Dr.brain64
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Could 343 make other games? Will ms let them?
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I can't see how anyone could give 343 a chance on Halo Infinite after Halo 5. They have made only one tolerable game in their entire existence.
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SenjutsuSage
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343i has made the best Halo game to date, Halo 4. Halo 5's story was transitional in nature to setup the rest of the universe events, and the gameplay felt amazing. Loved squad commands also. The more 343i puts their own twist on the Halo Formula, the more exciting it gets. I think they are better for Halo than Bungie is.
OP sounds like a fanboy who hasn't even played the games or was never going to get Halo Infinite. I'm happy 343i are at the helm.
OP sounds like a fanboy who hasn't even played the games or was never going to get Halo Infinite. I'm happy 343i are at the helm.
Chairman Tickles
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Halo has been kill since Halo 3 as far as I'm concerned.
Halo 4? Halo 5? What is that? It simply doesn't exist.
Halo 4? Halo 5? What is that? It simply doesn't exist.
SatansReverence
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Surely you forgot the /S right?
mcz117chief
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Reach, Odst and Wars are all good though.
Exactly. I recently bought 5 because people kept telling me the multiplayer is amazing despite them not playing it since release (major lol "so why don't you play it?") and it took a long time to find matches, on the other hand I can find matches in MC Collection almost instantly.
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KingdomHeartsFan
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I mean its not like there's been any game that can replace Halo so I will probably always looks forward to a new release and pray they don't fuck it up.
That being said Halo 5 showed 343 have no clue what they were doing, it wasn't because they ran out of time, they couldn't even get the fundamentals right, the gameplay in Halo 5's campaign is garbage, and the entire direction they took the series sucked. I'm hoping the team got rearranged so the same mistakes don't happen again and the people that are in the same position actually listen to the community.
That being said Halo 5 showed 343 have no clue what they were doing, it wasn't because they ran out of time, they couldn't even get the fundamentals right, the gameplay in Halo 5's campaign is garbage, and the entire direction they took the series sucked. I'm hoping the team got rearranged so the same mistakes don't happen again and the people that are in the same position actually listen to the community.
Nice heheYour last prediction was that Stadia was going to be a runaway success
KingdomHeartsFan
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You can't be serious. The gameplay is by far the worst in any Halo game. In Bungie's games you can run and gun on legendary and feel like a badass, in Halo 5 the ONLY effective option to combat on legendary is grabbing a long distance gun and hiding behind something.
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Deleted member 775630
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It's not really a popular opinion, but I actually liked Halo 5. SP, the story, the way it was told, and the gameplay, I all loved it. MP was the best MP game until Apex Legends was released.
Heinrich
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It had one of the best MPs though and that’s what most care about when playing a shooter.
CyberPanda
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Higher than Death Stranding too. OP can eat a pee pee.
fuck off OP.
CyberPanda
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imsosleepy
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I strongly believe that games like halo should just create a full single player experience for 60 bucks and then release multiplayer seperatly and also charge money for that. Maybe thats the only way we can get multiplayer games who stil have a great single player campaign.
Halo 5 campaign was so fucking bad its unbelievable. imagine if that one came out now on the next gen. you wait so many years, u hear so many hyped up talks from the xbox team about it and then u play fucking halo 5 campaign. And when ur done u think ''wait that was it? Fuck u''''
The halo ip is amazing, but lets be real. the focus is multiplayer and single player has become just something extra. halo 5 multiplayer was amazing, singleplayer just sucked ass
lets hope halo infinite is different but I doubt it
Halo 5 campaign was so fucking bad its unbelievable. imagine if that one came out now on the next gen. you wait so many years, u hear so many hyped up talks from the xbox team about it and then u play fucking halo 5 campaign. And when ur done u think ''wait that was it? Fuck u''''
The halo ip is amazing, but lets be real. the focus is multiplayer and single player has become just something extra. halo 5 multiplayer was amazing, singleplayer just sucked ass
lets hope halo infinite is different but I doubt it
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Shangounchained
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All their halo games are terrible, playstation had killzone graphically 100x better than halo 5 till this day i ask myself how they used the big budget given by microsoft to make that rubbish game, complete fraud,
of all the shooters since my existence ive always thought of halo being top of it all but seems those idiots couldnt do shit on a 8gb console and deffienetely after seeing the halo infonote teaser cannot do shit on next gen consoles
of all the shooters since my existence ive always thought of halo being top of it all but seems those idiots couldnt do shit on a 8gb console and deffienetely after seeing the halo infonote teaser cannot do shit on next gen consoles
Syn Marnotrawny
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THIS. That's the problem with both Halo and Gears. There are a lot of try-hards in those games and people are just discouraged after getting no kills. Face it - you are just casuals who prefer to pew pew in destiny or cod.
SatansReverence
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They get as much respect as they deserve.
