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for the record, I don't hate DS2, I just believe the other 4 are superior in everything except in character creation.
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I don't care what you've heard, watched or read. PLAY DARK SOULS 2 before you die
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Killer Queen
Banned
Nashandra was probably the most disappointing boss in the whole series. Took her out in one try and was incredibly surprised that that was it.
Build diversity was great, and I even enjoyed the lore, story, and NPCs.
That level design though, yikes. I liked Heide's Tower of Flame for the vistas and The Gutter for its uniqueness, otherwise I can't think of a single area I'd enjoy revisiting. Majula was an inspired design, though.
At least Dark Souls had Anor Londo, Forbidden Forest, Archives, Undead Berg, Sen's Fortress, etc.
That level design though, yikes. I liked Heide's Tower of Flame for the vistas and The Gutter for its uniqueness, otherwise I can't think of a single area I'd enjoy revisiting. Majula was an inspired design, though.
At least Dark Souls had Anor Londo, Forbidden Forest, Archives, Undead Berg, Sen's Fortress, etc.
CountAntonius
Member
This, Dark Souls 2 isn't a bad game, it's just the weakest in the Souls Series.
I agree on build variety OP, but there's a reason as to why you didn't mention the bosses, lore, and hitboxes.
Agree with this. I kind of have a love/hate relationship with it but I've grown to love it. I will say that I really don't like the Scholar of the first Sin version and would suggest people play the vanilla version with all of the dlc. Just really hated the enemy placements in scholar.
Scholar of the First Sin edition, you can Fight a Boss after Nashandra as well
Aldia
UnlimitedRulebook
Member
I beat DS2 back on PS3, remember thinking it was fine at the time but didnt bother with the dlc. Ive since gotten SOTFS on current gen and I cant get more than a few bosses deep without putting it down. The movement feels so bad compared to the other Souls games I dont know how I ever finished it in the first place.
That one is pretty meh too though.
Spacejaws
Member
You know what is awesome about the Soul series? Is that it is heavily debatable which ones are the best out of the entire series. Generally a big series will have the obvious dud or accepted loser of a great series (Metal Gear Solid 4? Sunshine? Skyward Sword?) but Souls seems like everybody is completely devided for different reasons and it seems like a huge testemant to how much quality is in the series in general.
Demon Souls is life! Hope the others die in a fire! FIGHT ME!
mrmickfran
Member
As someone who loves the role-playing aspect of these games, Dark Souls 2 is my favorite in the series (and Bloodborne my least favorite, fwiw). I remember being slightly disappointed my first playthrough because the game world is not as genius and memorable as DS1. But DS2 is so vast, with so many awesome weapons and outfits and secrets and play styles, that at this point it is easily my most played Souls game. RPG elements are important, Im here for fashion Souls! And I dont think the gameplay was any worse than the other games, just a bit slower and more methodical.
old manatee
Banned
Dark Souls 2 has the best spellcaster build of any Souls game.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I played DS2 for like 10 minutes at a friend's house. Sadly after experiencing Bloodborne I don't think I can even bother with DS2 (assuming I'll ever even manage to beat BB lol). The art direction in BB and DS3 just take a massive shit over DS2.
Polioliolio
Member
Hmehhh... Majula is a great theme though.
It's not a bad game, but it really tarnishes, at the very least, the consistency of the souls series, in that it feels quite a bit off in so many ways compared to the others.
It's not a bad game, but it really tarnishes, at the very least, the consistency of the souls series, in that it feels quite a bit off in so many ways compared to the others.
MasterMenace
Member
I beat DS2 more times than all the other souls games because I played it again on PS4 with my friend lol...that said, its easily the worst from soft soulsborne game.
But compared to other games, its very good lol.
That said and all...
The main problem with DS2 is that it lost the magic of DS1 which was the interconnected world. DS2 has Majula, and while it was a peaceful place, it just didnt have that map magic that DS1 had...and that was HUGE FACTOR whether you realize it or not. Id say 75% of how good DS1 is because how the world was structured.
Also, DS2 is a very bloated game, too many samey bosses, too many areas...uninspired areas as well, too many weapons, etc.
I just hope From Software makes a BB2 or a new game.
But compared to other games, its very good lol.
That said and all...
The main problem with DS2 is that it lost the magic of DS1 which was the interconnected world. DS2 has Majula, and while it was a peaceful place, it just didnt have that map magic that DS1 had...and that was HUGE FACTOR whether you realize it or not. Id say 75% of how good DS1 is because how the world was structured.
Also, DS2 is a very bloated game, too many samey bosses, too many areas...uninspired areas as well, too many weapons, etc.
I just hope From Software makes a BB2 or a new game.
hahaha 😂 Recommend they plug a PS4 instead tho
breadtruck
Member
Hmm.
Ive considered your request.
NO.
Ive considered your request.
NO.
While it had its good moments, I found it largely sort of unremarkable? It's not bad or anything, but I liked Demon's and Dark 1 a lot more (still need to play Dark 3 and Bloodborne).
