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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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bitbydeath said:
Had wondered when these guys would jump back into the fold again. Must be preparing against their previous lessons learned.
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LMAO did the FTC get a third or fourth wind from seeing the CMA still successfully stonewalling MS

Must be tough being the FTC getting shown up by the likes of Brexit Nation aka The Country We Won Independence From In A Revolutionary War
 
MarkMe2525

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Bernoulli said:
The FTC appeal (the opening brief) to the Ninth Circuit was unsealed yesterday:

www.law360.com
Microsoft, Activision Ruling 'Riddled With Errors,' FTC Says - Law360
The Federal Trade Commission told the Ninth Circuit that a lower court's ruling refusing to pause Microsoft's $68.7 billion purchase of Activision Blizzard was "riddled with errors," saying questions presented over the merger's likelihood to stifle competition warrant giving the commission a...
www.law360.com www.law360.com
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The Federal Trade Commission told the Ninth Circuit that a lower court's ruling refusing to pause Microsoft's $68.7 billion purchase of Activision Blizzard was "riddled with errors," saying questions presented over the merger's likelihood to stifle competition warrant giving the commission a chance to determine the antitrust merits.

U.S. District Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley was wrong last month to deny the FTC a preliminary injunction temporarily blocking the deal, the commission told the appellate court in a redacted opening brief that was unsealed Monday, saying the judge applied the wrong standard under the FTC Act, which authorizes preliminary injunctive relief when the commission "raises serious, substantial questions on the antitrust merits."

"Here, the FTC presented compelling evidence that the merger is reasonably likely to substantially lessen competition in multiple relevant markets — more than meeting the statutory standard," the commission said, noting that it is only required to raise "substantial questions on the antitrust merits, not establish the merits themselves."

Instead of applying the preliminary injunction standard, Judge Corley applied the ultimate merits standard, which requires showing a probability that the merger will substantially lessen competition, according to the brief

The commission said it presented significant evidence that Microsoft's merger with Activision may lessen competition, saying it would likely enhance Microsoft's already dominant position in the subscription and cloud gaming markets and will likely preclude further collaboration between Activision and other platform providers, impeding innovation that leads to consumer benefits.

"This legal error infected the district court's analysis in multiple respects and improperly led the court to deny preliminary relief," the FTC said.

But in its opening brief unsealed Monday, the FTC said Judge Corley "committed a fundamental legal error" when analyzing the markets for cloud gaming services and consoles by wrongly relying on Microsoft's side deals with third parties to bring Call of Duty to its rivals, like the Nintendo Switch.

"The crafting or acceptance of any remedy should have been left for the merits proceeding before the FTC, an agency designated by Congress to serve as an expert body on the appropriate remedies for antitrust law violations," the commission said. "The court should not have usurped that role, much less on a partial record and while rushing to issue a decision because of an artificially 'compressed' timeline."

Representatives for the parties did not immediately respond to requests for comment Monday evening
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Who would of thought that the complaining party (the FTC) believes their denied motion was handled incorrectly. I don't think I have ever heard of a lawyer losing a case to then comment "you know, the judge was right to dismiss my arguments".
 
PaintTinJr

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MarkMe2525 said:
Who would of thought that the complaining party (the FTC) believes their denied motion was handled incorrectly. I don't think I have ever heard of a lawyer losing a case to then comment "you know, the judge was right to dismiss my arguments".
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So can we assume that you prefer the kangaroo court solution to anti-trust that the ninth circuit performed compared to the other +40(?) regulatory countries around the world that actually had their "regulators" decide, yes?

But you already know it was such a disingenuous point you were making because miscarriages of justice are "handled incorrectly" too, so the point is completely moot.
 
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Banjo64

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feynoob said:
A lot of big names were on that island.
These rich guys are crooked as hell.
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Well well well…


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HoofHearted

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feynoob feynoob - watching your team - nice score - though I may still have to root for MU - mainly because I like their uniforms better - got that jailhouse vibe going 🤪
 
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MarkMe2525

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PaintTinJr said:
So can we assume that you prefer the kangaroo court solution to anti-trust that the ninth circuit performed compared to the other +40(?) regulatory countries around the world that actually had their "regulators" decide, yes?

But you already know it was such a disingenuous point you were making because miscarriages of justice are "handled incorrectly" too, so the point is completely moot.
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You alright?
 
feynoob

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Vognerful

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Banjo64 said:
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rather that than the Trafford Red Sox.
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I mean the difference is you don't see Boston covered in red, signs celebrating Manchester United winning a trophy and drone shows , while calling Manchester United "our club".


Because I lived in Abu Dhabi for many years and that is how Manchester city was treated and referred to there.
 
feynoob

feynoob

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Banjo64 said:
Well, we're actually 24% American and Chinese too if you want to be pedantic.
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Doesnt change the fact that your club is oil club.
I think you guys should prepare yourself once pep leaves your club.
When fergie and wenger left their club, both clubs suffered badly.
 
