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[LegendOfKage]

Finished listening. Trump is seemingly much more moderate in his views than Joe is now, because of Joe’s shift in recent years. He gently chided Joe for being antivax, mentioning how important the polio vaccine is. When Joe tried to get onto the notion of big pharma conspiracies to allegedly intentionally destroy everyone’s health Trump wasn’t on board and said he had a great relationship with pharma companies.

Nothing really groundbreaking. If Trump ends up winning I guess it’s reassuring that he’s not aligned with a lot of Joe’s nonsense.

Turns out Joe was censoring his real positions in the Trump interview. Joe doesn't even believe the polio vaccine is real now and had to hold himself back from "correcting" Trump about it.

That really is unfortunate. I hope it at least helped some of Rogan's listeners hear that sort of difference of opinion. On the topic of Trump and the vaccines, there's a funny thing about vaccines and Trump being removed from social media that I realized myself, and I've never seen anyone else talk about. Government officials went after social media for "vaccine misinformation" to censor legally protected speech. Government officials literally said that social media companies were "killing people" by allowing vaccine skepticism on their platforms. It seemed heavy handed to me, and it still does, but that's not my point.

My point is that Trump was all about the vaccines. It was "operation warp speed," if you remember. It was a great accomplishment. Yet, Trump was removed from social media by that time. So why only ask the rhetorical question "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you allowing anti-vaccine opinion on your platform?" Wouldn't another valid question be "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you removing Trump from social media?" After all, he would have been THE conservative voice telling people to take the vaccine. Not having that just made everything even more politicized.

If Trump was around to promote the vaccine and people were allowed to freely discuss covid over social media without censorship, I have to wonder if Rogan would have ever gone down this rabbit hole. Regardless, it's sad to see where Rogan is with some of these things now.

 

[Jsisto]

Absolutely worth checking this out, too. I found it to be far more interesting than the Trump one but I’m also a huge Tim Dillon fan.

 

[EviLore]

That really is unfortunate. I hope it at least helped some of Rogan's listeners hear that sort of difference of opinion. On the topic of Trump and the vaccines, there's a funny thing about vaccines and Trump being removed from social media that I realized myself, and I've never seen anyone else talk about. Government officials went after social media for "vaccine misinformation" to censor legally protected speech. Government officials literally said that social media companies were "killing people" by allowing vaccine skepticism on their platforms. It seemed heavy handed to me, and it still does, but that's not my point.

My point is that Trump was all about the vaccines. It was "operation warp speed," if you remember. It was a great accomplishment. Yet, Trump was removed from social media by that time. So why only ask the rhetorical question "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you allowing anti-vaccine opinion on your platform?" Wouldn't another valid question be "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you removing Trump from social media?" After all, he would have been THE conservative voice telling people to take the vaccine. Not having that just made everything even more politicized.

If Trump was around to promote the vaccine and people were allowed to freely discuss covid over social media without censorship, I have to wonder if Rogan would have ever gone down this rabbit hole. Regardless, it's sad to see where Rogan is with some of these things now.

That’s a good point, yeah.

There have been all sorts of downstream effects from the choices made in the past decade to get us to this quaint spot we’re in now where average people don’t know what’s real anymore and don’t trust any institutions.

 

[FunkMiller]

But I think the real value here is the precident its setting. Career politicians the world over must be shitting themselves today in the knowledge that voters will be expecting and asking for a lot more of this from them. Sitting down for long form interviews will be kryptonite for a large majority of them. But now it's been done once, people will require a lot more of it in future.

You have to be kidding. You think politicians are going to be scared of sitting down with people like Rogan? Please. You make it sound like he's David Frost, not a stoner jiu-jitsu guy who thinks the moon landings didn't happen This was a cake walk for Trump - who has refused point blank to be interviewed by political journalists. Not that there's many good ones of those left in America.

