Mega Spooky
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That's doable.
I wonder if they're going to print something like Demonic Pact in Kaladesh. Seems like a waste to print a card like Harmless Offering with no payoff in standard.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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That's doable.
I wonder if they're going to print something like Demonic Pact in Kaladesh. Seems like a waste to print a card like Harmless Offering with no payoff in standard.
SigmasonicX
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The pun from that name/art combo is something I definitely appreciate but suspect they would change with a reprint, haha
Yeah, I also had the "this is awesome but would never fly today" thought.
Yep this list is close to my first ever Modern deck which is now 95% complete. I'm planning to finally try it out against some real decks at Modern night tomorrow.
Also, Im guessing I should sell my Liliana and Emrakul ASAP if I want to get max value right?
I mean I can't with a straight face say this would be a HUGE loss if this never came back or changed but it's kind of a bummer that an innocuous joke is now maybe off-limits? Not that there isn't a long history things things we (as a society) used to say/do that are clearly offensive nowadays and rightfully shouldn't be repeated but I feel someone has to be hyper-sensitive if this is the sort of joke that ruffles their feathers? Ah well.
Joe Molotov
Member
Yaaasss Queen!!!
Joe Molotov
Member
Nice IoK reprint.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
If only she cost just WBR and was a 2/2 then she'd be so good in Alesha.
Hold perimeter seems way worse than the tutor conspiracy.
Hold perimeter seems way worse than the tutor conspiracy.
You already know why
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh man. This set looks like a slam dunk. I mean look at this shit:
We will find out when the B/R list is updated
Joe Molotov
Member
I like the flavor of it because it encourages your opponents to fight amongst themselves the first few turns while leaving you alone. But it's definitely not a rare I'd be excited to open.
Giant Panda
Member
It's seems like they been doing this more often recently though.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Pretty much. The mythic one also seems way too build around considering you'll need a lot of draw in your deck to play it and you also seemingly still need a 40 card deck meaning you want to draft something to be able to remove cards from your pool.
Basically pray to open it in pack 1.
does the omission of a word count as a typo?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
$$$$$$$$$$$
"God's Beard!"
Member
typographical error
playing blood moon with utopia sprawls and arbor elves seems a little greedy
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Honestly bugs me so much....
Edit: I'm clueless, what constitutes a "Ponza" deck? I don't think I get the reference, assuming there is one.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So this is a thing
shrapnelmagnet
Member
So this is a thing
5/4 flying for 4 with no downside, aside from draft. Fun!
Sengir Vampire cries in a corner somewhere..
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
probably gonna have to use your entire pool and why you'd want to draft the conspiracy early.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This is going to be so much fun
Source
So this is a thing
Is this even that great? I guess it will be a race to draft this card as late as possible
Doing colored versions of these cards was a good idea IMO
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
As an edh player that doesn't draft, this set is very annoying lol. I am not the target audience
Conspiracy 1 was amazing for EDH. Reprints and new staples.
Granted we are just looking at first day spoilers, I was specifically referring to all of today's.
SigmasonicX
Member
Looking back, I probably should have created an "opening post" for Conspiracy 2. Whatever, I'll do it now.
Announcement
Release Date: August 26, 2016
Number of Cards: 221
MSRP: $3.99 per booster pack
The throne no longer sits empty, but deception, danger, and even death await around every corner.
Add deeper layers of intrigue to your next Magic draft and begin plotting as soon as you open your first booster pack! The Conspiracy: Take the Crown set builds on the revolutionary abilities introduced in the original Magic: The Gathering—Conspiracy set, with new cards that affect the draft itself and new conspiracies that twist the rules against your foes. Trade votes and spread your attacks to manipulate the game in your favor. Seize the crown to give yourself a greater edge—if you can keep it.
How will you plot your way to the throne?
This set is designed for eight-player drafts followed by free-for-all games of three to five players each.
Story
CARD THEMES
Official card list (alternate, includes leaks)
Official mechanics list
Draft matters
Like Conspiracy before it, the battle begins before you even have any matches, during the draft. There are various cards that care about how you draft, including cards that have you note actions you take, which affects what effects they have during an actual match. But most notable are the conspiracy cards, a card type that first appeared in Conspiracy. They aren't considered part of your deck, but if you draft them, you may start the game with them in the command zone (where they can't be interacted with), and they will provide various effects. One new thing is colored conspiracies. The actual color of the conspiracy doesn't matter, but it signifies to the drafter that it's best not to draft them if you aren't in the specified color. Hidden agenda returns, which allows you to start the with game with the conspiracy face down and secretly write down a name. When you turn it face up, some effect involving that name happens. New for this set is double agenda, which has you secretly note two names and has an effect involving both when you turn the conspiracy face up.
The monarch
The monarch is a new concept for Magic: a designation that a player may have during the game. The game starts with no monarch, but there are three ways to become one:
* Use a card like the above that says you become the monarch.
* Deal combat damage to the monarch, whereupon you become the monarch.
* The current monarch leaves the game. If this happened during your turn, you become the monarch. If this happened during that player's turn, the next player becomes the monarch.
