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Keith Richards: Rap is crap, and Metallica and Black Sabbath are a joke

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Squalor

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Flo_Evans said:
Rolling Stones are still selling out stadiums.
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Cool. People his age are still going to see them struggle along. All right.

That doesn't equate to relevance. They haven't released an album in ten years, and it has been more than twenty years since they released an album anyone actually cared about.

They're at their sold-out shows playing songs that are older than we are.
 
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Zen_Arcade

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Squalor said:
Cool. People his age are still going to see them struggle along. All right.

That doesn't equate to relevance. They haven't released an album in ten years, and it has been more than twenty years since they released an album anyone actually cared about.

They're at their sold-out shows playing songs that are older than we are.
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That's still more relevant then like, 90% of current rock acts that are still putting out music on a yearly basis. You're just making up your own definition of relevance. By this logic, the Beatles aren't a relevant rock band because they've been broken up for decades, despite the fact that members are still beloved for those songs, and probably influence damn near an entire genre to this day.

Also, I think you'd be surprised how many younger people show up at old rock bands concerts.
 
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xbhaskarx

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I think people here are confusing "relevant" with "creatively productive"... the Rolling Stones are relevant and will continue to be, because their output from the late 60s - early 70s makes them legends. Hence the sold out stadiums to this day.
But that doesn't mean they're making anything NEW that is relevant, and they haven't in a long time.
 
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Flo_Evans

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Squalor said:
Cool. People his age are still going to see them struggle along. All right.

That doesn't equate to relevance. They haven't released an album in ten years, and it has been more than twenty years since they released an album anyone actually cared about.

They're at their sold-out shows playing songs that are older than we are.
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Again you have no clue.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Yeah, he's just talking to talk though, obviously. It's not like he's listened to any of it, obviously, because he seems to be operating under the idea there is literally no musicality to hip hop at all. It's just computer drums and yelling.

Even in the space of time between the 2007 quote the article references and the 2015 quote he just gave, there are WORLDS of hip-hop available (and very popular hip-hop, too) that is just as musical and melodic as any number of Rolling Stones songs.

But again - he's just popping off at the mouth because he's an old man who hasn't given a fuck about anything since he discovered heroin.

Red Blaster said:
probably salty that black peeps don't do guitar music anymore so he can't steal their licks
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I like this.
 
Shpeshal Nick

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Chie Satonaka

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I love Hip-Hop and have always thought the Stones were overrated. Go team tone-deaf.

Are we sure that Keith Richards can even hear what rap music sounds like? He was already 600 years old when the Stones debuted.
 
SturokBGD

SturokBGD

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Ahaaaaaa he may have his millions and his lifetime of drugs and women and his legions of adoring fans but I have this keyboard and the internet AHAAAAAAAAAAAA.
 
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Acosta

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He's Keith Richards, he looks down to many things, including The Beatles, Led Zeppelin or Creedence Clearwater Revival. It means nothing.

He is a 71 years man that enjoys blues/jazz the most, what's going to say?
 
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DonasaurusRex

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Squalor said:
It must be hard watching yourself fade from relevance.
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he's probably had a good 30 years to come to terms with that, he's doing just fine and probably can sell out just as fast as the people he's trashing.

once he captures and sucks the immortality from Keanu Reeves he will rock on till the end of days lest he be trapped in his current zombie body till the final times.
 
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Henchmen21

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Chinpoko_Master said:
I don't think anyone gets more defensive or insecure about people not liking their music than rap fans.
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Nope just millennials in general. If you don't like the turgid shit they like, they get extremely defensive about it*.


*also posts that "old man yells at cloud gif" because they can't argue their point without resorting to stupid memes.
 
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andymcc

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man i love the stones.

is he not getting enough royalties from hip-hop samples or...

Henchmen21 said:
Nope just millennials in general. If you don't like the turgid shit they like, they get extremely defensive about it*.


*also posts that "old man yells at cloud gif" because they can't argue their point without resorting to stupid memes.
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"turgid shit" with a ghostbusters 2 avatar.

yes, yes.
 