 

[jufonuk]

he is like a dude who gets High at a pub and has one of those pub talk chats. Which are great at times. they can be wildly entertaining

 

[jason10mm]

You have to be kidding. You think politicians are going to be scared of sitting down with people like Rogan? Please. You make it sound like he's David Frost, not a stoner jiu-jitsu guy who thinks the moon landings didn't happen This was a cake walk for Trump - who has refused point blank to be interviewed by political journalists. Not that there's many good ones of those left in America.

I dunno, a 1-2 hour freeform conversation would be DEATH to a lot of politicians because they are all carefully hiding their own beliefs and are just spitting out whatever they are told for the moment. Rogan, I think, could worm his way in and get folks to open out about some stuff. Plus Rogan has little to no need to maintain access to politicans so he could just straight ask "hey, your net worth has gone from $100,000 to $100,000,000 in the past 6 years as a public servant, how did that happen?" which are questions we should be asking EVERY politician across the aisles.

 

[RCX]

You have to be kidding. You think politicians are going to be scared of sitting down with people like Rogan? Please. You make it sound like he's David Frost, not a stoner jiu-jitsu guy who thinks the moon landings didn't happen This was a cake walk for Trump - who has refused point blank to be interviewed by political journalists. Not that there's many good ones of those left in America.

Not the point I was making.

I wasn't suggesting they should all be sitting down with Rogan. I'm saying it's going to raise expectations for all candidates for major office to sit down for long form interviews/conversations.

Who the interviewer is isn't the important part. Take Trump out of the equation and look at it in terms of all politicians. A couple of hours of freeform conversation would expose a lot of them and their ideas to the kind of scrutiny they wouldnt hold up to.

 

[FunkMiller]

Not the point I was making.

I wasn't suggesting they should all be sitting down with Rogan. I'm saying it's going to raise expectations for all candidates for major office to sit down for long form interviews/conversations.

Who the interviewer is isn't the important part. Take Trump out of the equation and look at it in terms of all politicians. A couple of hours of freeform conversation would expose a lot of them and their ideas to the kind of scrutiny they wouldnt hold up to.

Of course the interviewer is important. Ten minutes with someone who asks the right questions can be more enlightening than four hours with someone who doesn’t.

You’re trying to make out this was some kind of giant new precedent set by Trump that will impact future interviews. It isn’t. If anything all it does is reinforce how modern politicians completely dodge hard questions and hard interviews out of fear/ unwillingness to be truthful with the electorate. He’s the king of that. The fact he babbled in his usual ‘weave’ for hours is irrelevant.

 

[FunkMiller]

I dunno, a 1-2 hour freeform conversation would be DEATH to a lot of politicians because they are all carefully hiding their own beliefs and are just spitting out whatever they are told for the moment. Rogan, I think, could worm his way in and get folks to open out about some stuff. Plus Rogan has little to no need to maintain access to politicans so he could just straight ask "hey, your net worth has gone from $100,000 to $100,000,000 in the past 6 years as a public servant, how did that happen?" which are questions we should be asking EVERY politician across the aisles.

Rogan is not going to spoil his bottom line by asking tough questions. If he got a reputation for that, he’d get less guests and less money.

 

[jason10mm]

Rogan is not going to spoil his bottom line by asking tough questions. If he got a reputation for that, he’d get less guests and less money.

I dunno, like 98% of his guests are scientists, comedians, some shade of podcaster/reporter type, or hunters/MMA. Not really ones that need "hard questions". Sure, he gets politicians or prominent businessmen from time to time, but the vast majority of his "bottom line" is from him getting high and joking with comedians or talking about UFOs. I don't think he cares much if politicians want to come on his show, nor do I think he would try to maneuver them into "gotcha" zones. But, like with Trump, he does ask about some awkward areas (JFK, UFOs for Trump) and lobs some softballs like not asking how tariffs would actually create more revenue than an income tax, letting him call folks "dumb idiots", not asking about stuff that might be rough for Trump, like abortion, THC legalization, etc. But I think Joe doesn't prepare much and doesn't want to be a platform for a lecture like that, so he isn't gonna go after someone. Heck, his favorite bit with Trump was probably them talking about fighters

But I think he WOULD hit Harris on covid response, the border, stuff like that because that's where he disagrees with her, while he and Trump are much more aligned on those topics. Same with transgender surgery on children. Joe also tends to just say "uh huh" when he disagrees with the speaker and lets the internet do the fact checking for him outside of areas he thinks he knows something. If a guest said something like "moose are very endangered and no one should hunt them" then I think you would see Jow dig in his heels.

