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[hemo memo]

A price of 449 for the DE would be a okay if you consider that you get the real next gen console just without disc drive.
But the disc version shouldn't be more expensive than the XSX. Not with the "more powerful" on the paper (most people will believe that).

If Sony waited this long just to announce a console that is more expensive then that would be stupid especially with “more powerful” on the paper as you said.

It should be the same price for the standard or Sony fucked up. Of course in no business way they can match the S so a 100$ difference is totally fine because you are getting the same console just without the disc.

Also the casual market buying this aren’t neogaf members. What they’ll hear is “Next gen console for 299$? What a deal” Which is exactly how Microsoft is advertising this.

 

[kyliethicc]

pretty great video if you ask me. but 512gb is.... not much for a digital only device...

Powa oda Clowd

 

[zaitsu]

If Sony waited this long just to announce a console that is more expensive then that would be stupid especially with “more powerful” on the paper as you said.

It should be the same price for the standard or Sony fucked up. Of course in no business way they can match the S so a 100$ difference is totally fine because you are getting the same console just without the disc.

Also the casual market buying this aren’t neogaf members. What they’ll hear is “Next gen console for 299$? What a deal” Which is exactly how Microsoft is advertising this.

So basically what we have ben saying for long time :
299 xsx
399 PS5 DE
499 ps5 and XSX

If Sony wants to go higher than that, they are counting on heavy fanbase and lineup.

 

[hemo memo]

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[THE:MILKMAN]

One word: xCloud.

Not sure many would be bothered about that but I see Gold is included so there is that. Would still be a waste to most buyers and cost £11/pm.

All adds up though:

£249
£11/pm or ~£130/yr
SSD cartridge 1TB £100+

Plus no used/shared games and stuck with Xbox store. The same things will apply to the PS5DE too.

Xbox All Access is how they want you to buy Series S... $25 a month for 2 years with Game Pass Ultimate.

I get it but I can't see a huge amount of people going for this in the EU/UK. I would love to know what the figures are in the UK/EU for All Access (or total SAD console sales) since they launched.

 

[kyliethicc]

Xbox revealing Series S after leak in night is perfect backslash for having us waiting so much.

MS confirmed 299$ price for Series S, but part of the leak was also price for XSX - 499$
Both releasing 10 november.
Thats very good offensive pricing.

Now Sony do someting.

After that Halo gameplay ... bet Jim Ryan said "make the PS5 $600."

 

[LiquidRex]

Tweet now deleted...

 

[nikolino840]

Tweet deleted. What was it?

Wow already?


Here:

Those awaiting preorders and have Ryi. Please standby for updates. PS5 have scheduled an announcement tomorrow so things are about to kick off this week. #Guildford

 

[existensmaximum]

Xbox Series S Reveal Trailer




Sorry if already posted

This video is really cool I think, looks very sleek. Yeah, I have no interest in buying the XSX and it looks like a speaker but damn, its design is much, much better than the PS5 I gotta say. Much cleaner.

 

[Vae_Victis]

Xbox revealing Series S after leak in night is perfect backslash for having us waiting so much.

MS confirmed 299$ price for Series S, but part of the leak was also price for XSX - 499$
Both releasing 10 november.
Thats very good offensive pricing.

Now Sony do someting.

I believe it was a controlled leak. Too much material immediately available to too many people, and Microsoft immediately caves in and confirms everything without even attempting to contain the leak.

After tonight I don't think Microsoft is planning another full event at all, because they don't have much left to show in terms of game announcements and gameplay. By announcing XSS like this they won't have as much pressure from people asking them to immediately follow up the announcement with a release date, gameplay recorded on the console, further technical details etc. And they can remain a bit more ambiguous on the final price for a little more still.


At any rate, if Sony was just waiting for Microsoft to make their move, now they can respond immediately with all the missing info on PS5. Which would probably mean digital event/State of Play next week.

If Sony still keeps on waiting past September, then behind the curtains they have some kind of issue of their own (distribution, games are not ready, ideal price for them is too high to just throw it out etc.).

 

[Dodkrake]

So, a rumored 4TF console that can pull 120fps and 1440p?

This explains Craig. Good luck playing actual next gen games on any of the Xbox consoles

 

[chilichote]

So, a rumored 4TF console that can pull 120fps and 1440p?

And raytracing^^

 

[RaZoR No1]

So this should mean, that they will stop the production of the Xbox One S in the next few days or will they keep it as a lowest entry point for the Xbox Ecosystem (maybe selling it for 150€)?

 

[SaucyJack]

I believe it was a controlled leak. Too much material immediately available to too many people, and Microsoft immediately caves in and confirms everything without even attempting to contain the leak.

After tonight I don't think Microsoft is planning another full event at all, because they don't have much left to show in terms of game announcements and gameplay. By announcing XSS like this they won't have as much pressure from people asking them to immediately follow up the announcement with a release date, gameplay recorded on the console, further technical details etc. And they can remain a bit more ambiguous on the final price for a little more still.


At any rate, if Sony was just waiting for Microsoft to make their move, now they can respond immediately with all the missing info on PS5. Which would probably mean digital event/State of Play next week.

If Sony still keeps on waiting past September, then behind the curtains they have some kind of issue of their own (distribution, games are not ready, ideal price for them is too high to just throw it out etc.).

This.

Apart from some announcement on Gamepass I don’t think they’ve got anything else show worthy.