Quick Question though: did anyone else accidentally end up at the Throne of Want after getting the King's Ring? I wasn't following a guide or anything, so I just went the to first place I could think of to try out the ring. As I had no idea what I was doing, I headed down the pathway and encountered Throne Watcher and Throne Defender, who I somehow managed to beat on my first try (100% luck, I am by no means a good souls player..... at all).
I just find it weird that to me the most memorable thing about the game was the shear sense of confusion I felt when, after finally taking down those guys (I play a very slow and defensive character, so it took a long time, especially as they can heal each other), the game just did not acknowledge it in the slightest. There was no cutscene, there was no item drop, there was no 'primal bonfire', there was no explanation.I felt that for what seemed like a 'big climatic area' with such a long pathway to it, there was just *nothing*. Did From Software just not think that anyone would head down that way?
Quick Question though: did anyone else accidentally end up at the Throne of Want after getting the King's Ring? I wasn't following a guide or anything, so I just went the to first place I could think of to try out the ring. As I had no idea what I was doing, I headed down the pathway and encountered Throne Watcher and Throne Defender, who I somehow managed to beat on my first try (100% luck, I am by no means a good souls player..... at all).
I just find it weird that to me the most memorable thing about the game was the shear sense of confusion I felt when, after finally taking down those guys (I play a very slow and defensive character, so it took a long time, especially as they can heal each other), the game just did not acknowledge it in the slightest. There was no cutscene, there was no item drop, there was no 'primal bonfire', there was no explanation.I felt that for what seemed like a 'big climatic area' with such a long pathway to it, there was just *nothing*. Did From Software just not think that anyone would head down that way?
That one is pretty meh too though.
That music tho.
anothertech
Member
Haha its Opposite Day!
That one is pretty meh too though.
Yeah especially if you have a decent bow. I dont even remember rolling once in that fight, was really let down after vendrick.
Muffin1611
Banned
This myth that hitboxes aren't often faulty in DS1 is still a thing huh
And DS2 is just as good when it comes to lore.
That's the same area you fight the final boss, but you need a key item for that by clearing other areas first. You can either defeat the Throne Watcher and Defender early and then just fight the final boss alone later, or if you hold off on it, you fight them and the last boss in direct succession.
xviper
Member
Dark souls 2 had the best PvP in the series, it's what makes it shine above the rest, but MP eventually dies in every game, and DS2 MP is probably dead by now, i think Dark souls 2 is much better than the awful lazy sequel that is Dark souls 3, Dark souls 2 had the biggest content in the series
but Dark souls 2 is not even close to how good Demon's souls, Dark souls 1 and Bloodborne are
there is an indie game called Salt and Sanctuary, as a Soulsborne veteran who played since Demon's souls, Salt and Sanctaury is much better and more original than Dark souls 3, if you like soulsborne series then you MUST play Salt and Sanctuary
one last thing, no game is perfect ? that is where you are wrong, OP, because Resident evil 4 exist
but Dark souls 2 is not even close to how good Demon's souls, Dark souls 1 and Bloodborne are
there is an indie game called Salt and Sanctuary, as a Soulsborne veteran who played since Demon's souls, Salt and Sanctaury is much better and more original than Dark souls 3, if you like soulsborne series then you MUST play Salt and Sanctuary
one last thing, no game is perfect ? that is where you are wrong, OP, because Resident evil 4 exist
clarknova156
Member
It has and will continue to baffle me why GAF hates DS2 so much. I enjoyed the fuck out of it.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
I don't get the hate for the game, but I really don't get the recent hype over it either.
It's a very good game. Not as good as DS1, 3 or Bloodborne. But still very good. A good Souls game, too. I'd rank it above Demon's Souls, but that's because I'm stupid and can't appreciate that game as much as I want to.
It's a very good game. Not as good as DS1, 3 or Bloodborne. But still very good. A good Souls game, too. I'd rank it above Demon's Souls, but that's because I'm stupid and can't appreciate that game as much as I want to.
Killer Queen
Banned
I'm not sure what's lazier, this post or the tired notion that Dark Souls 3 is somehow a lazy sequel.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
daTRUballin
Member
Inb4 all the edgy Id rather die before playing Dark Souls 2 posts.
.........Im probably way too late, right?
.........Im probably way too late, right?
Patrick Young
Member
No thanks. I hated that first game. You couldn't even pause.
Besides, Mario's coming out next week.
Besides, Mario's coming out next week.
Randall365
Member
Certain areas were great - I loved the anor londo type one, the giants battlefield, even the gulch.
The end was weak though I thought - all that dragon bullshit and going back to the castle.
The way in which it did not explain how you needed the giant souls was abysmal.
The end was weak though I thought - all that dragon bullshit and going back to the castle.
The way in which it did not explain how you needed the giant souls was abysmal.
It's 99 or 104. 100 gives you no new iframes.
Benzychenz
Member
Build variety and PVP aren't important to a lot of people and it has the worst enemies, boss fights and level design of the series, by far.
The Spoony Hou
Member
I'm not really interested in the Souls games, but maybe I'll try them one day.
Is any version of DS2 close to the original (before downgrade) version shown?
Is any version of DS2 close to the original (before downgrade) version shown?