So why become the monarch? At the beginning of your end step, you draw a card! And there are some cards that are stronger if you're the monarch. But be careful, because this paints a target on you.
Voting
Many cards will ask players to take a vote using council's dilemma, choosing between two options. This time, every vote matters, as the cards will care about the number of votes for each option, as opposed to the majority. Still, it's worth talking to the other players to get things to work out the way you want. Or if you don't want to bother, there are always other ways...
*throws a folded chair*
All this political unrest is leading to civil unrest. Melee gives the creature a boost for each player you attack at once, making sure everyone gets some. Note that the boost applies even if you attack one player, and doesn't apply if you attack planeswalkers. Goad can force a turtling player to get in on the action by making a creature attack any player, as long as it's not you. And finally, monstrosity returns as a late-game mana sink. When you pay a creature's monstrosity cost, if it's not monstrous, it gains the designated number of +1/+1 counters and becomes monstrous, which can trigger an ability or give it a new permanent ability. You can only activate this ability once.
HIGHLIGHTS
Monday - August 15
Mothership spoilers (above)
Inquisition of Kozilek (above)
Archdemon of Paliano (above)
Arcane Savant (above)
Assemble the Rank and Vile, Custodi Peacekeeper
Thorn of the Black Rose
Ballot Broker
Burning Wish
Protector of the Throne
Tuesday - August 16
Custodi Lich, Hallowed Burial
Mothership spoilers - Adriana, etc.
Recruiter of the Guard
Phyrexian Arena
Desertion
Expropriate, Exotic Orchard
Wednesday - August 17
Spy Kit
Keeper of Keys
Mothership - Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast
Mothership - Leovold, Emissary of Trest
Serum Visions, Sanctum Prelate
Burgeoning
Magic Story - Bloody Instructions
Wild Pair, Entourage of Trest
Duskmantle Seer, Weight Advantage
Thursday - August 18
Dragonlair Spider, Illusory Informant, Spire Phantasm
Mothership - Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Mothership - Skyline Despot
Berserk
Volatile Chimera, Garbage Fire
Subterranean Tremors
Show and Tell
Regal Behemoth
Birds of Paradise
Friday - August 19
Hymn of the Wilds
Mothership - Selvala, Heart of the Wilds; Stunt Double
Caller of the Untamed
Incendiary Dissent
Splitting Slime
Games Laboratory exhibition draft reveals - Regicide, Ghostly Prison, Gratuitous Violence, etc.
Saturday - August 20
Warez Gaming exhibition draft reveals - Pariah, Platinum Angel, etc.
Selvala's Stampede
Sunday - August 21
SCG New Jersey Player Invitational
Monday - August 22
Full spoiler
Later events covered back in the first highlights post in this thread.
Announcement
Release Date: August 26, 2016
Number of Cards: 221
MSRP: $3.99 per booster pack
The throne no longer sits empty, but deception, danger, and even death await around every corner.
Add deeper layers of intrigue to your next Magic draft and begin plotting as soon as you open your first booster pack! The Conspiracy: Take the Crown set builds on the revolutionary abilities introduced in the original Magic: The Gathering—Conspiracy set, with new cards that affect the draft itself and new conspiracies that twist the rules against your foes. Trade votes and spread your attacks to manipulate the game in your favor. Seize the crown to give yourself a greater edge—if you can keep it.
How will you plot your way to the throne?
This set is designed for eight-player drafts followed by free-for-all games of three to five players each.
Story
CARD THEMES
Official card list (alternate, includes leaks)
Official mechanics list
Draft matters
Like Conspiracy before it, the battle begins before you even have any matches, during the draft. There are various cards that care about how you draft, including cards that have you note actions you take, which affects what effects they have during an actual match. But most notable are the conspiracy cards, a card type that first appeared in Conspiracy. They aren't considered part of your deck, but if you draft them, you may start the game with them in the command zone (where they can't be interacted with), and they will provide various effects. One new thing is colored conspiracies. The actual color of the conspiracy doesn't matter, but it signifies to the drafter that it's best not to draft them if you aren't in the specified color. Hidden agenda returns, which allows you to start the with game with the conspiracy face down and secretly write down a name. When you turn it face up, some effect involving that name happens. New for this set is double agenda, which has you secretly note two names and has an effect involving both when you turn the conspiracy face up.
The monarch
The monarch is a new concept for Magic: a designation that a player may have during the game. The game starts with no monarch, but there are three ways to become one:
* Use a card like the above that says you become the monarch.
* Deal combat damage to the monarch, whereupon you become the monarch.
* The current monarch leaves the game. If this happened during your turn, you become the monarch. If this happened during that player's turn, the next player becomes the monarch.
So why become the monarch? At the beginning of your end step, you draw a card! And there are some cards that are stronger if you're the monarch. But be careful, because this paints a target on you.
Voting
Many cards will ask players to take a vote using council's dilemma, choosing between two options. This time, every vote matters, as the cards will care about the number of votes for each option, as opposed to the majority. Still, it's worth talking to the other players to get things to work out the way you want. Or if you don't want to bother, there are always other ways...
