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This would be very foolish of platinum, given their recent statements and the investment in them by a Chinese company to help become more independent
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
It's sounding a lot like it could be Cyberpunk, and CD Projeck ain't exactly hurting for funds so I'm still queasy on that even happening. But as for the JP company, there's probably a chance it's SEGA.
Which I mean, I don't know how I feel about that, since Sonic & Mario are like step brothers these days, but I"m guessing MS would treat them like they treat Minecraft and still let them develop/publish certain games for Nintendo and Sony platforms in addition to Xbox and PC, such as Sonic and Yakuza.
If it's not SEGA then I'm hard-pressed to guess who else it could be. Likely not Square-Enix or Capcom, but maybe Konami? I'd picture Konami being more of a Sony thing tho if either of them at all honestly. But in all of these cases, they'd be looking at spending a few billion. Not as much as for Bethesda (highest would be Square-Enix, then Konami, then SEGA, then Capcom), but still well north of $2 billion for any of them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Elden Ring, maybe?
I don't think so either
As far as I understand, he is talking about a game that will come at the start of the generation
The next TES will be released at least in 2021 or later
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Oddspeak
Member
Xbox's exclusive is not Japanese but not Western either, and has already been shown? And the dev is one they'd like to buy outright?
...Perhaps PUBG Corp's next game? The one that was shown at The Game Awards?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I don't see anyway cyberpunk goes full exclusive. The damage to their studio image isn't worth it and they are not the studio that would risk it.
Bryank75
Banned
Yeah, that would suck balls but wouldn't make me buy an Xbox.
ethomaz
Banned
How buy a studio is moneyhat? lol
You will own the studio and what he does is yours... there is no moneyhat.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I think we might have a winner.
I dont think it will be a launch game but a, "Hey one last thing before we go a look at a exclusive game coming to the SEX next year!"
DJ12
Member
He says it's the Japanese studio they're trying to buy, whoever makes dark souls would be my guess not really a big fan of any Dev in Japan aside from namco and square.
The other one would be a timed exclusive for Xbox if I've read it right. But it's not Western so that rules out most of Europe and the US. Guess Poland would class as eastern Europe so cdpr would fall under that banner the anyone to the east of that until you hit Japan I guess any big games from Russia?
TLZ
Banned
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Agreed, I don't think it'll go full exclusive. At most I think they'll prob get some exclusive timed DLC and lead marketing rights for the game in the major territories. And possibly something with it and Gamepass.
But that's as far as I can see it going, while still keeping things relatively non-controversial. Since there's been some GTA6 rumors going around too, I'll just say that whoever lands something with that game, it'd be in a similar timed exclusive DLC/marketing lead rights for it and/or possibly exclusive beta tests on that given system along with that.
B/c tbh either one getting GTA6 exclusively would break the globe and bring hell to whoever moneyhats it to that degree, real talk.
TLZ
Banned
Lmao.
vivftp
Member
OsirisBlack
would this have anything to do with MS wanting to acquire Cygames maybe? They seem to have several PS games on the horizon so I guess that could sorta fit, but they'd be an expensive purchase.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
You can preoder it for PS4. I think naaaah
vivftp
Member
Well I know it's almost certainly a dead rumor at this point but
OsirisBlack
would you happen to know anything about that rumor of Sony looking to acquire Zenimax? Whether there's any truth to it or if it's a complete fabrication?
OsirisBlack
would you happen to know anything about that rumor of Sony looking to acquire Zenimax? Whether there's any truth to it or if it's a complete fabrication?
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Btw. CDPR market cap is 27 billion. MS won't buy them
Oi, have link for post below?
I just receive a message saying my guess post made up on the other site lol
When they realize who wrote it they will will hate for life
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Bryank75
Banned
Insane Metal
Member
Oh no.
I explained it to you via PM, but will write a post here when I get time.
Basically, its not E0 of Ariel, its C0 of Oberon. Komachi wrote "Ariel" in his table because code 00840f40 matches 13FF (Ariel PCI ID), but what 13FF also matches is....Oberon.
13F9 : OBR : A0
So basically, its actually 5th stepping of PS5 chip. Except its not Ariel E0, but Oberon C0 (Ariel A0/B0, Oberon A0/B0/C0 = 5).
Ariel (chip), like Gonzalo (platform) and Prospero (dev kit name) are all part of dev kit. They are all characters from Tempest (Shakespear).
Oberon (same chip like Ariel), and Flute (platform) are part of retail product. They are all characters from Midsummers Nights Dream (Shakespear).
Ariel > Oberon A0/B0 profression can be seen in github leak along with additional BW duo to usage of higher clocked memory.
