RetroGamingUK
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If COD can’t move the Gamepass needle I don’t know what could at this point.
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Microsoft’s Q2 FY2025: Gaming Revenue -7%, Hardware -29%, Content and Services +2%
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If COD can’t move the Gamepass needle I don’t know what could at this point.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
2% growth with COD on GamePass is just horrific. These numbers are beyond terrible. Xbox is totally done as a console brand. Everyone needs to embrace Microsoft as a third party publisher now as their traditional console hardware days are definitely over.
Draugoth
Gold Member
The Elder Scrolls VI as an Xbox Exclusive for 3 years.
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RetroGamingUK
Member
After Fallout 76 and Starfield I can’t see there being much success for ES VI.
Most people have given up on Bethesda at this point.
mayham2199
Member
I mean I honestly don't really see this as them working together anymore then I see Nintendo working with any other 3rd party publisher. I would expect Nintendo to treat anyone who wanted to publish games on their system well. Nintendo will get 30% from all the games sold and that's the whole point of owning a platform.
As far as joining forces I guess I could see it happening but it would depend on what Nintendo is getting out of it. I think they would be satisfied to just let MS bring their games over (without GP) and that's that. I don't see any reality where Nintendo allows GP on their service. The information is out there. Games on GP kills sells by 80% or so, why would Nintendo want to be involved in that?
Mr Moose
Member
Which one? The Activision one?
Draugoth
Gold Member
World of Warcraft 2 as a multiplatform release, heavily discounted with Game Pass.
Starcraft 3 with focus on professional gaming
Silksong as a 1 year Xbox Game Pass exclusive.
I can think of many things, but Microsoft doesn't use their brains.
This was with COD, a new Diablo IV expansion, and Indiana Jones.
So what is Microsoft’s strategy now?
Console hardware peaked and is dying, it then results in fewer games sold, and Gamepass subscribers aren’t being rooted in the ecosystem since they own nothing.
With console owners being a large part of Gamepass subs, as the console goes so does Gamepass.
So what is Microsoft’s strategy now?
Console hardware peaked and is dying, it then results in fewer games sold, and Gamepass subscribers aren’t being rooted in the ecosystem since they own nothing.
With console owners being a large part of Gamepass subs, as the console goes so does Gamepass.
diffusionx
Gold Member
This result seems as bad as you can get.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
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A complete strategic disaster.
Imagine killing part of your full priced COD revenues stream by putting the biggest game you can, except for GTA6, on GP and have almost no growth...
Now they're even more dependent from PlayStation.
And people wonder why they're going the Sega way.
Imagine killing part of your full priced COD revenues stream by putting the biggest game you can, except for GTA6, on GP and have almost no growth...
Now they're even more dependent from PlayStation.
And people wonder why they're going the Sega way.
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DeepEnigma
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LordOcidax
Member
We are in a world that making 6.5 billion in revenue in just a quarter is bad news… BTW, i asked in another thread… What are the revenue expectations for Playstation in their next quarterly report?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Investors will always see decline as bad.
Topher
Identifies as young
Well if it is simply a matter of it being a lot of money then expectations don't matter either, now do they?
LordOcidax
Member
I know that… But still they are making 6.5 billion dollars in just a quarter.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
We're never getting that kind of granular data. GamePass will be shutdown before we get any official GamePass numbers ever again.
The offset is just kind of a brain-buster. I think most of us assumed that Microsoft couldn't afford CoD in GamePass, but it just doesn't seem to have made much of a difference, probably because most CoD players are on PlayStation.
VAVA Mk2
Member
Ryan asshat said Alien Isolation sucked...IGN has shit credibility.
Judge Magister
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TheGodfather07
Member
I knew it wasn't gonna be good. Expect everything to be day 1 multiplatform soon.
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tTHANOSs
Member
But what's the profit after subtracting the expenses?? Microsoft is the one have made a nearly 70 billion acquisition and Xbox doesn't bring in that kind of revenue nevermind profit.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And then there's operating income, etc..
LordOcidax
Member
Yes, but not 29%.
Mr Moose
Member
From 2023? Yes, that was a huge year for PS5.