 

[FunkMiller]

I dunno, like 98% of his guests are scientists, comedians, some shade of podcaster/reporter type, or hunters/MMA. Not really ones that need "hard questions". Sure, he gets politicians or prominent businessmen from time to time, but the vast majority of his "bottom line" is from him getting high and joking with comedians or talking about UFOs. I don't think he cares much if politicians want to come on his show, nor do I think he would try to maneuver them into "gotcha" zones. But, like with Trump, he does ask about some awkward areas (JFK, UFOs for Trump) and lobs some softballs like not asking how tariffs would actually create more revenue than an income tax, letting him call folks "dumb idiots", not asking about stuff that might be rough for Trump, like abortion, THC legalization, etc. But I think Joe doesn't prepare much and doesn't want to be a platform for a lecture like that, so he isn't gonna go after someone. Heck, his favorite bit with Trump was probably them talking about fighters

But I think he WOULD hit Harris on covid response, the border, stuff like that because that's where he disagrees with her, while he and Trump are much more aligned on those topics. Same with transgender surgery on children. Joe also tends to just say "uh huh" when he disagrees with the speaker and lets the internet do the fact checking for him outside of areas he thinks he knows something. If a guest said something like "moose are very endangered and no one should hunt them" then I think you would see Jow dig in his heels.

All of those are the reasons why Trump went on Rogan, and why it was largely a pointless exercise for anyone who actually wants Trump to be pinned down and asked about actual policies - the actual stuff he’d do as president.

 

[TheAtomicPile]

History will look a lot more kindly on him since people are more informed than ever and not just buying stuff from the typical media on both sides.

This was probably on it's way to being true until Jan 6th and all that surrounds it. Seems unlikely that even Teflon Don will be able to escape a footnote of that magnitude.

 

[Rentahamster]

I haven't listed to all of it yet, but how many "Jamie let's pull that up" factchecks are there in this?

 

[ResilientBanana]

I’m about half way through. It’s not as bad as I thought it would be and some things he’s somewhat right about. I was honestly going into it to listen to both sides and do my own fact checking to make a decision on who to vote for. I hate Trump and his attitude but Harris and her ideologies I don’t necessarily agree with either.

 

[Mistake]

That’s a good point, yeah.

There have been all sorts of downstream effects from the choices made in the past decade to get us to this quaint spot we’re in now where average people don’t know what’s real anymore and don’t trust any institutions.

After the smear campaign CNN did on rogan, I'm honestly not surprised he went so hard in the other direction. But honestly, I've been long turned off by him essentially promoting different drugs, I just listen for the interesting guests

 

[jason10mm]

All of those are the reasons why Trump went on Rogan, and why it was largely a pointless exercise for anyone who actually wants Trump to be pinned down and asked about actual policies - the actual stuff he’d do as president.

Well, thats been true for decades with politicians.

But we got that Trump will enact tariffs, that he will reduce taxes on corporations that build within the us, that he will SPECIFICALLY open up mineral rights for places and increase gas production, insight into how he 'negotiates' with foreign leaders, that he will likely clean out the pentagon, that he will try to do better with his appointments now that he has more experience, he will roll back california electric car mandates, that he is likely to use gov funds to set up starlink internet in underserved or remote areas, and, and this is CRITICAL, he will declassify the JFK reports now that almost all the incriminated folks are dead

Tell me ANY politician in the past 20+ years that laid out so many concrete ideas in one interview. Shit, most of them would need 3 polls just to make a decision and even then it would be couched in nebulous terms.