I got onyx while playing with 1 hand. Halo 5 isn't "difficult" at all.
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Butz
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Because KZ is targeting 30fps and H5 is targeting 60.
That said, Halo 5 is still a better game than Shadow Fall lol
Shangounchained
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Doom is 60 fps and looks better than halo 5, battlefield, call of duty are both 60 fps have 100x the graphics than halo 5, your excuses are meaningless 343 are losers the last good halo game i played was 3 and after that they couldnt catch the vibe of the first 2 games.
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Deleted member 775630
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I don't think they are the losers here...
Butz
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Yeah they look better on a PC, not on a base Xbox lol
bumleforce
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If Halo 5 had never had the 5 in it it would have been considered a great game like odst or reach. The story is bad but the level design is still top notch better than most fps games out there. Beating the game solo Legendary was ot easy epecially when you fight the boss that splits into 3.
SleepDoctor
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People still take this guy's bait? Lol
Before joining, just seeing his posts then i already had a legit concern for his mental health
Before joining, just seeing his posts then i already had a legit concern for his mental health
Shangounchained
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on any console whether ps4 or xbone and stop diverting the narrative here u have no substancial evidence just spouting whatever you can to avoid ur loss, saying a game looks better on pc is irrelevant any game would look better on pc fact of the matter here is that doom eternal and cod all run at 60fps on a base xbox one with all the action and at 1080p hate it or love ut halo 5 is cowshit
Shangounchained
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They are losers, how can u take a franchise like halo and fuck it up, its like giving ur sibling a controller and telk him to finish a boss fight which youve already taken 98% of health away and he fails miserably. Somehow microsoft invests in developers who have no clue what they are doing.
Bergoglio
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Halo Infinite is their last chance.
How do you change someone’s perception about Halo? Most adults gamers are pretty skeptical, so you can’t change their perception about something by just telling them to think differently. Facts? No one seems to believe them anymore; which ones can you trust? Opinion is colored by personal experience – people have to see something or experience it to believe it. Even kids have perceptions about Halo, not always formed by their own personal experience, but rather by the experiences of those closest to them whom they trust.
Halo infinite is really THEIR LAST CHANCE TO BE RELEVANT in the industry.
How do you change someone’s perception about Halo? Most adults gamers are pretty skeptical, so you can’t change their perception about something by just telling them to think differently. Facts? No one seems to believe them anymore; which ones can you trust? Opinion is colored by personal experience – people have to see something or experience it to believe it. Even kids have perceptions about Halo, not always formed by their own personal experience, but rather by the experiences of those closest to them whom they trust.
Halo infinite is really THEIR LAST CHANCE TO BE RELEVANT in the industry.
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DonF
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dev time ≠ Quality
example, Duke nukem forever.
I agree, they don't seem to know exactly what halo is. They don't know how to push the franchise forward. They will make a competent game, that will have good sales numbers, but thats it. Its not going to be a phenomenon like the original halo 1, 2 and even 3.
example, Duke nukem forever.
I agree, they don't seem to know exactly what halo is. They don't know how to push the franchise forward. They will make a competent game, that will have good sales numbers, but thats it. Its not going to be a phenomenon like the original halo 1, 2 and even 3.
LordClansman
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I honestly don't see what's wrong with Halo 5, I thought it was a fun game, just like the rest of the franchise. Where do you people see these HUGE differences is beyond me.
SquillieDee
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I mean, I hear what your saying. The problem is, if they didn't add any of those things, people would say its stuck in the past, since they did add it, the old skool Halo fans feel like they ruined it. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't. I really enjoy having sprint, clamber, ground pound and shoulder charge, it just makes it feel more fast paced and fun to me. I think they did a good job of making those things work within Halo. For instance, if your shield is down and you sprint, your shield will not recharge until your stop sprinting. If you ADS, and get shot, you will get kick out of ADS. Things like that make it feel modern and still have the Halo feel, to me.
IMO, what makes Halo special is the weapons, the way grenades bounce off walls or stick, the vehicles, the melee etc. I think it was very smart of them to modernize Halo so it didn't get stale. I think for the Halo purist (which I am also), just play MCC. There are so many good classic Halo games in that package, there should be enough to satisfy everyone that prefers the older style Halo games. With Infinite, hopefully they can find a good balance to satisfy both sides, I definitely do not want to see them lose the modern things that they added to Halo 5.
Shangounchained
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They didnt have to change perception, changing perception is why most franchises die its called fucking up, nintendo never changed perception and its why they are successful we loved halo they way it was and they could always improve on it and all they did is exactly fuck it up, telling us it cost 400 million $ to make only to bring garbage out.
SquillieDee
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Press X to survive-I have no idea what that is.
Endless needless animations-The execution animations are awesome!
Aim assist more cancerous than Halo 2- Never noticed it.