I believe Xbox was down in 2023, not up like PS5. Let me check.
Edit: Appears Xbox might've been up 3% that Q?
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Topher
Identifies as young
Not sure but this is the first quarter for Microsoft launching a Call of Duty game which I would have thought would have boosted gaming revenue. Interesting that they are suddenly no longer breaking out ABK.
bundylove
Member
Which services are you using outside of netflix?
I also have a big comeback to this but lets hear from you first.
My answer will shock you just saying
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
YTTV, Paramount+, MAX, Disney+, Crunchyroll, YT Premium, Apple TV, Apple Music
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jm89
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RetroGamingUK
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Mr Moose
Member
And Stalker 2 (20th Nov).
They could only do that for a year.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It was only a matter of time. Streaming is the new cable, only less convenient.
They started hiding behind the Activision/ King numbers last year around this time so this year it's going to show
Post in thread 'Tom Warren: Expect an Xbox Event in January' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/tom-warren-expect-an-xbox-event-in-january.1678624/post-269921651
Happy
adamsapple
I gave you a full screenshot
Mr Moose
Member
They started hiding behind the Activision/ King numbers last year around this time so this year it's going to show
Post in thread 'Tom Warren: Expect an Xbox Event in January' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/tom-warren-expect-an-xbox-event-in-january.1678624/post-269921651
Happy
There you go.I was expecting a self quote prophesying this.
Look upI was expecting a self quote prophesying this.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I take everyone seriously even if I shouldn't, so my general reaction is to respond with a well-constructed answer.
Sony's overall operating income is up. Hardware units might be down, but their accessory sales, game sales, services are all up and this is where the margins actually are.
Their revenue might even be up on the quarter due to a strong November and PS5 Pro. They sell the PS Portal for 200 dollars... Dual Sense edge was the best selling accessory on the market dollar wise until the Portal disloged it. It's probably #2. The Dual Sense is the best selling accessory by units. Helldivers might be their best selling game of all time. Final Shape looked like it was a massive seller. Astro Bot sold well too on a limited budget. They sell disc drives for 80 dollars... They had a massive 30th anniversary event. The PSVR2 while heavily discounted moved a number of units...
I would not be surprised if they have one of the highest revenue Q3s in their history...
PeteBull
Member
I agree if it was high quality game, aka 0 wokeness, tons of creativity and content, a looker too, likely game wont be any of that, given how bad f76 and starfield were
ChorizoPicozo
Member
It's amazing how the Xbox community (Xbox fanboys and well-known shills) keeps taking Ls (and it's not even their fault). It's just that every perceived win, along with the subsequent excitement and misleading optimism, is rooted in absolute ignorance and hopium
jm89
Member
They started hiding behind the Activision/ King numbers last year around this time so this year it's going to show
Post in thread 'Tom Warren: Expect an Xbox Event in January' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/tom-warren-expect-an-xbox-event-in-january.1678624/post-269921651
Happy
You had me there for a second
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
So, biggest game in the world in sub service, price increases all around, heavy spending from PS5 users...
Revenue (not even net profit) -7%
Subs +2%, but it's a margin of error at this point, that sector remained flat. Repeat of the year without CoD or price increase. It's not a financial report, it's an obituary.
You know what? With carefully cherrypicked by MS PR numbers like this I have to say that both Nishino and Hulst are fairly safe at their jobs.
Revenue (not even net profit) -7%
Subs +2%, but it's a margin of error at this point, that sector remained flat. Repeat of the year without CoD or price increase. It's not a financial report, it's an obituary.
You know what? With carefully cherrypicked by MS PR numbers like this I have to say that both Nishino and Hulst are fairly safe at their jobs.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I was expecting a self quote prophesying this.
I'll mark him down on his employee review.
They've reached cult level status. I wouldn't give them much attention. It'll get worse and worse once unchangeable events start happening, namely Halo on PS5. But eventually Nadella will give up on Xbox hardware at least as we know it. Destin tweeted how many times does Phil Spencer have to say future hardware is coming before people stop doubting it. The answer is never. Even if they release new hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if it is quickly discontinued... No one should be believing the Lies of P in 2025... at least if you're not in the cult.
