V shape design looks fresh in those boring designs. i don't expect, that they will have the balls to do it, but it would be fantastic to get oneI actually like the V design, hopefully it gets improved but keeps the same concept - V design fits under TV and designed for good cooling is good for me.
Agreed and yes, innovation is supposed to go against everything we know. You are right about MS and me not saying enough. I'm not short changing at all. It's just I always have had more to say for the item, person, or product that does more with seemingly less. MS is not playing and are doing more traditional things with more power. They seem to be innovating more than anything on the software end with traditional PC/console hybrid. I'm loving it. Sony just feels more console driven with their innovations and approach. Even I'm sure you know it will be cheaper due to the lower CU. So they did a lot of in house to keep things cost effective bringing some new ways of achieving parody so to speak. Like you I'm loving this and can't wait to play games. Oh and btw no smart ass intended. It's all over the news the past week about Sony getting delayed, overheating, having issues, being caught off guard, being scarred. Here as well. I almost believed after the TF reveal that it was true. After talking to my own people, going on the insider rollercoaster in here, and finally seeing the controller - I know they are on to something that we are underestimating. They are way to successful with PS4 to not rectify the fact that MS is tugging at their audience with their promise to the next generation with Sony's silence.Well that’s fine, my only point was that it is not “obvious” and there are some claims being made that go against what we already know about gaming hardware.
I have not seen anyone claim the PS5 as a disaster. It’s clear Sony and Microsoft were aiming for a different price point at least in their own BOM, but I think you are shortchanging Microsoft by painting it as they just threw a bunch of power in a box, they’ve gone through some of the same lengths to remove bottlenecks and achieve maximum efficiency with the hardware they chose.
Devs will always make the most out of the hardware. I’m excited to see what Next Gen brings.
Oh yeah the heat stuff. I forgot about that. I’m sure that was overblown and Sony will have it under control but that’s another thing that’s an unknown/not precedented. Clocks that high are bound to run really hot, and we’ve heard about Sony investing in a advanced cooling solution. I’m extremely excited to see what that is. I want to see if they were able to still get it in a traditional console form factor or if they had to go PC-like, as Microsoft did. To me that would be a big deal if they could get all that power in a console box. That would be an advantage in itself over the Xbox.Agreed and yes, innovation is supposed to go against everything we know. You are right about MS and me not saying enough. I'm not short changing at all. It's just I always have had more to say for the item, person, or product that does more with seemingly less. MS is not playing and are doing more traditional things with more power. They seem to be innovating more than anything on the software end with traditional PC/console hybrid. I'm loving it. Sony just feels more console driven with their innovations and approach. Even I'm sure you know it will be cheaper due to the lower CU. So they did a lot of in house to keep things cost effective bringing some new ways of achieving parody so to speak. Like you I'm loving this and can't wait to play games. Oh and btw no smart ass intended. It's all over the news the past week about Sony getting delayed, overheating, having issues, being caught off guard, being scarred. Here as well. I almost believed after the TF reveal that it was true. After talking to my own people, going on the insider rollercoaster in here, and finally seeing the controller - I know they are on to something that we are underestimating. They are way to successful with PS4 to not rectify the fact that MS is tugging at their audience with their promise to the next generation with Sony's silence.
Why don't they just call it the PSX (Playstaion Series X)Nope. I don't like this PlayStation Series X design.
Inside XBOX has terrible formatting for a videogames' show. Too many people hosting it and not enough exciting content on it.
Did we find anything more out about Sony's "Shareplay 2.0" thing? It was something about sending friends sections of gameplay for them to play? I didn't really understand the point of it. Seemed like a half-step between brag clips and the already existing SharePlay where people takeover your gameplay.
Is this a rumor or something? This is the first I've ever heard of this.
wow, so many Xbox fans on that list since yesterday. They really didn't appreciate the revolutionary new DualSense™ PlayStation®5 controller showing up out of the blue like that and raining on their parade.Nope:
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Those look terrible, basically every mockup that has colored button's symbols and PS logo looks off, like a cheap toy for kids, Sony's original design is sleek, sexy, modern, high-tech, they couldn't have done it any better IMO. The only scenario where the colored buttons and logo would fit is some sort of PSX-themed anniversary edition with the iconic gray.
Yeah I noticed this too. Everything you said I was thinking yesterday.Anyone watch Austin Evans video recently?
Dude seems to be capitalising of the next-gen hype big time, it’s concerning because he really doesn’t have any knowledge of next-gen consoles. If you watch his Series X video you could tell he was parroting information which the Microsoft team told him, it was a little cringe.
He uploaded a video soon after the Dualsense controller was revealed with a clickbait image of him holding it even though he didn’t actually have it. It’s not really a problem but he had such a huge platform and he can’t seem to give an informed breakdown/review of next-generation tech.
wow, so many Xbox fans on that list since yesterday. They really didn't appreciate the revolutionary new DualSense™ PlayStation®5 controller showing up out of the blue like that and raining on their parade.
I really don't understand why though. Inside Xbox was... good... wasn't it?
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Yeah, I generally don't like that guy.Anyone watch Austin Evans video recently?
Dude seems to be capitalising of the next-gen hype big time, it’s concerning because he really doesn’t have any knowledge of next-gen consoles. If you watch his Series X video you could tell he was parroting information which the Microsoft team told him, it was a little cringe.
He uploaded a video soon after the Dualsense controller was revealed with a clickbait image of him holding it even though he didn’t actually have it. It’s not really a problem but he had such a huge platform and he can’t seem to give an informed breakdown/review of next-generation tech.