We've HAD 4 years of Trump as president, I think he will continue to do exactly what he did before, which is dereg what he can, enact as much domestic business friendly legislation as he can, try to get other countries to pay for as much as possible, say silly shit on a daily basis, try to stay out of jail, make the US an energy producer/exporter (again), and probably pull us out of/keep us out of as many military engagements as possible while threatening to nuke people who step out of line. He will make CNN/MSNBC popular again as TDS definitely sells

 

[FunkMiller]

Well, thats been true for decades with politicians.

But we got that Trump will enact tariffs, that he will reduce taxes on corporations that build within the us, that he will SPECIFICALLY open up mineral rights for places and increase gas production, insight into how he 'negotiates' with foreign leaders, that he will likely clean out the pentagon, that he will try to do better with his appointments now that he has more experience, he will roll back california electric car mandates, that he is likely to use gov funds to set up starlink internet in underserved or remote areas, and, and this is CRITICAL, he will declassify the JFK reports now that almost all the incriminated folks are dead

Tell me ANY politician in the past 20+ years that laid out so many concrete ideas in one interview. Shit, most of them would need 3 polls just to make a decision and even then it would be couched in nebulous terms.

We've HAD 4 years of Trump as president, I think he will continue to do exactly what he did before, which is dereg what he can, enact as much domestic business friendly legislation as he can, try to get other countries to pay for as much as possible, say silly shit on a daily basis, try to stay out of jail, make the US an energy producer/exporter (again), and probably pull us out of/keep us out of as many military engagements as possible while threatening to nuke people who step out of line. He will make CNN/MSNBC popular again as TDS definitely sells

I think you're going to be disappointed on November 6th. But we'll leave that there, for obvious reasons.

 

[jason10mm]

I think you're going to be disappointed on November 6th. But we'll leave that there, for obvious reasons.

No matter who wins I'm gonna be disappointed. How we got to the point these 2 are our candidates just saddens me.

 

[EviLore]

No matter who wins I'm gonna be disappointed. How we got to the point these 2 are our candidates just saddens me.

Competent people of good sense and character aren’t touching politics with a 10 foot pole these days. It’s a circus.

 

[Jsisto]

If anything I view him as a sort of necessary evil to expose how corrupt politics has gotten on both sides. Maybe a greater good will arise out of it. Probably not, but I can hope.

 

[od-chan]

Trump on Joe Rogan was pretty good, now we also have Tim Waltz talking about how he bought Crazy Taxi back in the day on a Twitch stream with AOC.

I love american politics.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Joe Rogan is a fucking idiot. There really is no other way to describe it.

But sure, he knows how to kick stuff really hard.

 

[jason10mm]

MSN

www.msn.com

"Also, for the record, the Harris campaign has not passed on doing the podcast," Rogan wrote late Monday night. "They offered a date for Tuesday, but I would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the best way to do it is in the studio in Austin."

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So sorry, Madame Vice President, I don't come to you, you come to me!

Damn, imagine being an interviewer and having the chops to say that 2 weeks before the election!

 

[Hrk69]

Joe Rogan is a fucking idiot. There really is no other way to describe it.

Care to expand on that? I'm real curious.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Care to expand on that? I'm real curious.

In extremely short form: he listens to people that sound as if they know what they are saying instead of listening to people that back what they are saying with peer reviewed facts. To him everything is a conspiracy, and he carelessly distributes his ignorance to the sheep.

 

[LegendOfKage]

MSN

www.msn.com

"Also, for the record, the Harris campaign has not passed on doing the podcast," Rogan wrote late Monday night. "They offered a date for Tuesday, but I would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the best way to do it is in the studio in Austin."

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So sorry, Madame Vice President, I don't come to you, you come to me!

Damn, imagine being an interviewer and having the chops to say that 2 weeks before the election!

Joe went into more detail here. He also describes himself as politically homeless, and he seems to most closely identify with the same traditional liberal values that his parents raised him to believe in.

 

[jason10mm]

Wow, the JD Vance interview is very illuminating into his (Vance') thought process and a bit into Trumps. I think everyone ought to listen to it, particularly if you are on the fence, if you want to hear what the next 4 years MIGHT be like (assuming Trump lets this guy do anything, which I think he would). Without going into specifics about policies and politics, just the way he thinks, frames a problem, lists alternate courses of action, and articulates himself over HOURS (with some breaks in there) it's evident he could be an effective leader.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I think if you kinda follow what's been happening to laws and the momentum and movement of companies, economies, social media, and the general vibe, you should be very optimistic if Vance is there.

