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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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"God's Beard!"
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Super best friends LSV and Paul Cheon having remarkably consistent finishes lately.
LSV went from bombing for a couple years to three top 8s in a row and Paul Cheon went from a guy that can't win a match on day two to two top 20 placings in three PTs.
The CFB teams really churn out results.
LSV went from bombing for a couple years to three top 8s in a row and Paul Cheon went from a guy that can't win a match on day two to two top 20 placings in three PTs.
The CFB teams really churn out results.
Isn't Mori a well known cheater?
TheBlackMarvel
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What a way to lose lol.
LSV responded to the trigger both times by sacrificing selfless spirit, so there was no need to flash it back.
GregLombardi
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So is it true LSV is the first player to make 3 top 8s in a row since 1998?
GregLombardi
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Yes. In fact, if you go back and watch that match, Emrakul's casting of COCO leads directly to LSV's win by putting the one card that got him out of it (Tamiyo) on top of his library after 6 cards, if I remember correctly.
Edit: I should correct myself. It puts Tamiyo in exactly the right position in his deck for him to draw it and win the game off of it. I can't remember the exact sequence but it was absolutely ridiculous.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Selfless Spirit is almost as important to pushing Bant CoCo as Spell Queller. Not all decks run black and Languish.
What's the decklists now of the top 8?
Technically it's a better Corpse Churn or whatever variants there are of that effect on spells.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptemn/top-8-decklists-2016-08-06
Lots of Delirium and Emerge plus 2 Bant Company decks.
10 Emrakuls
10 Ishkanah
16 Traverse the Ulvenwald
in the top 8
Lots of Delirium and Emerge plus 2 Bant Company decks.
10 Emrakuls
10 Ishkanah
16 Traverse the Ulvenwald
in the top 8
Fetching a land is huge, dude. Anticipate was played in control decks just to smooth out mana and get land drops every turn. And late game it fetches your biggest threat. And it fuels Delirium. It's better than Anticipate in almost every way.
Get ready for another year of green midrange, boys.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Where were humans? They already had a decent CoCo matchup and should have destroyed most of the greedy Emrakul lists. Seriously some of those decks do nothing but grind through their deck for the first 4 turns. Turn 5 is probably the earliest time you'd ever see an Emrakul turn 6/7 usually more likely. There's only 4 Kozilek's Returns and the spell side the weenies quickly outgrow. And if you have Thalia out Emrakul does next to nothing.
BG Delirium definitely profited from Bant CoCo both being less prominent than expected and being hated out at large.
BG Delirium definitely profited from Bant CoCo both being less prominent than expected and being hated out at large.
Agreed but it's a rather different effect. Also Sylvan Advocate and Tireless tracker alone guarantee green midrange success.
A Serious Man
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Is magiccards.info abandoned? Still no EMN and they still haven't updated their Standard filter to include the rotation that happened with SOI.
Hedonist's Trove. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Hedonist's Trove. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Learn From the Past is your best bet.
Giant Panda
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Which green card are you referring to?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Pretty sure he means grapple with the past. Mill 3 get a creature or land from the yard.
I wonder how much Den Protector rotating out will hurt green. They have pulse of murasa as a regrowth but that can't be tutored and doesn't develop the board with evasion. Greenwarden Murasa costs 6 but gives you twice the recursion.
They are also losing origins Nissa. Other decks mostly lose a reason to splash blue.
This is my favorite moment of the thread during the PT so far.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm sober now and still don't know what any of that means.
This is intentional, they said they didn't make cards that dealt with GY because of Delirium which is partially why Rally was so good last season.
blindrocket
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WTT:
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
for your
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
for your
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
SigmasonicX
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Which implied that the reason why Reid Duke and Owen Turtenwald have bad hair is because they chose to spend money on cards over their haircuts.
"God's Beard!" was implying that the reason why Gaby Spartz has good hair is because he's rich.
Anyway, looking at the top 8 decks.
