 vs. a stock Pro, in games without the patch. You could be more exact and make sure they have identical HDDs, but I'd guess players really just want to know if there's any difference in load time, at all, moving to a stock PS4 Pro.



The problem, I suspect is that at 15mm, if the drive does fit in sans-caddy that the connector may not be lined up properly (it would need to be fairly exactly placed). You would also want some grommets, maybe even putty or something to get it to sit properly and steadily. And some pulltape in case you have trouble pulling the drive out...first step in any case would be to measure the height of the drive bay.

Anyway the most popular 15mm drives are all externals so somebody would have to volunteer that is ready to crack open a spare, I think. Sadly I don't have anything of the sort to try.

I'm not too worried about it being secured, I can figure something out to solidify it, I'm concerned with it actually fitting and lining up. Hopefully someone does this test when they get their pro; I'm waiting on getting a hard drive until I know for sure that there is absolutely no way to fit a 4/5tb 15mm 2.5" drive in there. If it doesn't work then I'll jump on the 2tb firecuda bandwagon with everyone else.
 
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