ethomaz
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If you that you will get a pic with 40% and 34% difference between the squares.
Maybe yours had that but I did not check.
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Maybe yours had that but I did not check.
Bladed Thesis
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Pretty sure the Xbox and Samsung deal will have a huge focus on phones for Gamepass and/or xCloud. Seems like the logical next step in the xCloud/Gamepass service. Getting manufacturers on board.
DrDamn
Member
For a start you are converting the single digit numbers to a 2 dimensional shape then calculating a ratio in terms of just one of those dimensions. If the ratio is the important piece of information then your initial visual is also misleading as it makes it look bigger the next gen example when in fact the ratio below is larger, and finally you are comparing two numbers neither of which we know. Aside from that all good.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I get so fucking tired of everyone going by the github leak. If anyone thinks Playstation wont put up a fight for the performance crown.. You are wrong. See below, a commercial about the power of playstation posted 9 minutes ago. So stop!
There is no 9tf PS5. Its either 11, 12 or 13tf
Ftfy
mitchman
Gold Member
"So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC "
This is in the US alone, and I know 500 died in Norway last year due to flu (I was pretty shocked by that). Percentage-wise, this is higher than the coronovirus lethality. Victims of the coronavirus is largely people with weakened immune systems, just like with flu. A response and trying to contain it is warranted, but it's gone out of hand now. Anyway, very OT. Also, you're right about the mental issues
Burrito Bandito
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its almost as if people could be feeding on rumors to make their own “leaks” sound more legit...
OmegaSpear
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I hope it's 8-9TF. I want to buy both a Scarlet and PS5.
DrDamn
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They did in terms of area, but they were then comparing in terms of width. Graphics are all 3D these days, should convert to a cube and compare the ratio of one of the sides.
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Deleted member 775630
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It's more about not knowing how the Coronavirus might mutate, because they don't know enough about it."So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC "
This is in the US alone, and I know 500 died in Norway last year due to flu (I was pretty shocked by that). Percentage-wise, this is higher than the coronovirus lethality. Victims of the coronavirus is largely people with weakened immune systems, just like with flu. A response and trying to contain it is warranted, but it's gone out of hand now. Anyway, very OT. Also, you're right about the mental issues
Gamernyc78
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It'll be cool if thy team up to create a "great" mobile controller. The new Samsung is super powerful and it would be great for portable gaming. (I will be getting it
only thing tht kills me is it won't be subsidized because I've been on boost mobile for years.).Also, and it's been posted before, the fast transition was referring to BC:“As fast as possible”.....as in, using their PSN and users’ digital games and cloud stuff, the transition will be much smoother, that’s what they meant, they didn’t mean that it will be a cheap console like PS4 at $400.
And it seems like you turn the blind eye and ignore when Sony said that the PlayStation 5 is for “hardcore gamers who obsess over the latest graphical and technology features” and that it is going to be made primarily for the “highest-end graphics” as Sony told Wall Street Journal in June of 2019, not to mention the specs that they have announced so far are very next-gen looking, but you will spin everything to fit your agenda of course and say that Sony is focusing for the $400 when NONE of what they said points to that.
Here is the Wall Street Journal news:
Sony Positions Next PlayStation for Hard-Core Gamers
Sony’s next-generation PlayStation is still more than a year away, but its marketing strategy against newcomers like Google is already clear: Focus on hard-core gamers who obsess over the latest features.www.wsj.com
That's not what was said.
PS5 Backwards Compatibility Will Play a Key Role in Transitioning PS4 Players to Next-Gen, Says Sony
Sony notes "seamless" jumpwww.pushsquare.com
"We will leverage Backwards Compatibility to transition our community to Next Gen faster and more seamlessly than ever before."
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf (page 5)
Of course a lower price can also means that too. But that quote was about BC.
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Deleted member 775630
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What do you want from a mobile controller? The Razer Kishi might be what you are looking for (once it will release).It'll be cool if thy team up to create a "great" mobile controller. The new Samsung is super powerful and it would be great for portable gaming. (I will be getting it
Fun Fanboy
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I get so fucking tired of everyone going by the github leak. If anyone thinks Playstation wont put up a fight for the performance crown.. You are wrong. See below, a commercial about the power of playstation posted 9 month ago. So stop!
