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How South Park: The Fractured But Whole is fusing gags and gaming

Rich!

Member
Lol @ the people in this thread who think South Park is going to save them from bad humor in video games

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South Park is currently one of the best examples of on-point and clever writing on television, and the game is no exception.

The newest season of South Park was absolutely fantastic and was not only a achingly accurate breakdown of the many issues in today's culture (PC, gentrification, OTT politics), but also absolutely hilarious throughout. It was by far the freshest South Park has been in over a decade.

Unless you're the kind of person who incorrectly assumes South Park is still the same kind of humour it was back in 1997. It isn't.
 
South Park is currently one of the best examples of on-point and clever writing on television, and the game is no exception.

The newest season of South Park was absolutely fantastic and was not only a achingly accurate breakdown of the many issues in today's culture (PC, gentrification, OTT politics), but also absolutely hilarious throughout. It was by far the freshest South Park has been in over a decade.

Now I haven't played the Stick of Truth yet, but I have caught some of the latest South Parks. Calling it the "best examples of on-point and clever writing on television" is giving them far, far too much credit. Their episode on VR was just one joke repeated for the entire episode and ended limply. PC Principal is one of the most one note characters they've ever come up with, and the writing around that character is a terrible representation of people who actually care about those sorts of issues. While I believe it's to be mocking of the sorts of people who take it too far, I've had a number of conversations with people who think it's representative of the entirety of the PC movement. The fact that they ended the season with another "corporate entity" like their Walmart gag was also a bit disappointing.

Yep. Glad that Austin bloke left.

Ah, well that explains a bit.
 

Rich!

Member
Now I haven't played the Stick of Truth yet, but I have caught some of the latest South Parks. Calling it the "best examples of on-point and clever writing on television" is giving them far, far too much credit. Their episode on VR was just one joke repeated for the entire episode and ended limply. PC Principal is one of the most one note characters they've ever come up with, and the writing around that character is a terrible representation of people who actually care about those sorts of issues. While I believe it's to be mocking of the sorts of people who take it too far, I've had a number of conversations with people who think it's representative of the entirety of the PC movement. The fact that they ended the season with another "corporate entity" like their Walmart gag was also a bit disappointing.



Ah, well that explains a bit.

The whole point of PC Principal was to make fun of those who claim to be progressive and PC yet are only doing so to further their own personal gains. That's where the whole frat house side of things came into it. Safe to say, you completely missed the point - as did the guy from giant bomb.

And what do you mean about my post explaining a bit? You know absolutely nothing about me or my views, so please do not arrogantly presume that you do and judge me on your misconceptions. I do not like your tone, and I'm going to say right out that what you assume is wrong.
 
The newest season of South Park was absolutely fantastic and was not only a achingly accurate breakdown of the many issues in today's culture (PC

PC Principal is literally the worst character in the show's history.

South Park fought important battles for crude humor in the 90's, but once they effectively "won" Parker and Stone let it go to their heads and decided the world needed to hear their opinions on everything else, too. And - plot twist - they were actually terrible people all along.

If you think jokes like "what if Lorde... was a DUDE?" are hilarious, you're beyond saving.

My favorite PC Principal moment, by the way, is the one where the kids call him out on being mad that Jimmy used the word "retard" in the school paper, because it's the "I have a black friend" argument except repurposed for mental handicaps, and also their friend was an entirely fictional character. "Achingly accurate" my ass.

Yep. Glad that Austin bloke left.

Oh so you're insane, that explains it.
 

Rich!

Member
Stick of Truth was funny because it was made by Obsidian.

Uh what. They didn't write it. Trey Parker and Matt Stone wrote it. You just owned yourself.

Obsidian had nothing to do with the humour. But going by your last post, it's obvious you're determined to argue otherwise no matter how nonsensical and frankly pathetic your points are.
 

Rich!

Member
Do you think a developer well-known for its excellent writing had no editorial say whatsoever on a title they developed?

Matt and Trey wrote it, dude. They were also the producers. They have full creative control.

Stop the mental gymnastics, it's embarrassing.
 
Stop the mental gymnastics, it's embarrassing.

Actually "mental gymnastics" would be something like "ignoring literally every point someone has made to point out something that is only dubiously factually incorrect."

Backtrack all you want man, two out of the only three writers credited are Matt and Trey

So 33% of the writers are from Obsidian? I'm not seeing the issue with my statement.
 

Rich!

Member
Actually "mental gymnastics" would be something like "ignoring literally every point someone has made to point out something that is only dubiously factually incorrect."

Actually no, it's called your last few posts.

You seem to have an irrational hate for South Park. That's fine, but dont put it in the way of facts.
 
Actually no, it's called your last few posts.

You seem to have an irrational hate for South Park. That's fine, but dont put it in the way of facts.

So you're gonna ignore literally every point I've made and just call me biased.

Sounds like South Park!
 

DarkKyo

Member
PC Principal is literally the worst character in the show's history.