 

[silent head]

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[Agnostic2020]

fake it seems

 

[zaitsu]

This.

Apart from some announcement on Gamepass I don’t think they’ve got anything else show worthy.

To be honest, we know almost everything about XSX at the moment. So youre right there is no much material for an event.

On PS5 side
1)teardown
2) UI, fas launching games
3) more games or showing of already announced tittles
4) price and availability

So there is material for one show and maybe one state of play and one blog.

But i want them to post teardown on blog and make full blown launch event.

 

[kyliethicc]

Source?

 

[Agnostic2020]

Source?

Reddit. Probably fake lol

 

[zaitsu]

Thats old from 4chan i think, they won't call secon event the same way the first IMO

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Reddit. Probably fake lol

Missing "PM" for BST....

 

[thurnishaleygw]

fake it seems

Sony already has an event scheduled on the 17th. Something Xperia related if I remember correctly, so I doubt they would do this on the same day.

 

[kyliethicc]

How many days/hours until DF show off the S and its incredible 4 TF ?

 

[Raonak]

BST for bullshit time.

 

[Saudumm]

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[Snowdonhoffen]

So, a rumored 4TF console that can pull 120fps and 1440p?

This explains Craig. Good luck playing actual next gen games on any of the Xbox consoles

Watch the usual suspects hype the console to make it look a lot better than the PS5.

 

[Codexer]

 

[Zoro7]

Watch the usual suspects hype the console to make it look a lot better than the PS5.

It’s funny because the PS5 got laughed at for having only 10 TF and a 800gb hard drive.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

It's kind of ironic how the hype for 3000 pages was building for playstation news, and instead xbox news happened.

now, about the news...
series X is the most powerful console, every game will play there best, starting from COD and CYBERPUNK. 499 probably is the best anyone could have asked.
series S is a 100% next gen console with the same cpu power, ssd speed, and an rdna2 gpu that aims for less than 4k resolutions. and 299 is a price point from the past.

I read many times "what's the point of a 1440p machine if tv's not support it?"
series S will automatically downsample everything to your 1080p tv just like xbox X does.
it will also upscale to 4k if/when you upgrade your panel. you know, like ps4pro, but next-gen.

financing these consoles $25-$35/month with game pass sure seems a great option, especially for those that the pandemic has affected financially






on another note

I assume there are loads of duplicate assets in that game.

I just checked and COD on my X -with high res textures and all that- is 100.6GB
How much is it on pro? What 240GB?

 

[sinnergy]

And raytracing^^

It’s that powerful in such a small package ! Amazing engineering!

 

[zaitsu]

Call of duty

 

[sinnergy]

Call of duty

Looked like Joana Perfect Dark ... I wish.

 

[LiquidRex]

I can't help but think the Xbox Series X will be $449 and the PS5 $499.

Granted XSX has raw power, but the PS5 has more custom features and a more advanced architecture.

 

[sinnergy]

I can't help but think the Xbox Series X will be $449 and the PS5 $499.

Granted XSX has raw power, but the PS5 has more custom features and a more advanced architecture.

I think this will be the outcome . Even possible Series X will be 399.

 

[TTOOLL]

I'm shocked that people are saying this is just a battle between 4k and 1440p machines. It can't be just that simple and it isn't.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[FunkMiller]

This joke is only funny for those that don’t understand the difference between RDNA2 and Xbox one X TFLOPS

You mean the vast majority of the buying public? You know... you just might be right about that.

 

[kyliethicc]

Tom Warren - "And I would know, because Microsoft pay me to leak things"

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

Ryan McCaffrey is a doofus

 

[Mahavastu]

Microsoft AND Sony should not be allowed the use of the word "SOON" anymore.

Or just make a game out of it... Always drink a shot, when Sony / XBox say "soon", "we can't wait" or something else in this direction.
OMG, we would be drunk all summer

 

[JonnyMP3]

Okay... It's pretty ugly.

But it's also giving me the Xbox 360 Arcade Edition vibes...
That's not a good vibe!

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Lol, true

 

[zaitsu]

I hope Sony makes a move right now.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

I hope Sony makes a move right now.

If they don't XSS is going to get all the attention for the entire week.

 

[FunkMiller]

The leak wasn't intentional, but XBox just happened to have approved copy and visuals ready to be posted on social media?

How stupid do these people think we are?

 

[CrysisFreak]

If PS5 Digital is actually 399 which I don't know how likely that is but hypothetically if, you'd need to be pretty r-worded to buy a Series S over PS5 lmao.

 

[dwish]

To be honest, we know almost everything about XSX at the moment. So youre right there is no much material for an event.

On PS5 side
1)teardown
2) UI, fas launching games
3) more games or showing of already announced tittles
4) price and availability

So there is material for one show and maybe one state of play and one blog.

But i want them to post teardown on blog and make full blown launch event.

PS Now, what is the create button, remote play (if any?), etc etc.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

The leak wasn't intentional, but XBox just happened to have approved copy and visuals ready to be posted on social media?

How stupid do these people think we are?

If there is something PS5 related in a few hours we will know why all this happened all of the sudden.

 

[Nevaeh]

 

[FunkMiller]

You know, I can actually see Sony pricing incredibly aggressively now. They have the profit margins and market share to do it if they want. Take the financial hit to secure the generation out of the gate. That huge profit in Q1 could come into play.

Ps5 at $449 and DE at $349.