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Jeff Grubb - Starfield June 23, Hellblade 2 in 2023
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Kvally
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With the way MS has been releasing games I wouldn’t be surprised. Just the past few months they released AoE 2 Definitive Edition for Xbox, Pentiment, Grounded and Hi - Fi Rush.
Add Colt Eastwood and Red Dragon to your list.
samoilaaa
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maybe just for the campaign but the majority of players that have played diablo 3 for years i doubt they had the time to play skyrim , skyrim is another game that you play for hundreds of hours if not thousands , unless you just want to finish the 20-30 hour campaign and never touch it again
Might as well argue we’re not getting Spiderman 2 this year, using that metric. Ditto for the new Zelda game.
There’s a whole lot of 2023 that’s not ‘in a few months’.
MS last E3 only focused on games coming out by H1 2023 so there’s the possibility of H2 2023 games that are yet to be shown off extensively.
your assumption that Starfield is the fall game is based on the theory that they’ve got nothing else lined up for H2 2023.
We certainly can’t say that for certain, and there are multiple games that can quite feasibly be ready for that time. Most notably Avowed and/or Hellblade 2.
Jimmyisback
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Gonna be awesome if true. What was the last thing Jeff Grubb was right about?
IllegalLemon
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I mentioned the ones whose leaks are the most likely to be taken at face value since they're the most prominent ones. There's probably a dozen or so that I forgot to mention and the list keeps growing too much, making them too many to mention here. But people already have a rough idea of who the "insider" clowns really are.
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Kvally
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Dick Jones
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Heisenberg007
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Dick Jones
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Jimmyisback
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I might take a week of vacation to play starfield. The is the first big opus and bethesda biggest single player to date since Skyrim. Can't wait. Gonna get loss in discovering new worlds and the story while collecting every space bottlecap that I can.
Pelta88
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He's made the Starfield release date numerous times across several years. I'm a "fool me once" type of person.
Grubb has overtly been fooling the XBOX community for years now with BS release dates. Then pushing it to the next year when his bogus release dates turn out to be bogus.
Kvally
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Why?
Strider Highwind
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I personally think Starfield hits between Sept/early october if it lands this year at all, and Forza will come a week or two before Thanksgiving and the shopping season. Thats the most realistic release setup IMO.
azertydu91
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And don't forget the diapers coz that butt might be peeing soon....Grubb some popcorns fellas
Chukhopops
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Starfield in June seems reasonable but I think not even Bethesda knows for sure how quickly it will be considered solid enough.
Hellblade 2 is in my opinion the least interesting game in the Xbox lineup so I don’t care either way.
Hellblade 2 is in my opinion the least interesting game in the Xbox lineup so I don’t care either way.
zomboden
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Because people might be interested in those other games and won't buy Starfield? Releasing your games around the same time as other games will definitely cannibalize your sales. Some people only play whatever is new. I'll use Callisto Protocol as an example. Release Callisto in a month where there are no other new games. People are bored so they're like hey I'l pick up that and play it. Release it in the same month as 4 other AAA games. Now people only have time to play so much and they might not buy Callisto. (Not saying anything bad about Callisto just using it as an example here as a single player one and done game).
You literally saw gameplay of Hellblade II in december of 2021. Which is funny, because first gameplay of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (for example) was out in December and game is coming out in April. Same for plenty of other games. We did not saw gameplay from GoW Ragnarok until few months before release. We did not saw second of Spider-Man's 2 gameplay and game is supposed to come out in same window as Hellblade 2...
Since Microsoft had that "what will be out in next 12 months" at their showcase last year, it is given that Hellblade II was not there, since it is (according to Grubb) releasing in second half of 2023. And since summer showcase is so close it is literally pointless to show it before that. Especially since Microsoft have other games to market in first half of this year.
Kvally
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Why
But maybe more people are interested in Starfield over those other games. I know I am.
demigod
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Doubt it, not everyone is into space/sci-fi. Diablo hit 30m before Skyrim did. Diablo is BIG on PC.
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Buggy Loop
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Shadow drop Starfield during the not-E3 conference, I dare you!
GametimeUK
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I'm not hyped in the slightest for Starfield. I guess the beauty of gamepass is I'll at least try it and make up my own mind. If it releases in June that would be fantastic for everyone waiting on this game.
I'm expecting a buggy underwhelming mess of a game. Something about it doesn't sit right with me.
Hellblade 2 now we're talking. I hope that game turns out to be fantastic.
I'm expecting a buggy underwhelming mess of a game. Something about it doesn't sit right with me.
Hellblade 2 now we're talking. I hope that game turns out to be fantastic.