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The Albatross

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Same argument could pretty much be made about the American blues that the Rolling Stones appropriated into their rock and roll albums.
 
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beato_angelico

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Acosta said:
He's Keith Richards, he looks down to many things, including The Beatles, Led Zeppelin or Creedence Clearwater Revival. It means nothing.

He is a 71 years man that enjoys blues/jazz the most, what's going to say?
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the salty people in this thread are hilarious. the man has got a solo album to sell, of course is going to troll somebody.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Yeah, old rock stars complaining about lack of originality has always been pretty funny. Especially coming from acts like Zeppelin or the Stones.
 
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xbhaskarx

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Acosta said:
He's Keith Richards, he looks down to many things, including The Beatles, Led Zeppelin or Creedence Clearwater Revival. It means nothing.

He is a 71 years man that enjoys blues/jazz the most, what's going to say?
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He took a shot at The Beatles here too, but it's not quoted in the OP so no one cares:

Elsewhere, Richards returned to the Stones' old British invasion rivals, the Beatles. Recently, the guitarist told Esquire the band's seminal 1967 LP Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was "a mishmash of rubbish, kind of like like Satanic Majesties — 'Oh, if you can make a load of shit, so can we.'"

Richards added to the Daily News that he was also unimpressed with the Beatles' famed 1965 concert at Shea Stadium: "As a band, they weren’t in sync with each other." Still, Richards said he remained a fan a bit longer, but, "When it got to [seeing the guru] Maharishi [in 1967], I gave up."
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So Richards gave up being a Beatles fan in 1967, so like right before they released 5 of their 7 best albums. Okay then lol.
 
Hale-XF11

Hale-XF11

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The Albatross said:
Same argument could pretty much be made about the American blues that the Rolling Stones appropriated into their rock and roll albums.
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I was gonna make this point as well, but a lot of people are often just as super defensive about the blues genre, which somehow gives the stones a pass because they "elevated the genre" in the minds of their fans.
 
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inki

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It's Keith Richards, like I'm going to care what thoughts race within his drug induced hole ridden brain.
 
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Toparaman

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Mass Effect said:
Progressive/experimental rock/metal fans. Go insult Tool or Radiohead and watch their fans descend on you like hell.

Heavy metal fans.
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Prog and metal fans are used to having people from every age, race, and mentality shit on their music.

Rap fans only have to deal with old people, rednecks, and pseudo-intellectuals. Rap has always had cool-cred.

Personally I never get hurt when someone insults rap, because I'm surrounded by rap fans. But I do get offended when someone insults metal, because it just reminds me that most people will never understand something that I love.
 
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overcast

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Hale-XF11 said:
Me neither. I've always thought of their music as safe, boring and generic rock. I guess I just don't get why they're still so popular.
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Naw they have some great albums that are really bluesy and musically developed past "generic". Even then they have legendary dad rock riffs.
Henchmen21 said:
Nope just millennials in general. If you don't like the turgid shit they like, they get extremely defensive about it*.


*also posts that "old man yells at cloud gif" because they can't argue their point without resorting to stupid memes.
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We're on an internet forum. People are gonna make jokes and have opinions. When somebody insults opinions people get defensive. And talk.. over the internet. I feel like that's why it exists. You seem angry about not understanding a generation of people.

Oh yeah,
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spock

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beato_angelico said:
the salty people in this thread are hilarious. the man has got a solo album to sell, of course is going to troll somebody.
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Truth right here...them winks were him saying...ok this will get repeated a bunch on those computer thingies...(all publicity is good publicity)

Also, next watch him and Kanye come out with an album...hiphop that is music according to Keith...
 
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gdt

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It's Keith. He can say whatever he wants really. He probably doesn't even mean. Just fucking around.
 
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LCGeek

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His line about rap can be said for a lot of music made in the last 60 years. There is good music old and new to be found in most genres still.

People saying the old man yells at clouds sentiment are right.
 
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see5harp

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A lot of heavy metal is a joke and a lot of rap is yelling over a drum beat. I wouldn't write of either genre completely though, especially if I were an old as dirt washed out joke like Keith Richards.
 
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