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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2014 (May 05 - May 11)

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StreetsAhead

Member
Smiles and Cries said:
I am not going to be able to stop myself from looking at X spoilers if this is not a worldwide release

I thought, nevermind you edited June
June has Mario Kart DLC Believe!
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DLC would be nice, yeah. Who knows what's happening with X WW at this point. Just hoping they stick with 2014.

KingSnake said:
What about the Gamepad Enforcer game? (they mentioned more, but at list one should be close to completion)
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Oh, maybe. I also forgot Fatal Frame, although I imagine that'll be out around the same time as the movie.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
King Gilga said:
PS4 hitting sub 10k before the WiiU?

Hot damn.

Vita's not looking too great either.

I wonder what's keeping the 3DS sales up there, doesn't seem like it's mario golf, that 3DS LL promotion maybe?
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WiiU is still doing sub 10k despite being nearly halfway through its 2nd year. Lets see how PS4 fares.
 
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antibolo

Banned
The PS4 still remains the top selling home console despite not having any games for it.

I don't know about you guys but I see it as a success.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
antibolo said:
The PS4 still remains the top selling home console despite not having any games for it.

I don't know about you guys but I see it as a success.
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Indeed but the Wii U #Champion is coming for the throne during Mario Kart week. Then the streams will cross and it'll start consistently outselling the PS4 and become the new king!
 
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Ty4on

Member
Frodo said:
I'll leave my prediction for Mario Kart 8 here, just because:

I'm predicting 300-350k units for MK8 and 55k Wii Us sold on the opening week.

Hype. Is. On.

Hope. Is. On.
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Similar to my predictions for MK8 (maybe more like 350), but I predict the WiiU will do better. Nintendo consoles seem so spiky. The WiiU sold like 3k for weeks in the Autumn, but then December came and it hit 100k...
Gotta be specific so fuck it, 80k :D
 
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antibolo

Banned
Frodo said:
I'll leave my prediction for Mario Kart 8 here, just because:

I'm predicting 300-350k units for MK8 and 55k Wii Us sold on the opening week.

Hype. Is. On.

Hope. Is. On.
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lol no.

MK8 will not break the 100k mark. The install base is just not there to reach higher numbers.
 
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Cassovia

Member
The console market in Japan is definitely in different shape as it used to be and we all know from historical point of view that Japanese gaming market is usually a glimpse of what will come.

I think, that Sony will be riding on western success for a time being. At least until the games that appeal to this market arrive and at the same time, they can use the western sales as an article in negotiating with Japanese developers.
 
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AniHawk

Member
shinra-bansho said:
I'm using the term in the same way NPD is using it for the most part.

DVD playback was a good value add. I don't know how accurate it is to say that it wasn't selling primarily as a video game player though. It managed a large attach rate despite the largest installed base of all time.

Essentially all I'm saying is that the 360 took the bulk of the US audience that bought the PS2 in the 6th gen, the TTM unit sales have remained mostly flat save cyclical peaks and troughs for a good 10 years.
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the ps2 is an amazing console in how much it sold and how well the games sold. but what i'm comparing are the first year of each platform. the 360 doesn't compare favorably to the ps2, despite doing well. it did eventually take in a lot of the ps2's audience though, yes, but it wasn't a flip of the switch like it appears the transition to the ps4 was.
 
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vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
antibolo said:
lol no.

MK8 will not break the 100k mark. The install base is just not there to reach higher numbers.
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Tell us more about your crystal ball.

Seriously though, the title should easily break 100k. My personal bet is an opening above 200k.
 
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Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
antibolo said:
The PS4 still remains the top selling home console despite not having any games for it.

I don't know about you guys but I see it as a success.
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Cassovia said:
The console market in Japan is definitely in different shape as it used to be and we all know from historical point of view that Japanese gaming market is usually a glimpse of what will come.

I think, that Sony will be riding on western success for a time being. At least until the games that appeal to this market arrive and at the same time, they can use the western sales as an article in negotiating with Japanese developers.
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JP accounted for 13% of PS2 sales and 12% of PS3. Sony has always known the West to be far more important to the console market.
 
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mclem

Member
Soriku said:
There's not much reason to assume they wouldn't, unless they've blocked videos like that in the past.
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In all the certification requirements I've seen, reference to rival companies or systems is a major no-no. We've had to change attract mode videos because a PS2 button prompt was fleetingly visible.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
sörine;112084321 said:
PS4's at what 7-8% roughly? And declining?
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Its silly to draw comparisons with the PS4 since the PS2/3 figures are LTD's.

