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It's time to move away from Firefox (UP: Mozilla clarified the language in the ToS)

Tams

Member
I kinda hate myself for moving to Chromium but downloaded Brave and wow. It's so much faster!

The built in adblocker seems to be good too.

It's a bit bloated with all the AI, crypto shit etc but I disabled it all.

Fuck it. I think I'll just stick with it.

If you like Brave but not the crypto and AI shite, then try Vivaldi.

Some of the devs are a bit woke (promoting Mastodon and some of their search engine partners), but it isn't pushed on you.
 

Makoto-Yuki

Gold Member
The solution is incredibly simple. Just install Waterfox or LibreWolf, which are versions that strip out all the Mozilla stuff. Alternatively, use BetterFox: https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

Bonus: Waterfox includes a version of BetterFox by default.
I went to Librefox. Apparently Waterfox sold out to an ad company (think not owned by them anymore but still).

LibreWolf is good but the anti fingerprinting makes sites uses light mode and you have to resize the browser window every time you open it. I installed dark reader to get back the dark mode so wasn’t a major issue. It’s a compromise you have to make for better privacy I guess.

The thing is if Firefox disappears then so does LibreWolf and Waterfox. LibreWolf is the way to go for now but the way Mozilla are going then who knows how long Firefox will last.

I gave Brave a try and I’m sticking with it. Yes it’s chromium. And it’s for a bunch of bloat like wallet, vpn, ai shit on it but I disabled it all. Brave is a lot faster and smoother than Firefox. Websites load up much quicker.

The built in adblocker is good. And the anti fingerprinting doesn’t break anything so I’m happy. I don’t know if I will stick with Brave long term but I can’t be bothered setting up a new browser again.
 

Makoto-Yuki

Gold Member
Neither Chrome nor Brave is an optimal choice imo. You ought to start digging around for browser forks with open source code in repos.
I loved Firefox but I'm done with it. Unless I'm mistaken everything else is Chromium. I'm quite happy with Brave right now (just moved over yesterday).

Gave LibreWolf a shot but it's slow and stuff breaks.

Not sure what else there is. If Firefox goes down the shitter then the forks of it will go too.

I will admit I had a hate boner for Chromium for years but like I said Brave is quite good. It can block plenty of ads just as good as uBlock so that's the main thing for me. Out of all the Chromium browsers I feel like it might be the best. I haven't gave the actual ungoogled chromium a shot though but I might run it in a sandbox to try it out.
 
I loved Firefox but I'm done with it. Unless I'm mistaken everything else is Chromium. I'm quite happy with Brave right now (just moved over yesterday).

Gave LibreWolf a shot but it's slow and stuff breaks.

Not sure what else there is. If Firefox goes down the shitter then the forks of it will go too.

I will admit I had a hate boner for Chromium for years but like I said Brave is quite good. It can block plenty of ads just as good as uBlock so that's the main thing for me. Out of all the Chromium browsers I feel like it might be the best. I haven't gave the actual ungoogled chromium a shot though but I might run it in a sandbox to try it out.
You just have to dig deeper.
 

Bojji

Member
Neither Chrome nor Brave is an optimal choice imo. You ought to start digging around for browser forks with open source code in repos.

I switched to Brave few years ago and never looked back. That way you get even youtube without ads on mobile without need for any additional software!

When/IF Brave will be fucked by manifest 3 or something i will start looking for another browser. I planned returning to FF (after like ~13 years) but I'm not sure anymore...
 
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Soodanim

Member
I went to Librefox. Apparently Waterfox sold out to an ad company (think not owned by them anymore but still).

LibreWolf is good but the anti fingerprinting makes sites uses light mode and you have to resize the browser window every time you open it. I installed dark reader to get back the dark mode so wasn’t a major issue. It’s a compromise you have to make for better privacy I guess.

The thing is if Firefox disappears then so does LibreWolf and Waterfox. LibreWolf is the way to go for now but the way Mozilla are going then who knows how long Firefox will last.

I gave Brave a try and I’m sticking with it. Yes it’s chromium. And it’s for a bunch of bloat like wallet, vpn, ai shit on it but I disabled it all. Brave is a lot faster and smoother than Firefox. Websites load up much quicker.

The built in adblocker is good. And the anti fingerprinting doesn’t break anything so I’m happy. I don’t know if I will stick with Brave long term but I can’t be bothered setting up a new browser again.
Waterfox's dev bought it back and went solo again, nothing to worry about there.

I had the same issues you did with LibreWolf, but I think I went too far following the guides. LW tells you how to go as far as you can with going to TOR, which is too much for most people's needs. The anti-fingerprinting for example: if you resize the window you lose that element, so it's pointless. I think base LW with the right extensions is fine for most users, but I can't be sure as I'd need to try an out of the box install to know.

I ended up switching back to FF with BetterFox, decent extensions, and NextDNS. Absolutely fine for me.

Of course you are free to choose as you wish, but to put it bluntly the doom and gloom about a potential future for Firefox isn't based on reality. Open source friendly devs would carry it on forever, it's got too strong a fan base to die off.
 
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