There is no 9tf PS5. Its either 11, 12 or 13tf
Power doesn't matter. It's about the games!
saintjules
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I find this interesting because I went to Gamestop yesterday to pick up Divison 2 because of the sale. When I asked any news on that PS5 pre-order? The Employee says, "uhhh (looks at co-worker)...no not yet".
Mendou
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I get so fucking tired of everyone going by the github leak. If anyone thinks Playstation wont put up a fight for the performance crown.. You are wrong. See below, a commercial about the power of playstation posted 9 month ago. So stop!
There is no 9tf PS5. Its either 11, 12 or 13tf
That reminds me of when they were boasting about the power of their Cell processor. It's similar to this commercial:
saintjules
Member
A lot of People will be discredited if they're wrong about this month. Better to be quiet at this point imo.
Burrito Bandito
Banned
I get so fucking tired of everyone going by the github leak. If anyone thinks Playstation wont put up a fight for the performance crown.. You are wrong. See below, a commercial about the power of playstation posted 9 month ago. So stop!
There is no 9tf PS5. Its either 11, 12 or 13tf
why would they be wrong to think that though? Logically speaking, they dont have as much incentive as MS to win the power game, nor do they from a business perspective. Sony dominated this gen, they know that. They know that this means they already have a large install base for ps5, they dont NEED to win over customers from MS. They likely have zero desire to take financial losses on ps5 units, why would they? From a business standpoint, they would be very comfortable having a slightly weaker unit than MS if it means they wont have to take a loss and their competitor would. MS are the ones in position who need to make a splash
pawel86ck
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I get so fucking tired of everyone going by the github leak. If anyone thinks Playstation wont put up a fight for the performance crown.. You are wrong. See below, a commercial about the power of playstation posted 9 month ago. So stop!
There is no 9tf PS5. Its either 11, 12 or 13tf
Both Sony and MS have long history of lies, so maybe it's wise to stop believing everything they say. The thing is, until Sony and MS will officially reveal detailed specs every scenario is possible. What if both XSX and PS5 are below 10TF like verified insiders (Heissenberg and VFXVeteran) suggest? I bet many people here dont even consider this possibility
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saintjules
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Good ol' memories:
Andodalf
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100%, PS5 can get away with a mild power gap at the same price and still be the easy market leader, or if it there was a ps4/XB1 sized gap and they in cheaper, I think they'd probably see even more success because of it.
Gamernyc78
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I'll chk it out. The majority of the ones I've seen have lukewarm reviews for diff reasons.
Thanks for the info though.
Ohhhh tht looks like it'll fit the bill. Looks promising.
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Yeah and size doesn't matter. Oh wait....
LED Guy?
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Oh OK it seems like I have messed up or got things mixed up wrongfully, but yeah, it isn’t about the price like I said.
Fake
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
If the final console is that V shape, I don’t even know what to say other than I would have to give them credit for the balls to do it. While it wouldn’t be as huge as the dev kits, it would still be a large unit.
Crazy...
But why wouldn’t you printscrreen the monitor...? Oh right, because it looks more real if you take a photo
Crazy...
But why wouldn’t you printscrreen the monitor...? Oh right, because it looks more real if you take a photo
Similar to DevKit design confirmed for final product?Nice find.
OmegaSpear
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Guess the PS5 is ugly.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
So basically, you're just repeating what other people have said? lol
Jim Ryan's quote sounds more on the lines of easily transitioning people over to the PlayStation 5 through BC. Players have spent years under the PlayStation ecosystem and now they can play all of their games day one as soon as they boot up their PS5. This wasn't a factor with PS4 since it didn't offer BC day one.
The Mad Draklor
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I had the same thoughts about Gamepass. It's great for consumers. No doubt about it. However, if you're Microsoft and you absolutely know that millions of consumers are subbed to Gamepass thanks to its extremely low price, do you necessarily have to try at that point?