Hyperbole much? PC Principal is pretty sweet, and this is coming from someone who much prefers mid-series South Park(seasons 4-10 are the best imo). But yeah he's not even close to the worst South Park character. Worst has got to be something like the queef sisters, or maybe Oprah's vagina and ass. PC Principal is not even the worst newly introduced episodic continuity character... that title goes to Lorde from the previous season.. bleh.
 

Rich!

Member
So you're gonna ignore literally every point I've made and just call me biased.

Sounds like South Park!

Actually no, South Park has always shown both sides. But I digress, this is a pathetic argument and is shitting up this thread. If you don't like it, fine. Go elsewhere.

I'm personally glad that South Park is still around and Trey and Matt are able to speak their minds without being censored and muffled. Offended by them? That's the real world, son.
 

N° 2048

Member
You'd think someone dressed up in a Cartman suit burned down Doctor Ironic's house or something.

Dude has this immense hate for South Park apparently.
 
I would sincerely like to be enlightened as to how a game that has the title "The Fractured But Whole" is expected to be the savior of humor and clever writing in games.
 

Rich!

Member
I would sincerely like to be enlightened as to how a game that has the title "The Fractured But Whole" is expected to be the savior of humor and clever writing in games.

I would also like to be enlightened at how you are taking it at purely face value.

It could be called "The Glorious Shit Cunt Ass Game" and I wouldn't give a fuck as long as the game was good and the writing in the game was on point.

The game is called The Fractured But Whole because it's crass and Trey and Matt realised they could get away with it. That's literally all there is to it.

The fact that people are apparently upset by the title makes it hilarious to me. Don't like it? Fucking move on and enjoy something else, jesus.
 

Warxard

Banned
Brilliant argument there.

Getting tired of the shitposting around here. Sigh.

After watching the design process of how each South Park episode is done the 'cleverness' of the writing has diminished greatly for me. I don't believe the fact that Trey/Matt can get away with what they do automatically justifies the writing to be 'good.'

I also don't really like the direction of the show being geared more towards flavor of the week pop culture jabbing instead of like, making a farce out of the cast itself like the series used to do way back when. So to me South Park nowadays is just Orgasmo-tier snooze session.

I also watch / a lot of TV/ so I just simply find that statement fucking hilarious. It's not that deep.

the game was extremely well written as is easily one of the comedy games in terms of writing.

Yeah when there's no competition in regards to writing good humor in videogames it's not surprising.
 

HonMirin

Member
I'll be totally honest, I literally just got the butthole joke. I thought the 'Fractured But Whole' title was showing the irony of the Avengers squabbling, falling out and being absolute twonks to each case other but still seeing themselves as a crew.

Butthole is funnier.
 
I would also like to be enlightened at how you are taking it at purely face value.

It could be called "The Glorious Shit Cunt Ass Game" and I wouldn't give a fuck as long as the game was good and the writing in the game was on point.

The game is called The Fractured But Whole because it's crass and Trey and Matt realised they could get away with it. That's literally all there is to it.

The fact that people are apparently upset by the title makes it hilarious to me. Don't like it? Fucking move on and enjoy something else, jesus.

You realize that you're the one being offended and upset? I was asking out of interest; I haven't seen South Park in ten years. I quite enjoyed it as a teenager but never really had the opportunity to revisit it.

I respected you highly-- because of you, Retroarch is on my Dropbox for seamless access between my phone and computers, with custom overrides and shaders per game-- but you can cool it with the attitude.
 
anyone who doesn't find the game's title funny is not my friend, guy.

Hyperbole much? PC Principal is pretty sweet, and this is coming from someone who much prefers mid-series South Park(seasons 4-10 are the best imo). But yeah he's not even close to the worst South Park character. Worst has got to be something like the queef sisters, or maybe Oprah's vagina and ass. PC Principal is not even the worst newly introduced episodic continuity character... that title goes to Lorde from the previous season.. bleh.

I, for one, wish their original plan for that episode (where the boys would just sit and watch the Queef Sisters episode) to become a reality. Or, at the very least, have them cameo in this, heheh. I want to see SP Canada's take on superheroes.

Barring Jimmy, it seems like most of my favorite characters are the ones everyone hates (Canada-related people, Nathan and Mimsy, the Jakovasaurs, etc.). Maybe I just click with Matt/Trey's brand of dumb humor more than most.

nathan and mimsy supervillains plz
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Stick of Truth started out pretty slow (the sendup of western RPGs wasn't really too interesting though with all the Japanese RPG parodies that have been popular through the years it was about time someone did a parody of western ones) but progressively got more and more ridiculous and over the top that it became one of the best western RPGs I've ever played. Even if the gameplay was very unbalanced and broken.

Excited to see how the sequel plays out, even if Obsidian isn't developing.
 
Wasn't the point behind the Lorde joke originally that Randy cheaped out at getting her to perform at Stan's house so just pretended to be her? Then people claimed it was transphobic so they went full on the episode afterwards with Randy being a metaphor for trans and people learning to treat them with respect?

Saying the joke was LOL LORDE IS A MAN seems to be dumbing things down a bit.
 
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