However I am sure JP accounted for a lot more during the first 6 months of PS2/3 because:

1) (biggest reason) PS4 is doing tremendously well in the West.
2) PS2 in JP was a beast.
 
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Frodo

Member
Ty4on said:
Similar to my predictions for MK8 (maybe more like 350), but I predict the WiiU will do better. Nintendo consoles seem so spiky. The WiiU sold like 3k for weeks in the Autumn, but then December came and it hit 100k...
Gotta be specific so fuck it, 80k :D
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I don't think it is impossible for it to reach 80k, but ignoring the holidays spikes, all the other bumps when important games launched were so small that I decided to be more conservative... :)
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
antibolo said:
lol no.

MK8 will not break the 100k mark. The install base is just not there to reach higher numbers.
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There are over 1.7 million WiiU owners in Japan. That means that about 6% of the current WiiU owners in Japan have to buy Mario Kart 8 in the first 4 days (1st week) for it to sell 100k. Or to put it more dramatically, about 94% of all WiiU owners would have to skip out on Mario Kart 8 in the 1st week of release. So the install base is more than big enough to support a 100k number the first week :) Then i also havnt accounted for people who will buy a WiiU at Mario Kart 8 launch week, so it might be 5% instead of 6% as i mentioned above here.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.
 
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Ty4on

Member
Frodo said:
I don't think it is impossible for it to reach 80k, but ignoring the holidays spikes, all the other bumps when important games launched were so small that I decided to be more conservative... :)
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I don't think there has been a game this big. Maybe just me, but 3D World looks quite boring in comparison and "seen it before" with NSMBU which isn't that different.

80K could be way too high, but I decided to take a chance and believe some really underestimate it. I believe this is the WiiU's Melee, just a little late :p
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
Not sure if this has been posted but KOEI's CEO mentioned in a recent interview that he is expecting more than 1 million copies of Hyrule Warriors to be sold worldwide.

He also mentioned that KOEI are working on collaboration titles, one coming later this year (could be Fatal Frame?) and another one which targets the Western market but this may come a bit later.
 
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LOCK

Member
ZhugeEX said:
Not sure if this has been posted but KOEI's CEO mentioned in a recent interview that he is expecting more than 1 million copies of Hyrule Warriors to be sold worldwide.

He also mentioned that KOEI are working on collaboration titles, one coming later this year (could be Fatal Frame?) and another one which targets the Western market but this may come a bit later.
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For once I think they will meet that goal. I'm going to assume the other collaboration is with Nintendo as well. Wonder what it could be?
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
LOCK said:
For once I think they will meet that goal. I'm going to assume the other collaboration is with Nintendo as well. Wonder what it could be?
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Well in their earning presentation for FY2013 Koei mentioned that they would increase the number of "collaboration" titles. The main ones for this year are Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn and Hyrule Warriors of course. They also mentioned a collaboration game coming in the second half of the fiscal year (Oct 2014-Mar 2015) which could possibly be Fatal Frame 5 with Nintendo. Or maybe something completely different.

They also mentioned another collaboration with more Western IP/Dev targeted for the western market. The CEO said

We still can't announce it yet, but by following the patterns of domestic successes, we'd like to try proceeding collaborations with an overseas major game maker, or it could be a movie company, TV show, anything else. It doesn't mean it can be announced within this year, but you can please look forward in 2~3 years.
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So looks like KOEI are looking for some western IP to make a game out of.

You can read my summary of Koei Tecmo's fiscal year here-
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7192992/1/
 
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RalchAC

Member
ZhugeEX said:
So looks like KOEI are looking for some western IP to make a game out of.

You can read my summary of Koei Tecmo's fiscal year here-
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7192992/1/
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It's makes me happy to see this (kinda) small companies doing well. Dynasty Warriors is an underrated series imo and Toukiden was a really good game.

They've said they're expecting EU sales to grow the most... could that mean the collaboration they're teasing for second half of the FY is a popular IP here?

I'm quite curious about what this collaboration could be.
 
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michaelius

Banned
I'm putting my bet on Game of Thrones musou. Perfect franchise for it currently raiding wave of popularity due to TV series and I think noone has exclusive rights to make video games on it unlike star wars.