Not because "reasons". It's been so bad (economically, etc) the last several years with what we have that we have something here that is really hard to falsify. And at the very least, this "vibe" or "feeling" you get one on side is so stark compared to this stiffling and overtly negative side. It's like a smell in the air. You can't falsify that even if you wanted to because political allegiance (something which I don't have as I've been a longtime "lefty" who no longer things like that).

Vance gives me a lot of hope for the future of that party. The left gives me a feel of desperation to hang on to the suffocating grip they've smartly made. More people are seeing through that thanks to places where you aren't censored (X/Twitter).

So, after about 2h17m of the Vance podcast (which I have playing as I type this), I'm much more optimistic if they win. He's a good guy and hope he and the party get the rub going forward in the coming next elections.

 

[chakadave]

MSN

www.msn.com

"Also, for the record, the Harris campaign has not passed on doing the podcast," Rogan wrote late Monday night. "They offered a date for Tuesday, but I would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the best way to do it is in the studio in Austin."

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So sorry, Madame Vice President, I don't come to you, you come to me!

Damn, imagine being an interviewer and having the chops to say that 2 weeks before the election!

It wouldn’t be the JRE if he traveled.

He isn’t an interviewer. He is a comedian that has a studio.

He doesn’t need to invterview her.

 

[jason10mm]

It wouldn’t be the JRE if he traveled.

He isn’t an interviewer. He is a comedian that has a studio.

He doesn’t need to invterview her.

That's my point. He is probably the ONLY person on the planet that wouldn't crawl through broken glass to get an hour of time with Harris the WEEK before the election. Regardless of what you think of her (or Rogan), to turn it down was a MASSIVE decision. His audience is larger than CNN/MSNBC/Foxnews best rated shows COMBINED and it's an audience i would think Harris would DESPERATELY want to convince to vote for her.

 

[chakadave]

That's my point. He is probably the ONLY person on the planet that wouldn't crawl through broken glass to get an hour of time with Harris the WEEK before the election. Regardless of what you think of her (or Rogan), to turn it down was a MASSIVE decision. His audience is larger than CNN/MSNBC/Foxnews best rated shows COMBINED and it's an audience i would think Harris would DESPERATELY want to convince to vote for her.

Yeah and that is how media has changed. This is such a good thing for politics. To have them go for 2-3 hours is very valuable.

In extremely short form: he listens to people that sound as if they know what they are saying instead of listening to people that back what they are saying with peer reviewed facts. To him everything is a conspiracy, and he carelessly distributes his ignorance to the sheep.

Better to do that and be genuounly curious as opposed to fallacious authority arguents.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Yeah and that is how media has changed. This is such a good thing for politics. To have them go for 2-3 hours is very valuable.

Better to do that and be genuounly curious as opposed to fallacious authority arguents.

He is not genuinely curious when it comes to facts and science though, only what strikes him as shocking and gets delivered from ”woke” people. And yes, I think that term is appropriate for left wing nuts as well as right wing nuts.

One does not have to choose between the lesser of two evils when there is there rest of the world to choose from.

 

[Toons]

That really is unfortunate. I hope it at least helped some of Rogan's listeners hear that sort of difference of opinion. On the topic of Trump and the vaccines, there's a funny thing about vaccines and Trump being removed from social media that I realized myself, and I've never seen anyone else talk about. Government officials went after social media for "vaccine misinformation" to censor legally protected speech. Government officials literally said that social media companies were "killing people" by allowing vaccine skepticism on their platforms. It seemed heavy handed to me, and it still does, but that's not my point.

My point is that Trump was all about the vaccines. It was "operation warp speed," if you remember. It was a great accomplishment. Yet, Trump was removed from social media by that time. So why only ask the rhetorical question "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you allowing anti-vaccine opinion on your platform?" Wouldn't another valid question be "how many vaccine skepticism deaths are you responsible for due to you removing Trump from social media?" After all, he would have been THE conservative voice telling people to take the vaccine. Not having that just made everything even more politicized.