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feynoob

feynoob

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Banjo64 said:
Cry more.
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How is that cry?
Without pep, you guys wouldn't have been this dominant.
Once pep leaves, that would the testimony of your club.
Look at Chelsea with Todd bohley. They were successful with Abrahamovich, but are now useless and cheering up for mediocrity.
 
Banjo64

Banjo64

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feynoob said:
How is that cry?
Without pep, you guys wouldn't have been this dominant.
Once pep leaves, that would the testimony of your club.
Look at Chelsea with Todd bohley. They were successful with Abrahamovich, but are now useless and cheering up for mediocrity.
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ur club is oil club

That’s pure pathetic cry lad.

As to the rest, no shit.
 
Bernardougf

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We are fighting for anything here ? So Bring back food wars

McDonald's is light years better then burger king and all the other fast food chains ... anyone that thinks otherwise probably enjoyed redfall and forspoken
 
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Ogbert

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Banjo64 said:
ur club is oil club

That’s pure pathetic cry lad.

As to the rest, no shit.
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How is that pathetic?

City are a plastic sports washing vehicle. Their history is nothing. Niall Quinn flopping around a half empty Maine Road and Ben Thatcher trying to break peoples’ legs. They were Bolton levels. Massively below the likes of Everton and Villa.

That’s why no one really cares about them and just shrug their shoulders.
 
Banjo64

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Ogbert said:
How is that pathetic?

City are a plastic sports washing vehicle. Their history is nothing. Niall Quinn flopping around a half empty Maine Road and Ben Thatcher trying to break peoples’ legs. They were Bolton levels. Massively below the likes of Everton and Villa.

That’s why no one really cares about them and just shrug their shoulders.
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I’m sorry mate, but I don’t reply to retarded takes.
 
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Ogbert said:
How is that pathetic?

City are a plastic sports washing vehicle. Their history is nothing. Niall Quinn flopping around a half empty Maine Road and Ben Thatcher trying to break peoples’ legs. They were Bolton levels. Massively below the likes of Everton and Villa.

That’s why no one really cares about them and just shrug their shoulders.
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You seem to care quite a lot - even I’d forgotten about Ben Thatcher and I used to pay to watch him in a ‘half empty City of Manchester Stadium’… :messenger_beaming: Also Bolton were better than us for a time so leave them alone.

Strangely irrelevant player to use to illustrate a very bitter point.

United fan?
 
PaintTinJr

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In the event the deal is blocked by the CMA again, and the Microsoft walk away, you have to wonder how the deal Sony reluctantly agreed with Microsoft will have interfered with ATVI's and PlayStation's relative positions in future negotiations.

Given that Sony signed the deal I think it is reasonable to conclude that PlayStation places minimal value on all IPs by Activision except for CoD. So negotiating revenue from Activision games being offered on PS+ I could see be less lucrative for ATVI in future
 
Ogbert

Ogbert

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Aguero9320 said:
You seem to care quite a lot - even I’d forgotten about Ben Thatcher and I used to pay to watch him in a ‘half empty City of Manchester Stadium’… :messenger_beaming: Also Bolton were better than us for a time so leave them alone.

Strangely irrelevant player to use to illustrate a very bitter point.

United fan?
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No, Spurs. So certainly bitter, but nothing to do with City!

Hand on heart, I don’t care about City. Their rise is so demonstrably down to being pumped with billions that there’s no point getting angry. I actually like the fact that they’re about, to stop the Chavs and Arsenal getting near the title. I praised the Lord for City winning last year.

I just find City fans that try to claim some sort of ‘blue moon’ history as cringey. The team was utterly irrelevant before the takeover. Just got relegated, then promoted, then relegated etc.

Also, for the record, I don’t want them banned or points deducted. I’d rather FFP was scrapped and every team was allowed to spend billions.

As long as they entertain me with good football, I don’t mind.

Edit: Apologies Mod. I’ll shut up now.
 
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Bernoulli

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PaintTinJr said:
In the event the deal is blocked by the CMA again, and the Microsoft walk away, you have to wonder how the deal Sony reluctantly agreed with Microsoft will have interfered with ATVI's and PlayStation's relative positions in future negotiations.

Given that Sony signed the deal I think it is reasonable to conclude that PlayStation places minimal value on all IPs by Activision except for CoD. So negotiating revenue from Activision games being offered on PS+ I could see be less lucrative for ATVI in future
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first thing sony will do is ask lulu to leave
 
PaintTinJr

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Bernoulli said:
first thing sony will do is ask lulu to leave
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You would think so, but at the end of the day she brings eyeballs - free advertising. If the merger failed and PlayStation signed a new deal for CoD I imagine a few of her supports would change sides if she was advertising the new deal, and I suspect given her position she probably has lots of opposite contacts that might consider investing in Sony shares on her say so.

I think Sony would just be happy the deal was blocked, and on the off chance she was really a diehard for the xbox cause would probably be getting offered a job by Microsoft to leave of her own volition anyway.
 
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