And GoT itself is like Dynasty Warriors conquest mode :D
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Toukiden was a great hit for Tecmo though I don't see it growing much.

I really don't think its going to be a new Ip but I would love it to be. My guess is something DW.
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
RalchAC said:
It's makes me happy to see this (kinda) small companies doing well. Dynasty Warriors is an underrated series imo and Toukiden was a really good game.
I'm quite curious about what this collaboration could be.
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I agree. I'm a huge Koei fan as you can probably tell so it's great to see them doing fairly well.

michaelius said:
I'm putting my bet on Game of Thrones musou. Perfect franchise for it currently raiding wave of popularity due to TV series and I think noone has exclusive rights to make video games on it unlike star wars.

And GoT itself is like Dynasty Warriors conquest mode :D
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Now that's not a half bad idea. Not sure I can see Koei doing it though.

Psycho_Mantis said:
Toukiden was a great hit for Tecmo though I don't see it growing much.

I really don't think its going to be a new Ip but I would love it to be. My guess is something DW.
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Toukiden is already expanding. Toukiden Kiwami is coming soon for PSV/PSP and Toukiden Quiz Battle is coming soon for iOS/Android. Koei seem set on expanding the Toukiden IP. The first game did very well for a new niche IP.
 
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michaelius

Banned
ZhugeEX said:
Toukiden is already expanding. Toukiden Kiwami is coming soon for PSV/PSP and Toukiden Quiz Battle is coming soon for iOS/Android. Koei seem set on expanding the Toukiden IP. The first game did very well for a new niche IP.
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It did as well as mainline DW games do so it's not really niche ip for them.
 
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RalchAC

Member
michaelius said:
It did as well as mainline DW games do so it's not really niche ip for them.
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I still think they should do a homeconsole version for Toukiden 2. It won't outsold the handheld version in Japan but in the West it'd be quite a wise choice.

And seeing how they did a 360 version for their Musou games for years, I think they actually have the western market in mind to some extend.

It could just be a 1080p/60fps (<-since people love to hear this) Vita version with better lighting, textures. People don't really expect graphical marvels from publishers like Tecmo anyway.

They use the musou engine for this game, right? It shouldn't be that hard to adapt the game for other platforms then.
 
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AniHawk

Member
1st Course said:
Nippon Ichi closed 14%+ down today on Tokyo stock exchange

https://www.google.com/finance?q=TYO:3851&ei=nOR1U-iSJoaCwAO33ID4BQ

What is going on?
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fiscal year report came out
http://nippon1.co.jp/news/pdf/2014/20140515.pdf

2014:
operating income: 580m yen
net income: 481m yen

2013:
operating income: (181m yen) - loss of $1.78m
net income: (215m yen) - loss of $2.12m

for the next fiscal year they're expecting to make roughly $1.5m operating income and $1.4m net income.

according to this, nis america had a net income of $1.3m

disgaea series has sold 9m units to date.
 
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1st Course

Member
AniHawk said:
fiscal year report came out
http://nippon1.co.jp/news/pdf/2014/20140515.pdf

operating income: (181m yen) - loss of $1.78m
net income: (215m yen) - loss of $2.12m

for the next fiscal year they're expecting to make roughly $1.5m operating income and $1.4m net income.

according to this, nis america had a net income of $1.3m

disgaea series has sold 9m units to date.
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Thanks. Looking at the PSF it seems like they had a big drop in revenue (assuming that is their income statement in page 15), did they explain why?
 
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Road

Member
AniHawk said:
fiscal year report came out
http://nippon1.co.jp/news/pdf/2014/20140515.pdf

operating income: (181m yen) - loss of $1.78m
net income: (215m yen) - loss of $2.12m

for the next fiscal year they're expecting to make roughly $1.5m operating income and $1.4m net income.

according to this, nis america had a net income of $1.3m

disgaea series has sold 9m units to date.
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Did duckroll feed you this translation? =P

You're looking at the wrong lines. They had their best results in years.

Here's a page in English for quick reference:
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...ts/company/kessan/shihyo.aspx?scode=3851&ba=9

But they didn't forecast an increase. They expect loss in the first half of the next fiscal year and a small profit by the end (numbers at the end of the first page in the pdf).

(If you noticed the dividends: they split 1 stock in 200, so this year's is actually double of last year's).

And it's the "Witch and the Hundred Knight" that has sold 90k.