If Trump was around to promote the vaccine and people were allowed to freely discuss covid over social media without censorship, I have to wonder if Rogan would have ever gone down this rabbit hole. Regardless, it's sad to see where Rogan is with some of these things now.

Trump was the president of the United States and the media never stopped highlighted every world that came out of his mouth and echoing it to millions the world over at any point.

Him not having a Twitter account had absolutely no bearing on his ability to promote the vaccine, express support for it; anything. To suggest that such is the case is ludicrous. He was the most talked about politician in the world at the time, and probably still is. Definitely still is.

Besides, you can't have that conversation without discussion the context behind why he was removed from social media... the January 6th insurrection attempt being the primary thing.

Anything trump didnt say, he didn't say because he didn't want to, not because he couldn't.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Trump was the president of the United States and the media never stopped highlighted every world that came out of his mouth and echoing it to millions the world over at any point.

Him not having a Twitter account had absolutely no bearing on his ability to promote the vaccine, express support for it; anything. To suggest that such is the case is ludicrous. He was the most talked about politician in the world at the time, and probably still is. Definitely still is.

I remember pretty clearly that a little while after Trump was removed from the internet and he was only on Truth social, nearly all reporting about whatever he was saying there went away. I believe the media wanted to stop giving him any sort of promotion or attention. Outside of some news when he took the vaccine, for the most part vaccines were presented by the media as another matter of "us vs them." Trump was largely dropped from the vaccine discussion in favor of the media fighting with Rogan.

Why report on a guy you hate who agrees with the vaccines (and in turn be forced to allow him to take some credit for the vaccines), when you could instead focus on a guy you hate who also has an opinion you hate? I would think that the media was never going to support Trump with positive coverage regarding vaccines and covid after they spent a full year reporting on him as negatively as possible. Were Trump still on twitter at the time, he would have been much harder for the media to ignore. He would have been critical of the media who said he was lying that the vaccines were only a month or two away after the election (which turned out to be true), and he would have taken credit for the vaccines in a very public fashion.

Way easier and more beneficial for the "us vs them" narrative of the media to focus on Rogan, and they did.

 

[Toons]

I remember pretty clearly that a little while after Trump was removed from the internet and he was only on Truth social, nearly all reporting about whatever he was saying there went away. I believe the media wanted to stop giving him any sort of promotion or attention. Outside of some news when he took the vaccine, for the most part vaccines were presented by the media as another matter of "us vs them." Trump was largely dropped from the vaccine discussion in favor of the media fighting with Rogan.

Why report on a guy you hate who agrees with the vaccines (and in turn be forced to allow him to take some credit for the vaccines), when you could instead focus on a guy you hate who also has an opinion you hate? I would think that the media was never going to support Trump with positive coverage regarding vaccines and covid after they spent a full year reporting on him as negatively as possible. Were Trump still on twitter at the time, he would have been much harder for the media to ignore. He would have been critical of the media who said he was lying that the vaccines were only a month or two away after the election (which turned out to be true), and he would have taken credit for the vaccines in a very public fashion.

Way easier and more beneficial for the "us vs them" narrative of the media to focus on Rogan, and they did.

The media never ignored Trump. Again, his ban was in the wake of the most impactful attack on our democracy in years if not decades. Worldwide the attention was on us, and no matter your political stance, it cannot he denied that the vast majority of the perpetrators were doing so in support of Donald trump, bearing his name on their close and acting in response to his presidential loss. even if he did not directly call for it, his attachment to the event is undeniable. You're going to have to seriously back up the claim that he wasn't being covered by media following, in light of those facts

Rogan didn't really start pushing the "alternative" treatments until around September of that year, well after trumps ban, and it had less to fo with Trump and more to do with the fact that Rogan caught covid around then. Trump had all eyes on him, both from those accusing him of directly inciting the events, and from those looking to him to disavow them(something that he DID do, eventually).