Fun Fanboy
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Nintendo fans know.
Fake
Member
Dunno, but some on reddit saying are fake.
Bladed Thesis
Member
It'll be cool if thy team up to create a "great" mobile controller. The new Samsung is super powerful and it would be great for portable gaming. (I will be getting it
You can clearly see the announcement places an emphasis on xCloud. Makes sense since mobile gaming is massive in the Asian markets.
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Niked
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Games rely on power to be able to fullfill the vision as much as possible.
chemical boy
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I hope it is confirmed, I love the design in V.
Disco_
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It is a custom chip, but why does that mean it's not based on navi10?
Who ever said navi10 is strictly consumer gpu and nothing else? navi10 is code for feature sets for the initial navi designs(chronologically it's 10>12>14>21>22>23 IIRC). PS5 is supposedly navi10 lite, because its developments started alongside navi. "Lite" means apu/iGPU but IIRC navi10 lite is not strictly navi10 in apu/iGPU form.(pretty sure apisak or komachi have said so). All it means is that these APUS have been in development as far back as original navi designs but have been customized with more current feature sets.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Why?
A good chunk of us (myself for certain, but likely many others) are using it as part of the equation, not the only variable. And even its place in the equation as a variable has conditionals.
It is related to PS5. It is pertinent to the discussion. But it is not the full picture, just a part of it. Same with the insiders, same with the benchmarks, same with various tech analysis'.
Very, very few people are looking at the Github leak and saying it's 100% exactly what PS5 will be. No one's been doing that for a very long time tbh.
Also..you know that's just a commercial right? xD. They are meant to sell you on ideas and themes, but should be interpreted figuratively. It'd be smarter to view it as a statement on the strength of the brand (which is very powerful indeed
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Evilms
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Nice find.
Fake 100%
PlayStation 公式サイト | 本体・ゲームタイトル・周辺機器
PlayStation 5とPlayStation 4で広がるゲーム体験。大注目のシリーズからインディタイトルまで、プレイステーションでお楽しみください。
www.playstation.com
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FranXico
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That's all well and good. There definitely is something to it.
Unfortunately, it is the ones who want to believe that the github leak tells the whole story that won't stop bringing it up.
Fun Fanboy
Banned
I'd imagine because it makes the PS5 weaker than the Xbox from the look of it. It's why power won't matter if it's true. And like I post above few post back, it'll be about the games. When Xbox One X came out, power didn't matter. It's about the games/exclusives. That's why it's all fun.
The flip flopping is a beautiful thing to see, and I too love to take part in it.
Niked
Member
Below 10 TF is not on the table. They will not be weaker then Google Stadia and Mark Cerny said 8-9tf is bare minimum to have RT. Just stop it. Both companies are in the bleeding edge race. Get grips with the reality. For all we know, both companies use the insiders for a missinformation campaign.Both Sony and MS have long history of lies, so maybe it's wise to stop believing everything they say. The thing is, until Sony and MS will officially reveal detailed specs every scenario is possible. What if both XSX and PS5 are below 10TF like verified insiders (Heissenberg and VFXVeteran) suggest? I bet many people here dont even consider this possibility
Also, sure companies lies but I think Sony has been very thrustful this generation (still not 100%, but close)
FranXico
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He said 8TF was the mininum for 4K at a certain graphical fidelity. Not sure by which standards, but he wasn't referring to RT.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It's a PS4\PS5 game, so yeah, it's going to look like an upscaled PS4 game with some improvements.
You're also comparing it to in-engine footage with literally no gameplay.
ThaMonkeyClaw
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Fake 100%
PlayStation 公式サイト | 本体・ゲームタイトル・周辺機器
PlayStation 5とPlayStation 4で広がるゲーム体験。大注目のシリーズからインディタイトルまで、プレイステーションでお楽しみください。
It could be fake or it could have been legit, if it was legit I am sure they would have taken it down fairly quickly, but on the flip side it is something that is easy to fake, so obviously, take it with a grain of salt. I even checked the Wayback Machine and didn't see any PS5 logos or references in the HTML code.