That all said, I don't know if that's the only reason their stock is down. Maybe there's more in the PDF, but reading it would take me a entire day.
 
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Moor-Angol

Banned
Am I wrong or this is the first time we have data for both 3DS and 3DS LL and Vita and Vita TV for Famitsu numbers ?

I was taking a look at Vita TV numbers using M-C and then I noticed this week they appear also in Famitsu, so according to the latter, Vita TV has almost reached PSP Go numbers, after 26 weeks PSP Go sold 104,831 units, Vita TV sold 103,626 units

If we consider M-C numbers, Vita TV has already passed PSP Go (110,980 vs. 102,758)
 
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DaBoss

Member
Moor-Angol said:
Am I wrong or this is the first time we have data for both 3DS and 3DS LL and Vita and Vita TV for Famitsu numbers ?

I was taking a look at Vita TV numbers using M-C and then I noticed this week they appear also in Famitsu, so according to the latter, Vita TV has almost reached PSP Go numbers, after 26 weeks PSP Go sold 104,831 units, Vita TV sold 103,626 units
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MCV has been giving them out every week for this FY I believe. Chris used the MCV numbers for this week because they were available early and it had the top 10 for Famitsu translated as well.

They were never posted in the OP before.
 
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AniHawk

Member
Road said:
Did duckroll feed you this translation? =P

You're looking at the wrong lines. They had their best results in years.

Here's a page in English for quick reference:
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...ts/company/kessan/shihyo.aspx?scode=3851&ba=9

But they didn't forecast an increase. They expect loss in the first half of the next fiscal year and a small profit by the end (numbers at the end of the first page in the pdf).

(If you noticed the dividends: they split 1 stock in 200, so this year's is actually double of last year's).

And it's the "Witch and the Hundred Knight" that has sold 90k.

That all said, I don't know if that's the only reason their stock is down. Maybe there's more in the PDF, but reading it would take me a entire day.
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okay. yeah, i see now that they were comparing to the previous year. i'll amend my post.
 
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Moor-Angol

Banned
DaBoss said:
MCV has been giving them out every week for this FY I believe. Chris used the MCV numbers for this week because they were available early and it had the top 10 for Famitsu translated as well.

They were never posted in the OP before.
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I didn't know about MCV, thanks for explanation :)
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./25. [3DS] Harvest Moon: Linking the New World <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2014.02.27} (¥5.040)
22./10. [PS4] Child of Light <RPG> (Ubisoft) {2014.05.01} (¥2.138)
23./12. [PS3] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.04.10} (¥8.715)
24./17. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 4 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.03.20} (¥7.560)
25./30. [3DS] Hero Bank <RPG> (Sega) {2014.03.20} (¥5.550)
26./14. [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.04.10} (¥7.689)
27./39. [3DS] Tomodachi Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800)
28./23. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-2-3 - Naruhodo Selection # <ADV> (Capcom) {2014.04.17} (¥4.309)
29./42. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
30./31. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2014.03.20} (¥7.600)
31./43. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2014.03.20} (¥3.980)
32./41. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980)
33./44. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.02.06} (¥5.490)
34./33. [WIU] Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} (¥5.985)
35./32. [PS3] J-Stars Victory Vs # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} (¥7.980)
36./35. [PS4] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} (¥7.665)
37./28. [PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.04.14} (¥3.394)
38./37. [PSV] J-Stars Victory Vs # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} (¥6.980)
39./36. [PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.03.20} (¥7.140)
40./40. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice &#916; <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.03.06} (¥4.980)
41./34. [3DS] Detective Conan: Phantom Rapsody <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.04.17} (¥6.145)
42./38. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd <ACT> (Sega) {2014.03.27} (¥7.350)
43./49. [3DS] Aikatsu! Futari no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480)
44./00. [3DS] Disney Magic World # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480)
45./00. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
46./00. [3DS] Kuma Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
47./47. [PS3] Winning Post 8 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.03.27} (¥8.190)
48./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition (Bargain Edition) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.09.05} (¥3.990)
49./00. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
50./45. [PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes <ADV> (Konami) {2014.03.20} (¥2.980)

Top 50

3DS - 26
PS3 - 8
PSV - 6
PS4 - 4
WIU - 4
PSP - 1
WII - 1

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    440.000 |    567.000 |    469.000 | 15.106.000 | 17.347.000 |
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