A prominent example is when trump DID echo support for the vaxxine in the summer of that year while being interviewed by Hannity I believe. He however said that he didn't think it should be given to kids and that schools should be opened. This also recieved media coverage

 

[jason10mm]

Let's not get the thread locked. Rogan wasn't at Jan 6, so it's irrelevant here.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Elon Musk folks

 

[gunslikewhoa]

Come back to me when he sits down with someone who would be far harder on him. It's a soft interview for Trump, and he knew that going in. I'd admire him if he agreed to be interviewed by a journalist with a better reputation for political interviews, who didn't express bias one way or another.

Tell us who the tuck that unicorn is.

 

[FunkMiller]

Joe should get Ann Selzer on the show next week. It'd be an interesting chat, regardless of tomorrow.

 

[jason10mm]

I thought Fetterman was overly evasive. Joe picked on the caption thing a bit much, IMHO, but then Fetterman stammered his way through non answers on a lot of the hot topics. Can't tell if he just wants another run and needs DNC support (given the cost of his first campaign I gotta think thats the case) so he has to toe the line or if he genuinely has a divergent thought about some issues that he has to keep closer to his chest. But he wouldn't even put a firm opinion down on immigration...come on man!

 

[YCoCg]

Picking a side because Elon Musk convinced you

 

[LegendOfKage]

I thought Fetterman was overly evasive. Joe picked on the caption thing a bit much, IMHO, but then Fetterman stammered his way through non answers on a lot of the hot topics. Can't tell if he just wants another run and needs DNC support (given the cost of his first campaign I gotta think thats the case) so he has to toe the line or if he genuinely has a divergent thought about some issues that he has to keep closer to his chest. But he wouldn't even put a firm opinion down on immigration...come on man!

I'm just glad he was interviewed. After having several conservatives, it's great that Rogan got a liberal to give their side of the issues. This video [timestamped] is an example of what makes Rogan such a strong interviewer, and so radically different than mainstream media. 2 or 3 hour long discussion where you can spend a long while on a single topic, not talk over each other, not insult people who disagree, and basically just ask them to explain their side of the argument. Rogan makes his points, and then genuinely wants to hear the best version of an argument that disagrees with him. He's respectful, asks for clarification, has plenty of time to cover the topic, and he allows his own audience to decide for themselves if the guest made a good argument or not. All major interviews on 24 hours news stations should work like this.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Picking a side because Elon Musk convinced you

I've criticized Musk quite a bit for many of the decisions he's made with twitter. But even with the border concerns and the economy concerns, I don't see Rogan ever endorsing any candidate if it wasn't for the fact that opposing party candidates both have said that the government should decide what is true and what is false, and remove people from the internet who disagree. At that point, I can understand Rogan's desire to remain nonpartisan outweighed by his traditional liberal values.

I'd have to listen to the podcast and hear Rogan's comments on the matter, but I'm guessing that's what finally did it.

 

[Rentahamster]

Joe's endorsement is interesting. That's a big change from when he had Bernie Sanders on.

 

[chakadave]

Joe's endorsement is interesting. That's a big change from when he had Bernie Sanders on.

Not really. Bernie 5 years ago is basically Trump now,. They are quite close in most views.

 

[EviLore]

Elon episode is a good listen.

 

[Rentahamster]

Not really. Bernie 5 years ago is basically Trump now,. They are quite close in most views.

Uhh, I think both Sanders and Trump would have a big issue with that statement.

 

[Mistake]

I liked how Elon gave a more thorough explanation to the consequences of tariffs for businesses and how to manage it. Also on trade. Love him or hate him, people are shaped by how many experiences they have, and it really shows with Elon when he does talks like this.

 

[crobb2305]

Joe Rogan endorsing a rapist and racist... great

 

[chakadave]

Uhh, I think both Sanders and Trump would have a big issue with that statement.

Maybe in just a few areas but in a lot of ways they are the same. Solutions may differ. Go listen to Bernie in 19. I think you would be surprised.

The 2 big issues both sides are pushing they literaly have the same opinion on them both.