All their competition has some form of drafting so it would be insane if they didn't in arena. Even the name of the product is the name of Hearthstone's drafting mode. Maybe they could do the simulated drafts like Eternal if they wanted to separate Arena and MTGO.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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All their competition has some form of drafting so it would be insane if they didn't in arena. Even the name of the product is the name of Hearthstone's drafting mode. Maybe they could do the simulated drafts like Eternal if they wanted to separate Arena and MTGO.
SigmasonicX
Member
Well, yeah.
1pm EST is when the first draft at Hascon fires off.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
aren't you drafting with different people between packs or something?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think there's a ghost of a chance they do live drafting or limited in any way in this set. MTGO's entire economy is entirely based on it.
Imperfected
Member
I would rather not advertise Wizard's bad behavior (ie, Hascon). Let's just pretend like this didn't happen, just like the rest of the world is going to.
I thought they were but I am looking now and it seems like it might be more complicated than that...
So i guess packs never wheel. You pick a card then your pack goes into a queue that is then passed to the next person waiting for a pack. It uses an algorithm to try to give you packs in the queue based on the picks you have made so far.
If you want to go cheap you can buy a simple Ultra-Pro Pro 100+ deckbox for 2-3 bucks. If you want to go a bit more expensive I love the Ultra-Pro Satin Towers for commander decks, those are 15ish bucks.
Awesome, thanks!
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Little Old Man
Member
So what is this set supposed to be? Iconic cards from the modern era? I presume it's just mid tier price reprints?
Not out till November lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Random cash grab.
They've been annoyingly secretive re: Iconic Masters but by this weekend we'll know the cards.
It's a reprint set (probably closer to Eternal Masters rather than Modern Masters but not sure) with a small (?) iconic creature types theme (dragons, angels, demons, hydras and sphinxes)
StrategyFan
Member
not sure i like how spell pierce can hit things that grab lands (like attune with aether / renegade map / whatever ixalan's basic-land-fetching artifact/spell is)
charlequin
Banned
This game will 100% have drafting. Every single competing digital CCG has a limited format; they don't all work the same, and the one here might not work 100% identical to print drafting, but it'll exist and be a major headline feature.
This game has an eight figure budget. We're not talking about something remotely in the same territory as MTGO or Duels in terms of how much they're spending on it.
What they've told us is iconic creature types and iconic spells, which is.... vague.
Imperfected
Member
Hearthstone wasn't actually enormously expensive at the time of launch, anyway. It's by far the smallest project team Blizzard has had since... The Lost Vikings, probably? And a faster development time than any of their big sequels.
It's really not a very expensive product to make, relatively speaking.
It's really not a very expensive product to make, relatively speaking.
Little Old Man
Member
What the? That's a damn strange product. Hopefully there's some useful reprints from the perspective of price entry to eternal formats... Hopefully....
They sure are releasing a lot of product in the last 6 months of the year. Commander, ixalan, iconic masters, and the un-set. Anything else?
I wonder if it will have a lower price point than eternal/modern masters.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Basically it operates under the same selection criteria as Amonkhet Invocations.
Blooddimond
Member
Their site has it listed for the same prices as eternal and modern masters
okay I laughed
SigmasonicX
Member
The entire point is to have a prerelease where no one knows the cards, like in the old days. It's a 25th Anniversary thing.
And I have a release schedule in the second post of the thread.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Is it? I thought the 25th Anniversary thing was whatever Masters set they're doing next year - Masters 25?
SigmasonicX
Member
They're both 25th Anniversary things. For some reason.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
We're 2 days away from people playing Iconic Masters and right now Iconic Masters and Masters 25 might as well be the same product because both of them have completely non-committal design goals other than somehow justifying TEN DOLLAR PACKS.
Stores generally fire up draft events for them and its on players get in on them since they tend to fire quickly (with competitive players) and stores tend to exhaust product. They're among the most controversial product releases WOTC does because so far they're all premium priced and aimed at the very hardcore player.