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Fake
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Where? Next gen OT 09?I just receive a message saying my guess post made up on the other site lol
When they realize who wrote it they will will hate for life
OsirisBlack
Banned
I wouldn't worry about Cyberpunk
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Don't worry. He just need to say there again that PS5 is more powerful by 15% than XSX, Xbox fans will literally harass him. He will ask for ban and then he will return here in the end.
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DJ12
Member
Both hints are about Microsoft. He just said both are guilty of the same thing.
At least Sony don't say exclusive when it's only a timed one though like ms did with tomb raider. That's why there was fall out because everyone knew it was timed yet that's not what was communicated by Microsoft.
Bryank75
Banned
What if the console has two chips as many have suggested.... but they are not equal. One is Ariel and the other is Oberon.... for some reason that I cannot think of yet!
TLZ
Banned
Maybe it gives us a good indication of what to expect from PSVR 2
The Mad Draklor
Member
It can't be From Software as they're owned by Kadowaka.
DJ12
Member
I imagine it would take more money than it would be worth to buy cdpr considering they own gog.
Because it makes no sense? It would make for a bigger chip then upcoming big Navi, and would result in heavy shortages for Sony as yields for such big chip, even if good, would result in measly amount of chips per wafer. But yea, I checked, they are same chip. One is earlier (Ariel), likely used for dev kit, other is retail one (Oberon).
Bryank75
Banned
We are talking about a moneyhat, not buying the studio in that case!
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Then Konami is.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Thanks Mate. Much appreciate the breakdown
But why wouldn't it be on PC? MS is putting all their games on PC.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap.
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake! OT
Someone on the old site gave a good point on the github leak “ I don't take these Github tests as reliable because it lacks context. But if you look into them you will see they only tested 18CUs and 36CUs that match the PS4 and PS4 Pro number of CUs. So they only tested two modes: 18CUs and...
www.resetera.com
But the fresh thing there is
OsirisBlack
.What yourself there
some poster will try to eat you alive.
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ethomaz
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Wait Ariel and Oberon are two different chips but the same?
Which one is PS5?
Why use two chips?
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vivftp
Member
Konami has a ton of great IP, but what sort of dev teams do they still have? Anything worth mentioning or would teams have to be rebuilt from the ground up to take advantage of that IP?
bitbydeath
Member
Second time you’ve mentioned killing and now it’s bolded.
Killing Floor devs?
What others have Killing or something similar in the dev name or game title?
Notice the ID (ex Ariel)
00840f00
Last number specifies small change in stepping (A0 > A1), while 2nd to last one specifies big change (A0 > B0).
So, APUs in table that have gone from A0 > A1 will have last number changed.
Onea that gone from A0 > B0 will have 2nd from last number changed.
In Ariels case you go from F00 to F40 (5 steppings, A0 > B0 > C0 > D0 > E0).
This is why he said other day its suprising the amount of steppings for semi custom chip that is not yet out. Yes, but only if you assume its Ariel or Oberon only, but its not.
Ariel and Oberon are same chips. Ariel earlier one, used in dev kit. Oberon later one, for retail.
If you look at 00840f40, it matches BOTH, so its same GPU. Which means Ariel had A0 and B0, while Oberon has A0 and B0 till June (know from gitbub). Since we know 00840f40 had another stepping, that would mean Oberon got C0 and not Ariel being E0.
Hawking Radiation
Member
I'm a huge Playstation fan and love the games and services but i really do admire Microsoft for stepping it up with their hardware in Xbox One S and Xbox One X. Both feel really well made and are decently quiet.
This is an area i know Sony can knock out of the park so i fully expect them to with PS5.
xool
Member
I don't see why they would have different chips for dev and retail .. even if the dev one is earlier (prototyping ?) .. why continue its development when they have the retail now (unless the retail doesn't work)
..I mean - can't imagine why there would be hardware difference between the two .. dev kit needs more power - just picke the good ones and overclock, ..
something obvious I'm missing ?
[not promoting some craxzy theory, just don't understand the 'facts']
[edit - is there evidence they are still actively working on Ariel?]
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nowhat
Member
Not a game title or a part of the studio name, but Bethesda has been killing their reputation as of late!
(yes, I'm kidding)
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Sure doesn't seem that way, but if it were possible Microsoft could set them up with a scenario so highly desirable to where they hope to go as a studio, something that aligns perfectly with their own plans, then perhaps they just might be encouraged to join Xbox Game Studios.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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But they already revealed that at last E3 so isn't it pretty much expected? Especially since IIRC MS are helping with the translation themselves?
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