Hendrick's
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Starfield is bigger than those games. Strange how people are acting like this isn't going to be the biggest release this year.
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Jimmyisback
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Why not?
edit: wait. this might break azure.
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GenericUser
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I have a somewhat similar feeling. It feels as if Bethesda might have bit off more then they can chew. We will see. I hope I'm wrong because on paper starfield sounds like a dream game for me.
Jimmyisback
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I don't need to hope with hellblade. I already know it to be true.
demigod
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No its not. Diablo 4 sales will trump Starfield.
Hendrick's
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Actually he has been right many times. People just give him crap because he tends to leak positive Xbox news. We know that is the worst sin here.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Grubb has been wrong a lot as well
Honestly this just falls in line with what the whispers are saying and he wants to take his shot at being first for having a date
Bethesda wants more time and MS wants it out the door so Grubb picks a date and can always use the "It was a joke" or "Things change" lines that he likes
I think June is very realistic but it will be a Cyberpunk type of bug filled mess
Rykan
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What is with these insanely bad takes?
A release in June would be a delay about 7 months after its initial release date. In what world would that be a miracle? That's literally a bog standard delay time frame for a game. On what basis do you make the assessment that a 7 month delay would be a miracle?
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Jaybe
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even if they could release in June, I think if Activision goes through in the next few months and Diablo 4 (which MS would now own) is still on for June, that they will hold off. They will have their June big hitter to pump up the year before their fiscal year ends June 30th.
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gothmog
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I agree but it will probably be close. Diablo 3 sold 30 million and it was a "bad" game. Skyrim sold 30 million as well over time and many releases. Long term Starfield or Diablo 4 may outpace the other but it's probably not going to seem that way for a while.
Stuart360
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Skyrim actually hit 40mil ages ago.
It will be hard for Starfield to get close to that though because of Gamepass.
I think 20mil sales long term would be a good total for Starfield.
Dr_Ifto
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How many games on Gamepass still hit millions sold? Im not doubting this number, just looking for some figures to compare to.
gothmog
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I was going off what might be an outdated Wikipedia article. Either way I think both games will have plenty of buyers. Enough that we don't need to measure dick sizes.
Stuart360
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Well there are multiple Xbox games on Steam that have hit multi million sales, while being on Gamepass.
You have to remember that although there are 25-30mil Gamepass subs, there are around 250mil Xbox and PC gamers.
What Grubb said is all speculative anyways. He doesn't know.
Dr. Wilkinson
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When you think about it, 11/11 was the original date. It’s only Feb. it’s really only three months late, and they’ve got 4 months left in their window of First half.
There’s nothing in the rule book that says they have to announce now for a late June date. They’re probably just wanting to not have a big gap between final date and release. Which I appreciate given how long we’ve all already waited.
The game is done. It’s just being polished up and hopefully a lot of QA to make sure the game is less buggy at launch than typical BGS games on day one. I’m optimistic it’s sooner than we think.
But I also think part of the problem is not wanting to be too close to Redfall, and not wanting to be too close to Zelda. No doubt they want to be June or later, for that reason alone. We’d have to pick one over the other if Starfield came out within 4 weeks of Zelda, and they want people to play Redfall, so it can’t come out in May. That’s just way too much open-world all at the same time, and sales would cannibalize.
Just be patient for a bit longer.
There’s nothing in the rule book that says they have to announce now for a late June date. They’re probably just wanting to not have a big gap between final date and release. Which I appreciate given how long we’ve all already waited.
The game is done. It’s just being polished up and hopefully a lot of QA to make sure the game is less buggy at launch than typical BGS games on day one. I’m optimistic it’s sooner than we think.
But I also think part of the problem is not wanting to be too close to Redfall, and not wanting to be too close to Zelda. No doubt they want to be June or later, for that reason alone. We’d have to pick one over the other if Starfield came out within 4 weeks of Zelda, and they want people to play Redfall, so it can’t come out in May. That’s just way too much open-world all at the same time, and sales would cannibalize.
Just be patient for a bit longer.
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feynoob
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And I have a great chance sleeping with Margot Robbie.
TheRedRiders
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Geff Jrubb strikes again!
feynoob
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No way Diablo 4 will edge Starfield.
This a highly anticipated game. If anything, Starfield would dominate the headline. Good or bad.
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gothmog
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I think people underestimate the audience for Diablo games. I also think that people do not understand just how much of a draw the total package of Skyrim was to people with the shouting Viking vibe. Starfield will obviously sell quite well but we have yet to see just how popular its take on sci-fi will be. I could be wrong obviously.
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zomboden
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Diablo and Final Fantasy are megalodon sized video game franchises. It would be silly to release in the same month as those two.
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