*throws a folded chair*
All this political unrest is leading to civil unrest. Melee gives the creature a boost for each player you attack at once, making sure everyone gets some. Note that the boost applies even if you attack one player, and doesn't apply if you attack planeswalkers. Goad can force a turtling player to get in on the action by making a creature attack any player, as long as it's not you. And finally, monstrosity returns as a late-game mana sink. When you pay a creature's monstrosity cost, if it's not monstrous, it gains the designated number of +1/+1 counters and becomes monstrous, which can trigger an ability or give it a new permanent ability. You can only activate this ability once.
HIGHLIGHTS
Monday - August 15
Mothership spoilers (above)
Inquisition of Kozilek (above)
Archdemon of Paliano (above)
Arcane Savant (above)
Assemble the Rank and Vile, Custodi Peacekeeper
Thorn of the Black Rose
Ballot Broker
Burning Wish
Protector of the Throne
Tuesday - August 16
Custodi Lich, Hallowed Burial
Mothership spoilers - Adriana, etc.
Recruiter of the Guard
Phyrexian Arena
Desertion
Expropriate, Exotic Orchard
Wednesday - August 17
Spy Kit
Keeper of Keys
Mothership - Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast
Mothership - Leovold, Emissary of Trest
Serum Visions, Sanctum Prelate
Burgeoning
Magic Story - Bloody Instructions
Wild Pair, Entourage of Trest
Duskmantle Seer, Weight Advantage
Thursday - August 18
Dragonlair Spider, Illusory Informant, Spire Phantasm
Mothership - Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Mothership - Skyline Despot
Berserk
Volatile Chimera, Garbage Fire
Subterranean Tremors
Show and Tell
Regal Behemoth
Birds of Paradise
Friday - August 19
Hymn of the Wilds
Mothership - Selvala, Heart of the Wilds; Stunt Double
Caller of the Untamed
Incendiary Dissent
Splitting Slime
Games Laboratory exhibition draft reveals - Regicide, Ghostly Prison, Gratuitous Violence, etc.
Saturday - August 20
Warez Gaming exhibition draft reveals - Pariah, Platinum Angel, etc.
Selvala's Stampede
Sunday - August 21
SCG New Jersey Player Invitational
Monday - August 22
Full spoiler
Later events covered back in the first highlights post in this thread.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I love the idea of having a Monarch commander since once it's in the game it can't be removed and someone will always be monarch even if the marchesa player is out.
If only she could slot into Alesha.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
friend of mine opened this
then got passed this
then got passed this just when it got good stats
and easily won.
ThLunarian
Member
Wow, Sovereign's Realm is shockingly bad. No one is ever going to use that card. Ever. What were they thinking?
Edit: I was interpreting it wrong. Not so bad after all.
Edit: I was interpreting it wrong. Not so bad after all.
SigmasonicX
Member
It's a bit oddly worded, but it allows you to play any card as a basic land (assuming you have a bunch outside the game with you), and basic lands can produce any color of mana. You never have to worry about drawing lands, and you never have to worry about being color screwed, all for the low cost of starting with two less cards. You will probably have to include draft chaff in your deck to get up to 40, but you can just "play them as lands". It seems good to me.
ThLunarian
Member
Yep, I thought I was missing something. I didn't take into account that you're getting your investment of a card back by playing a land from outside the game. I like it now.
SigmasonicX
Member
Edited this into my previous post, but the above post appeared before that, so this might be better as its own post.
Some interesting things from Making Magic and the Feature article:
* Shawn Main was asked to start work on Conspiracy 2 only a few weeks after the first came out.
* The monarch was extremely similar to a mechanic earmarked for Ham block (after Kaladesh and Barrel), one that was allocated for that block from earliest planning. Ultimately, they concluded that monarch was too good a fit for Conspiracy 2 and Ham was in early planning anyway, so they decided to come up with something else for the latter. Everyone start speculating now.
* Goad was an attempt to give red a good multiplayer mechanic. It fits in mechanically and philosophy, while allowing red to direct damage away from itself.
* In the original Conspiracy, Marchesa was the only legend in design. It was entirely the creative team that fleshed out the world and requested other legends to be included.
Some interesting things from Making Magic and the Feature article:
* Shawn Main was asked to start work on Conspiracy 2 only a few weeks after the first came out.
* The monarch was extremely similar to a mechanic earmarked for Ham block (after Kaladesh and Barrel), one that was allocated for that block from earliest planning. Ultimately, they concluded that monarch was too good a fit for Conspiracy 2 and Ham was in early planning anyway, so they decided to come up with something else for the latter. Everyone start speculating now.
* Goad was an attempt to give red a good multiplayer mechanic. It fits in mechanically and philosophy, while allowing red to direct damage away from itself.
* In the original Conspiracy, Marchesa was the only legend in design. It was entirely the creative team that fleshed out the world and requested other legends to be included.
What a waste of a perfectly fine art.So this is a thing
I would draft this set if it didn't have conspiracies.
Joe Molotov
Member
Is this even that great? I guess it will be a race to draft this card as late as possible
P1P1 slam it down and then stare your opponent right in the eyes while taking your next three cards.
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