Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I'd argue that a game being an arcade game that was ported to consoles is a completely different experience than like Madden being released for the Genesis and SNES but I suppose I understand.
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NeoGAF Games of the Fourth Generation Awards
- Thread starter AniHawk
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I'd argue that a game being an arcade game that was ported to consoles is a completely different experience than like Madden being released for the Genesis and SNES but I suppose I understand.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I would have put FFVI in front of CT, personally.
Nocturnowl
Member
I can accept number 2 if that's number 1.
Star Falcon
Member
Thanks for doing this, essential backlogging!
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Really nice job man, and thanks for putting this together! It's been neat reading through everyone's personal favorites, and finding some games I haven't tried/heard of yet. It'll definitely check some of those titles out at some point!
CrichtonKicks
Member
Unfortunately U7 doesn't really hold up very well from an interface, combat, graphics, etc perspective which I think has really limited the opportunity to people to experience the game after the fact. Whereas the Lucasarts adventure games hold up wonderfully which I think has given them a longer legacy.
Personally I would probably count U7 (and Serpent Isle) in my top 5 games ever list.
honestrade
Member
Good list...much better than the Gen 5 and Gen 6 lists imo. Obviously I have some minor quibbles (Chrono Trigger should be 1 or 2, Street Fighter 2 should be top 5, Links Awakening top 10, I prefer Sonic 2 to Sonic 3) but I like it overall. Somehow I missed the voting thread or I would have voted.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Looking at that top 25 makes me realize how absurdly amazing that generation of gaming was.
codswallop
Member
Disappointed to see so few PC games on there, but given GAF's console focus I'm not at all surprised.
It also seems like my vote wasn't properly counted (or I didn't vote properly), as Pool of Radiance (intended as a vote for the PC version, seems to have been noted as the Genesis one, but I never specified) is only noted as having one honourable mention and no votes, when I did vote for it.
It also seems like my vote wasn't properly counted (or I didn't vote properly), as Pool of Radiance (intended as a vote for the PC version, seems to have been noted as the Genesis one, but I never specified) is only noted as having one honourable mention and no votes, when I did vote for it.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Really surprised by the absence of Another World and Flashback: The Quest for Identity on that list (yes yes, avatar quote). Like not even in the genre specific lists? Goof Troop and Commander Keen are better games? Hopefully our sample space was just too small, cuz otherwise - you trippin' GAF.
Obviously a solid list, though far too SNES leaning for my tastes. I guess that vindicates that "Shameful" thread we had the other day :b
Obviously a solid list, though far too SNES leaning for my tastes. I guess that vindicates that "Shameful" thread we had the other day :b
Its there because its an awesome game, not that hard to understand imo.
Nocturnowl
Member
Well it's there because it's a great game that's still fun to play, though if you're referring to Street Fighter 2 as in just specifically the original version of the game with the eight playable world warriors I think the usage of SF2 here is encompassing all its iterations from the era like turbo, new challengers and the various platforms/formats since it's not really a case of wholly different entries, just updates/tweaked versions.
With Final Fantasy they're all different games with 6 just being more popular than 4 in this case.
I remember reading somewhere, not too long ago, that someone had at heart to do a fan-translation. However, the game being so huge and not that easy to translate, it will probably take a good while.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I remember playing Soccer Kid during a summer at my cousin's on the Neo Geo. Is it worth going back to?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Based on the recent remake & port: Yes, Commander Keen is better
Of course, things like this are always quite subjective, considering the games are very, very different and hardly directly comparable. Personally, I found the mechanical side of Another World rather weak and I only care about gameplay, so I didn't enjoy the game all too much altogether
for whatever reason, the genre tab got extremely scrambled on the last day so i had to do my best to reorganize in a short amount of time, and i didn't catch some of the mistakes.
It's there because it got the votes. SF2 was a monster back during that era, both in arcades and at home so I'm not shocked people voted it highly. I'm more surprised that SMW2 made it in to the top 10 to be honest. Didn't think it was a fan favourite. Super Metroid deserves the win, such an amazing game.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Incredibly good list
PhilipDoesMatter
Member
Can't even choose. That was THE generation.
RadarScope1
Member
Somehow missed the results thread until now. I got quoted in the #1 game! Thanks, Ani!
Great list. Great(est) gen. So glad we have these lists on GAF. They make a great reference.
Great list. Great(est) gen. So glad we have these lists on GAF. They make a great reference.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Once again thank you for your great work, AniHawk
Now for my routine post-result butthurt...
The good:
- Super Metroid #1. I'm quite happy with this. If there was ever a near-flawless game it would be this one.
- Gunstar Heroes being the #1 shooter. Wasn't expecting that.
The bittersweet relief:
- 1 Genesis game made the top ten. Only 1, but hey.
And the butthurt:
- My Genesis faves, Shining Force II, Ristar, Castlevania Bloodlines and Wonder Boy in Monster World being so low. Especially Wonder Boy having only 2 votes ;_; shout-out to Jucksalbe, you are a bro/sis!