* Lots of Gnarlwood Dryad.
* Reid Duke's deck has Ulvenwald Hydra mainboard, and Roast, Greenwarden of Murasa, and Shaman of Forgotten Ways in the sideboard.
* Yuta Takahashi's Bant CoCo deck has Caustic Caterpillar in the sideboard.
* Andrew Brown's deck is one I hadn't seen. I'm especially surprised by Lashwood Lurker and Primal Druid.
* Owen Turtenwald's deck has Pilgrim's Eye and Corrupted Grafstone mainboard, and Invasive Surgery in the sideboard.
* Ken Yukuhiro's deck has four Collective Defiance and four Tormenting Voice mainboard, and three Weaver of Lightning in the sideboard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Here's a list of just the standard records.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptemn/24-28-point-standard-decklists-2016-08-06
Including a fevered visions deck that went 9-1 playing 4 Thermo-Alchemist but only 2 Jaces
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptemn/24-28-point-standard-decklists-2016-08-06
Including a fevered visions deck that went 9-1 playing 4 Thermo-Alchemist but only 2 Jaces
SigmasonicX
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Concerning graveyard hate in Standard that has any chance of being playable, other than milling, there's:
* Dragonlord Kolaghan
* Graveyard shuffling from Learn from the Past, as mentioned, and Day's Undoing (maybe it's time to live up to the hype)
* Incidental targeted exiling with Not Forgotten and Shamble Back
Honestly surprised that was was no graveyard exiling at all (other than Hedonist's Trove).
* Dragonlord Kolaghan
* Graveyard shuffling from Learn from the Past, as mentioned, and Day's Undoing (maybe it's time to live up to the hype)
* Incidental targeted exiling with Not Forgotten and Shamble Back
Honestly surprised that was was no graveyard exiling at all (other than Hedonist's Trove).
Gaby Spartz is a women. Women have on average nicer hair than men. That said, their hair isn't that bad. I think it's just a statement that they don't really care about how their hair is done. I've seen far worse haircuts in the Magic crowd but I won't judge people over that, even though I'm pretty self aware about my hair and appearance.
SigmasonicX
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Ah, my mistake
* Pedro Carvalho's Fevered Visions deck is interesting.
* Benjamin Nikolich's running Mono-White Humans. One of those decks did well after all.
* Pedro Carvalho's Fevered Visions deck is interesting.
* Benjamin Nikolich's running Mono-White Humans. One of those decks did well after all.
"God's Beard!"
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Made a bracket.
It's at this point in the FGC I'd be looking for side bets. Kinda funny how the game with more play skill also has more gambling in the community.
C'est la vie.
It's at this point in the FGC I'd be looking for side bets. Kinda funny how the game with more play skill also has more gambling in the community.
C'est la vie.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, Reid Duke isn't a bad looking dude, he just doesn't seem to give a shit that he's rocking the bowl haircut my mom gave me when I was 8
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Exactly Reid is jacked, he clearly keeps in shape. That haircut though is hideous.
I don't see the issue with Owen's though it looked fine, miles better than when he shaved. The real crime was his backpack.
I wonder how the meta will look past the PT, GW tokens was one thing but there aren't any decks there that CoCo shouldn't be able to beat if they tech against the match up.
I don't see the issue with Owen's though it looked fine, miles better than when he shaved. The real crime was his backpack.
I wonder how the meta will look past the PT, GW tokens was one thing but there aren't any decks there that CoCo shouldn't be able to beat if they tech against the match up.
"God's Beard!"