Sprint-Sprint is great, playing older Halo feels very slow to me now. Your shield doesn't recharge when you sprint so you can't spam it. I see no issue with it.
Gigantic maps-There are a BUNCH of arena sized maps
clamber trash-clamber is great addition, I don't see how that can be a bad thing.
etc etc etc.-???????
We are going to have to agree to disagree...
Shangounchained
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Nobody ever said mario is stuck in the past yet they still sell millions every year we dont need a change in halo classic, the biggest mistake in game design is not sticking to the plan, this is what has fucked alot of series like the terminator franchise and so on.
VertigoOA
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Complaints about sprint ...
If I can’t sprint and slide in a modern shooter ... NEXT! It’s not going anywhere nor should it. It’s like complaining about snipers. When you know the lanes and choke points, a slide is your best option at escaping that lane without getting sniped. More movement options is also great. Hell, to some extent I want wall-running in every sci-fi shooter post Titanfall.
ADS is a great new standard as well. It lends itself more to the console space of course because you’ll never have the super human precision of a m&kb setup.
No, they should not go backwards. And they won’t. 343 maybe a shit tier development studio but Microsoft will continue to fire and rebuild until they get it right even when 343 destroyed the Ip to the point of irrelevancy already.
If I can’t sprint and slide in a modern shooter ... NEXT! It’s not going anywhere nor should it. It’s like complaining about snipers. When you know the lanes and choke points, a slide is your best option at escaping that lane without getting sniped. More movement options is also great. Hell, to some extent I want wall-running in every sci-fi shooter post Titanfall.
ADS is a great new standard as well. It lends itself more to the console space of course because you’ll never have the super human precision of a m&kb setup.
No, they should not go backwards. And they won’t. 343 maybe a shit tier development studio but Microsoft will continue to fire and rebuild until they get it right even when 343 destroyed the Ip to the point of irrelevancy already.
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ResilientBanana
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I agree with everything here except the comments about 343. Halo 5 while flawed, still had fantastic Multiplayer even though the Campaign and Game Engine were to be desired. I do, however, think that they have their feet in the fire and will deliver a memorable experience with Halo Infinite. Personally, I did like Halo 4's campaign but the MP was abysmal.
SatansReverence
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Obviously a potato tier player hence why you think anything in that list is good or are apparently too clueless to understand it.
SquillieDee
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Mario is COMPLETELY different than it used to be. There was Mario Brother, Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario 2, Super Mario 3, Super Mario Land, Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, I could go on. All of theres VASTLY different games... I don't think your comparison is a good one.
SquillieDee
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I mean, I guess... I think I'm pretty good, but if those things make me potato tier than so be it. I play video games for fun, not for a profession...
Nikana
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Luckily for you, we have a game for you. Halo 2.
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Shangounchained
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Your comparing a graphics revolution, 2d-3d and less powerful machine to more powerful machine, halo was still in 3d on the xbox it is still on 3d machines on xbox one today and will be tomorrow and itll still be shitter than the first 2 not mario,as mario nintendo games are as childish as theyve always been and even when nintendo of america tried to mature the brand nintendo japan stopped them. Lesson is stick to the basics.Mario is COMPLETELY different than it used to be. There was Mario Brother, Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario 2, Super Mario 3, Super Mario Land, Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, I could go on. All of theres VASTLY different games... I don't think your comparison is a good one.
Syn Marnotrawny
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What were you doing with the other hand? Writing this bullshit or wanking?
I'll leave this for H5 haters
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Burrito Bandito
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As a massive Halo fan, i have very little faith. BUT there is reason to be hopeful.
Halo 5 MP ended up being actually pretty good (not halo 1,2,3 good but still). I thought the maps were trash and it lacked the social aspect that the bungie games had. Although i blame the advent of party chat
for destroying ALL console social interactions.
But they have been working on it for 5 years with likely an unlimited budget and I cant say what staff changes they have made from Halo 5. But if they can launch with stellar maps, Halo 5 or perhaps even bungie era mechanics, and a rewarding ranking system (ala Overwatch) then it could be a smash hit
Halo 5 MP ended up being actually pretty good (not halo 1,2,3 good but still). I thought the maps were trash and it lacked the social aspect that the bungie games had. Although i blame the advent of party chat
for destroying ALL console social interactions.
But they have been working on it for 5 years with likely an unlimited budget and I cant say what staff changes they have made from Halo 5. But if they can launch with stellar maps, Halo 5 or perhaps even bungie era mechanics, and a rewarding ranking system (ala Overwatch) then it could be a smash hit
Nickolaidas
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I have played halo 1,2 and 3 and (for me) don't blow a candle to halo 5. Really can't see the hate here, but I guess all those must be shitting on 343 for a reason.
Decontamination Silo
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343 seems to lack the visionary employees that push a game from competent to great. All the budget and dev time in the world can't make up for the special individuals who are able to push greatness.