- Action-adventure top 5 having frigging Goof Troop beat Beyond Oasis and Landstalker?! (Actually in the full list Beyond Oasis beats it! I DEMAND CHANGES)
- Ristar being so low
- Chrono Trigger beating FFVI
- Why does the top Genesis games end at 9, but others at 10? PC-Engine has 4 #10, lol
Also, some nitpicks: isn't Herzog Zwei a strategy game? Shouldn't it beat Clock Tower, being directly behind Frontier: Elite 2? Not that I care, never liked RTSes... just an observation. And isn't TMNT Turtles in Time also an arcade game?
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I did my part...
Now for my routine post-result butthurt...
The good:
- Super Metroid #1. I'm quite happy with this. If there was ever a near-flawless game it would be this one.
- Gunstar Heroes being the #1 shooter. Wasn't expecting that.
The bittersweet relief:
- 1 Genesis game made the top ten. Only 1, but hey.
And the butthurt:
- My Genesis faves, Shining Force II, Ristar, Castlevania Bloodlines and Wonder Boy in Monster World being so low. Especially Wonder Boy having only 2 votes ;_; shout-out to Jucksalbe, you are a bro/sis!
- Action-adventure top 5 having frigging Goof Troop beat Beyond Oasis and Landstalker?! (Actually in the full list Beyond Oasis beats it! I DEMAND CHANGES
)- Ristar being so low
- Chrono Trigger beating FFVI
- Why does the top Genesis games end at 9, but others at 10? PC-Engine has 4 #10, lol
Also, some nitpicks: isn't Herzog Zwei a strategy game? Shouldn't it beat Clock Tower, being directly behind Frontier: Elite 2? Not that I care, never liked RTSes... just an observation. And isn't TMNT Turtles in Time also an arcade game?
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Well, you didn't help!
I did my part...<bro/sis-fist>
- Action-adventure top 5 having frigging Goof Troop beat Beyond Oasis and Landstalker?! (Actually in the full list Beyond Oasis beats it! I DEMAND CHANGES
changed. i had them both as action-adventure, but my genre tab screwed up on the last day and everything was scrambled. some stuff fell between the cracks.
it's ten games in a 1-10 list. two genesis exclusives tied for #9, meaning the next game would be #11. four pc engine games tied for #10, but they're all essentially #10.
also adjusted herzog zwei and frontier elite 2. frontier elite 2 should have been in simulation, and herzog zwei was listed as an rpg in my list. now it's a strategy game.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
While you are changing the genre association, don't you think Commander Keen fits way better under platformer or Action than Action-Adventure? I'd say it's somewhere in between Mario and Mega Man, which are platformer and action game, respectively. Also, Commander Keen should be Commander Keen 4, because that's the only game in the full list, right?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Cool! Landstalker now getting a bit more representation too.
Ah, gotcha.
Also, could you maybe add a link to the voting thread in the OP somehow?
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
I still think a Games of the Third Generation should be done just so we can have it as a reference, I know it won't get a lot of feedback but honestly the results would be similar. In most data sets you only need roughly ~100 to have fair level of accuracy. We could get that.
Thanks as always for putting this together Anihawk. I love these things. They are a great tool to help document points in time. Doing this in 5 years will likely shift as well so it would be fun to compare as nostalgia and gamer bases change.
Worst part about this generation is that despite so many good early Game Boy and Game Gear games, there's literally no way they could compare to the console games of the generation. They were simply too primitive (aside from Link's Awakening).
Thanks as always for putting this together Anihawk. I love these things. They are a great tool to help document points in time. Doing this in 5 years will likely shift as well so it would be fun to compare as nostalgia and gamer bases change.
Worst part about this generation is that despite so many good early Game Boy and Game Gear games, there's literally no way they could compare to the console games of the generation. They were simply too primitive (aside from Link's Awakening).
ienjoyrawfish
Member
What's wrong with them?
Not enough PC Engine games
yeah, took it out. the genre tab strikes again.
i'm not sure what it would be -
atari 5200, atari 7800, nes/famicom, sega sg-1000, sega master system, pc 1982-1987, c64, atari st, amiga, arcades 1982-1987?
thinking back to that era and i start going even further back in time to grab stuff from the second generation thanks to my atari's backwards compatability. my list would basically be my favorite nes games:
super mario bros.
super mario bros. 2/usa
super mario bros. 3
little nemo the dream master
dr. mario
duck hunt
mega man
mega man 2
the legend of zelda
zelda ii
although i guess seeing games from other people might jog my memory.
Nocturnowl
Member
Gen 3 eh? first things to jump to mind here for me...
Super Mario Bros 3
Castlevania 3
Mega Man...3
Kirby's Adventure
Gargoyle's Quest 2
Sonic 1 MS
Yeah as I figured all I really know is the NES here.
Super Mario Bros 3
Castlevania 3
Mega Man...3
Kirby's Adventure
Gargoyle's Quest 2
Sonic 1 MS
Yeah as I figured all I really know is the NES here.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Yeah, I'd officially be bowing out of this one; it's too far back and would be nearly entirely from what I've played later or stuff I don't remember clearly at all.
oh yeah. forgot about kirby's adventure - only played it for the first time on wii. good kirby game though.
by the way folks, the best soundtracks of the 4th generation vote is ongoing through july 31. get in your votes while you can: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1239268