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Shave a Dromoka's Command for an Ojutai's Command in the main and probably try to get even more Tempo-based. Thalia is really good against the ramp creatures but pretty bad against Kozilek's Return so I dunno.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";212665278]Shave a Dromoka's Command for an Ojutai's Command in the main and probably try to get even more Tempo-based. Thalia is really good against the ramp creatures but pretty bad against Kozilek's Return so I dunno.[/QUOTE]
selfless spirit should already cover the kozilek's return but I'd just play Summary Dismissal over Ojutai's Command if the decks consist through the PT. Which also covers the Kozilek's return.
selfless spirit should already cover the kozilek's return but I'd just play Summary Dismissal over Ojutai's Command if the decks consist through the PT. Which also covers the Kozilek's return.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Thalia is ridiculous
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah I was playing 4 of her in my build but obviously I didn't get to play against any of the PT decks. There's a lot more basic lands and efficient red removal than I expected.
Also, my call of 0 emerge creatures in top 8 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. My predictive qualities are getting fucked more than Leroy "Blast" Black right now.
Can confirm
blindrocket
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Hatebears / Death and Taxes keeps getting some sweet additions.
A Serious Man
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About to start flashin' the cash and rebuild my paper collection. I need binder/accessory recommendations though as I have pretty much nothing. I enjoy organizing and keeping a neat collection so any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
My wife loves to organize. I play, she organizes. It's a match made in heaven
A Serious Man
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Thanks, where can I find one of those?
tcgplayer?
I recommend the 4x4 binder. Having your cards displayed like that feel soooo good mang
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JNT0L80/?tag=neogaf0e-20
blindrocket
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I need to get busy and do this too. It's insane when I'm trying to hunt down that one last card for a deck that I know I have, and I end up having to thumb through everything.
What I use right now are those flat white cardboard boxes made for cards, along with a few of those Magic boxes they make for starter sets or whatever they are called.
blindrocket
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Do you think that with Liliana, the Last Hope, there are enough legitimate Zombies (and maybe a Vampire) to make a viable Zombie deck in Modern?
Or maybe it is just the casual player in me trying to dream up a sweet kitchen table deck...
Or maybe it is just the casual player in me trying to dream up a sweet kitchen table deck...
Yup, insane card. I already liked Imposing Sovereing a lot, Thalia's a super souped up Sovereign.
I'm struggling to figure out how to deal with CoCo into Reflector Mage, and the best I got as an answer in the sideboard is Hallowed Moonlight + Center Soul.
Center counters the targeting, Hallowed Moonlight is just for the straight up kill the CoCo.
Other than that, I can have a real hard time struggling against Bant Company.
I've upped my counts of Incendiary Flow and Ride Down to increase the likelihood of removing creatures, but Selfless Spirit is fucking insane
Flow being sorcery speed doesn't help.
I've figured out the missing bullet: An equipment that gives hexproof. If one shows up in Kaladesh, I'm running it.
Maro said that there's a sword coming up that is probably the best yet, so it's likely a new Sword of _____ and _____ is coming.
holy shit autocardanywhere :lol
Center counters the targeting, Hallowed Moonlight is just for the straight up kill the CoCo.
Other than that, I can have a real hard time struggling against Bant Company.
I've upped my counts of Incendiary Flow and Ride Down to increase the likelihood of removing creatures, but Selfless Spirit is fucking insane
Flow being sorcery speed doesn't help.
I've figured out the missing bullet: An equipment that gives hexproof. If one shows up in Kaladesh, I'm running it.
Maro said that there's a sword coming up that is probably the best yet, so it's likely a new Sword of _____ and _____ is coming.
holy shit autocardanywhere :lol
Played a few hours of EDH at my friend's newly-opened shop today. Was really nice being back in that location (same location as the last two card stores that closed). One game I Oona'ed about a dozen lands from one mono-black player, then the other player played Oblivion Sower to get a million lands in play, then they played Avenger of Zendikar and go a bunch of plants.
Topdeck Yawgmoth's Will to rebuy Massacre Wurm for like 50 life loss. First time playing this EDH deck with people, really liking it (mono-black Oona).
Topdeck Yawgmoth's Will to rebuy Massacre Wurm for like 50 life loss. First time playing this EDH deck with people, really liking it (mono-black Oona).
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