I've certainly done sealed of Modern Masters 2015, but MM2017 had nobody doing anything but draft - I went to a store where they would put out some product, people would sign up to draft, drop when they didn't open a Liliana or something and then join a new one just so they could spend like 100 dollars that day on opening product.
Hopefully they both combine to justify selling off my sets of Ports, Chalices, Scapeshifts, Canopys and Vials at the GP!
SigmasonicX
Member
Supplemental sets don't get prereleases, but they typically have a week of card reveals. Iconic is an exception, with a prerelease with no card reveals to evoke how things were done before Internet card reveals were a thing.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Hopefully they both combine to justify selling off my sets of Ports, Chalices, Scapeshifts, Canopys and Vials at the GP!
The problem is that I don't think any of those are going to do down all that much. Cards like Tarmogoyf and Liliana have gone down but I think part of that is how often Goyf has been printed and also the fact that neither card is as dominant as it once was because Modern's opened up a lot in recent years.
Honestly, now that I don't have a two-person income I've kind of lost interest in playing expensive formats and am just looking forward to Ixalan. But good lord does the release schedule going forward look ridiculous. It's tons of product, but I don't think I can justify ten dollar packs.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
and to sell more hascon tickets
I like how angry this is
I will agree that Iconic Masters and Masters 25, without any info pretty much sound like the exact same thing
Here's what I'm betting Iconic Masters is
- Cards people remember as their favorites
- Cards people remember as being broken
- Cards people remember as being fun to play
Here's what Masters 25 is
- Cards that are good in modern
- Cards that are good in Legacy
- Cards that are good in other formats (Commander)
These things overlap but not necessarily in the best ways
Wulfric
Member
So I just realized the people who draft this set at Hascon are gonna make some easy bank selling their pool 10 whole weeks in advance of the actual release.
I'm feeling a Rishadan Port reprint, because I need some cheap(er) foils already. Mercadian Masques foils are insane. But we don't even know what the box looks like so... *shrug*
Their playmats are good, just make sure you use the template on their website.
I'm feeling a Rishadan Port reprint, because I need some cheap(er) foils already. Mercadian Masques foils are insane. But we don't even know what the box looks like so... *shrug*
Their playmats are good, just make sure you use the template on their website.
It would be funny if we ended up hating it as much as Thoughtsieze in standard lol!
no it wouldn't. D:
Yeah how to tell Iconic Masters and Masters 25 apart so far is impossible. I'm excited for both because they can't possibly not fill the majority of my wishlist with two Eternal Masters-like sets.
The thing about Masters 25 is that they explicitly said it would have a card from every set, kinda like the 8th Edition gimmick, which can potentially be pretty cool.
The thing about Masters 25 is that they explicitly said it would have a card from every set, kinda like the 8th Edition gimmick, which can potentially be pretty cool.
SigmasonicX
Member
If they get rid of the Reserved List, I expect they'll start small, like with Thunder Spirit or something.
FreedomFrisbee
Member
Hopefully they both combine to justify selling off my sets of Ports, Chalices, Scapeshifts, Canopys and Vials at the GP!
Shouldn't you get rid of them before people know they're going to be reprinted?
Ya, I did it 15 minutes ago. (Well, actually Friday at GP DC.)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
WotC is really terrible at this stuff.
FreedomFrisbee
Member
Oh, nice. Didn't know you were in the DC area. I could have gone but I only have bulk to offload so it can wait till the SCG open in baltimore.
I am anxiously awaiting the chalice reprint to see how hard it pops, that price capped itself off because people know that a reprint kills its value.
Full Ixalan map:
(They were doing a slow rollout, but they left the full pic in their website anyway and was found with some url tweaking)
Looks like a map for one of the older Dragon Quest games!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
all 4 of the 4 flip lands spoiled so far are on this map as of note.
better than the conveniently placed rectangular mountain ranges of Middle Earth.
better than the conveniently placed rectangular mountain ranges of Middle Earth.