Disco_
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Some people have made it their life's goal to preach github as the end all be all. Same people who say "ps5 with 9.2 is still a great system, next gen will be amazing", while sporting a "insert 1st party ms title" avatar.
Console wars are not about supporting the stronger system but about the system you're not supporting being the inferior one.
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Handy Fake
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PlayStation 5 | Play Has No Limits | PlayStation
これだけ知っていれば大丈夫。PlayStation 5本体とPlayStation 5デジタルエディション、PS5おすすめのゲーム、PS5周辺機器と、DualSenseワイヤレスコントローラーのご紹介。
www.playstation.com
Just added ps5 on the end of the link and that popped up. Don't know any Japanese though...
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PlayStation 5
Scheduled to be released during the year-end sales season of 2020
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Deleted member 775630
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Just because it's not there anymore doesn't mean it's a fake. Sony might have seen that it was there too early, and decided to remove it.Fake 100%
PlayStation 公式サイト | 本体・ゲームタイトル・周辺機器
PlayStation 5とPlayStation 4で広がるゲーム体験。大注目のシリーズからインディタイトルまで、プレイステーションでお楽しみください。
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I'm still very impressed with how good Project: Mara's RT looks. It's being designed as a PT-scale game IIRC, so that graphical fidelity should be possible in-game.
The Godfall and this game's footage haven't been particularly "next-gen" feeling by comparison, but there's definitely things in the footage for them much better than the typical PS4 game, such as IQ. They're also not 1st-party titles like Project:Mara and Hellblade 2 are.
I think we'll be similarly impressed once Sony start showing off, say, Gran Turismo 7 or maybe even TLOU2 with RT, in the near future
I've seen maybe, literally only one poster doing that with the Github leak. And all the same there are posters who keep insisting the leak is 0% relevant and should not be mentioned whatsoever. There's extremes on both sides with regards to it, just is what it is
.Just know if I happen to bring it up, it's only as part of other data and as a means to reach an end in a logical (as logical we can have without much hard, official data) theory regarding these systems.
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01011001
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"the next Ninja Gaiden title coming from Tecmo"
lol... also pressure sensitive face buttons still are one of the worst Ideas ever. using them in racing games is imprecise and every other implementation was just annoying.
Niked
Member
Regarding people saying SSD has only load time benefits, please read this:
SSDs are a different beast altogether. Sony’s next-gen console will feature its own purpose-built drive, and what this offers goes beyond greatly reduced loading times and the ability to swoop through crisply presented open worlds at breakneck speeds – though those are both important. IO Interactive lighting artist Stefania Hernandez comments: "Load times can have a big impact on what is possible for game artists. Faster load times give us extra room to add details like props, materials, textures, and lightning, among others with less impact on performance compared to the previous-generation console."
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ga...discuss-the-potential-of-the-next-generation/
SSDs are a different beast altogether. Sony’s next-gen console will feature its own purpose-built drive, and what this offers goes beyond greatly reduced loading times and the ability to swoop through crisply presented open worlds at breakneck speeds – though those are both important. IO Interactive lighting artist Stefania Hernandez comments: "Load times can have a big impact on what is possible for game artists. Faster load times give us extra room to add details like props, materials, textures, and lightning, among others with less impact on performance compared to the previous-generation console."
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ga...discuss-the-potential-of-the-next-generation/
ThaMonkeyClaw
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PlayStation 5 | Play Has No Limits | PlayStation
これだけ知っていれば大丈夫。PlayStation 5本体とPlayStation 5デジタルエディション、PS5おすすめのゲーム、PS5周辺機器と、DualSenseワイヤレスコントローラーのご紹介。
Just added ps5 on the end of the link and that popped up. Don't know any Japanese though...
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PlayStation 5
Scheduled to be released during the year-end sales season of 2020
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https://www.playstation.com/ja-jp/ps5/
Looks to be the same thing as the US/UK pages...
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