Pretty sweet.
Oh, boy, looks like Sony will have to launch a controller colour service just like MS' the way things are going.
Did you see this comparison? You're right, seems much thicker.
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Hmm... I think the body and grips of of DS5 is designed intentionally like this so it more consistently makes maximum contact with the surface of your palms and fingers... specifically so you can feel the haptics as effectively as possible.Good lord! PS5 controller needs to go on a diet. I really, really, hope it's comfortable to hold.
I hate the XB1 controller because it's so big and bulky. I have to stretch to get to the Xbox buttons in center. I hope that on PS5 controller I don't have to stretch thumbs to get to the PS button.
Hmm... I think the body and grips of of DS5 is designed intentionally like this so it more consistently makes maximum contact with the surface of your palms and fingers... specifically so you can feel the haptics as effectively as possible.
Holding the DS4, you are aware of how much empty space there is between you and the controller, which is fine for rumble, but won't work for haptics.
(still confused why this was a concern with the renders but)
most headset nowadays are bluetooth.I mean it was kind of obvious regardless of what you could see from the pictures. Where am I supposed to attach an headset, to the console? lol
Yeah ok, but still.most headset nowadays are bluetooth.
No light bar - I wonder how controlled positioning will be done with PSVR2?
Funny enough, PS5 was described by Wired as a silver tower lol a very early version of course, so means nothing for the final design.Please no.
You can't fuck up like that after a great controller reveal.
When it’s hard to explain there’s often a reason you’re not told. No company would say variable clocks allowed us to claim more theoretical performance on paper and that’s the main reason why we have them. Not saying that’s what happened but until we see the advantage it brings..The retail PS5 will handle the Variable clock. Devs will use the kits that are fixed, they dont have to optimize for it. We just don't understand it is all. None of us do enough. It's almost like when people thought the earth couldn't be round. Give it time, we will see what they truly are doing. I'm starting to think this isn't about damage control for Sony. We are the only one's warring. MS AND Sony are about to both kick ass approaching 2 different fighting styles.
most headset nowadays are bluetooth.
This. Bluetooth audio quality just doesn't compare to what you get with wired headphones, and I don't think it ever will. There's a reason all high-end audiophile headphones have cables. The best situation would be if you're able to use nice wired headphones and the mic on the controller at the same time. That way you're not compromising quality in any way.I don’t think they’d ever offer no choice of good traditional cable options though.
This. Bluetooth audio quality just doesn't compare to what you get with wired headphones, and I don't think it ever will. There's a reason all high-end audiophile headphones have cables. The best situation would be if you're able to use nice wired headphones and the mic on the controller at the same time. That way you're not compromising quality in any way.
Right....this is very true. I didn't even consider that part of it. Haha *facepalm*While I agree that it is unlikely to not offer options to use your wired headphones, it isn't REALLY wired, since the controller itself connects to the main box wirelessly.
This. Bluetooth audio quality just doesn't compare to what you get with wired headphones, and I don't think it ever will. There's a reason all high-end audiophile headphones have cables. The best situation would be if you're able to use nice wired headphones and the mic on the controller at the same time. That way you're not compromising quality in any way.
He was already self imploding since the Cerny presentation thread.Self imploded with the reveal of the Dualsense.
I didn't even know that existed! Good to know. It would be awesome if Sony implemented that type of thing.Specifically with Sony LDAC and Hi-Res Audio (upscaling), in optimal interference conditions I doubt many audiophiles could tell the difference – in a negative way - if their wired phones plugged into a Sony Hi-res LDAC capable bluetooth headset (eg Sony SB-HS2) or directly cabled to the LDAC bluetooth audio source.
If Sony are using LDAC for the transport between pad and console, and they have a hi-res upscaling chip in the pad then you won’t be disappointed in the audio quality through high-end phones.
I literally never even know the ban list existed until today.Shouldn't we just let the ban list exist to clear up the thread, and leave it at that? Why try to fan the flames further when we can just move on and talk about consoles?
I like the colored logo, is like a touch of nostalgia linking the past and future.Those look terrible, basically every mockup that has colored buttons and PS logo looks off, like a cheap toy for kids, Sony's original design is sleek, sexy, modern, high-tech, they couldn't have done it any better IMO. The only scenario where the colored buttons and logo would fit is some sort of PSX-themed anniversary edition with the iconic gray.
Just by looking at the picture you can instantly tell how bad DS4 is compared to the rest, you can clearly see how seriously it lacks the build quality.
for me the white one is much more sexy.
That’s no surprise, despite the audio quality in Sony’s best products being truly amazing they’ve stopped making the argument for the products on that basis, beyond a niche audience. The masses of customers they lost to ipod from walkman - because of their lack of proactive decision to abandon DRM – seemingly can’t be won back, and that’s why even audiophiles like yourself won’t know about their technology developments.I didn't even know that existed! Good to know. It would be awesome if Sony implemented that type of thing.
I'm used to dealing with headphones and gear on the music engineering (mixing/mastering) side of things, so bluetooth audio isn't something I necessarily keep up with.
They would have announced it already, like for the back buttons I suppose: I wouldn't expect them, they talked about the controller many times and not once they even hinted at back buttons. This is basically the reveal of the controller, this should be the time to say things.for me the white one is much more sexy.
Btw, do we know if the touchpad has a screen yet? That would be so awesome and a great surprise... would be so cool for a tiny inventory with 4 items and next/previous page arrows![]()