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[JokerMM]

Playing this rn and holy fuck, it's more addicting than souls games, combat is absolutely sublime.

I love the loot system, it's exactly like diablo, and that sets it apart from the other souls like games

Also, love how side quests are basically set in main quests maps but flipped around, adds a nice twist to them

All in all, I'm having a blast

 

[Antwix]

I just bought it on pc like 2 weeks ago and haven't yet tried it out. I forgot about it for a long time. But yeah, diablo + souls, very cool. Looking forward to checking it out soon.

 

[NeverYouMind]

How far are you in the game? It gets a bit repetitive after a while and a great amount of cool stuff is reserved for after you beat the main campaign...

 

[LectureMaster]

The best combat system on the market. Depth, variety, satisfaction, all got you covered.

 

[Zacfoldor]

One of the best action games ever made. I hold Nioh 2 in very high regard!

 

[tomato shrub]

Best Team Ninja game post Ninja Gaiden.

 

[Evolved1]

I’ve never been able to adjust to the timing of their games. I’ve played them all, tons… and Nioh2 I played to death. Still fuckin suck at it. Something about the way enemies move and attack, completely unreadable to me. Just looks like, idk… just weirdly timed blurry noise. That what my brain sees. At least I can read the enemies in Souls games. They’re ironically starting to turn into animation spam now too though.

 

[Gaiff]

The best combat system on the market. Depth, variety, satisfaction, all got you covered.

Not with Ninja Gaiden 2 around, no.

Best RPG combat system though.

 

[Larxia]

Gameplay is good but I'll never understand how can someone enjoy a loot system like this. To me it was maybe the worst thing about the game. Way too much loot, all the time, constantly. You always have to manage your loot and clean up your inventory all the time, it's a huge chore and it gets super tedious.
I don't even understand the point of it. Upgrading weapons and such is pointless because you get new loot every 15 seconds, making each new loot feel completely meaningless, it's too much.
It's much more interesting when you only get unique loot in much fewer amounts.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I hate both Nioh games

- Terrible level design
- Bland looking levels
- super mediocre art-direction
- Over convoluted gameplay mechanics
- nonsensical stories
- bullshit, OCD inducing loot system for the OCD kiddies

This isn't the right way to copy the souls formula.

Big Team Ninja fan btw, just not a fan of this bullshit

 

[LectureMaster]

Not with Ninja Gaiden 2 around, no.

Best RPG combat system though.

The best combat system on the market. Depth, variety, satisfaction, and accessibility all got you covered.

Fixed my post, still best combat system.

 

[Soodanim]

I enjoyed the first Nioh game until just after the main story was finished. I wanted to tackle some DLC before NG+ and I hit a wall with a difficulty spike boss where I realised I had instantly stopped caring about the game and just like that it was uninstalled forever.

How does 2 compare to 1?

 

[LectureMaster]

It's a pity many folks hate the loot system. It really shines in the final end game (NG+5). Just not much people stuck through to there.

 

[DavidGzz]

It's got great systems but the world is so boring. Quit 5 missions in. The aesthetic, level design, and story didn't grab me.

 

[Ogbert]

I’ve never been able to adjust to the timing of their games. I’ve played them all, tons… and Nioh2 I played to death. Still fuckin suck at it. Something about the way enemies move and attack, completely unreadable to me. Just looks like, idk… just weirdly timed blurry noise. That what my brain sees. At least I can read the enemies in Souls games. They’re ironically starting to turn into animation spam now too though.

I’m in the same boat.

I think the visuals are a little too hectic; tells aren’t as precise. And there’s a dislocation between movement and swing speed that I didn’t really get the hang of.

Got through the game, but never really mastered it.

 

[Skifi28]

I loved it until I got stuck on like the second boss. It's not so much that it's hard, but I feel like I haven't understood half of its mechanics to be able and get past. It seems overly complicated for the sake of being complicated.

 

[LectureMaster]

I enjoyed the first Nioh game until just after the main story was finished. I wanted to tackle some DLC before NG+ and I hit a wall with a difficulty spike boss where I realised I had instantly stopped caring about the game and just like that it was uninstalled forever.

How does 2 compare to 1?

2 really is a refined version, better polished combat system(more weapon types), with soul core adding another layer of depth.

The graphics are nicer, but level designs and vibea imo are slightly regressed.

The DLC difficulty curve and endgame design are much better than 1.

But it is not some groundbreaking evolution.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

I grew tired of the way loot was handled in the first game. I finished it but after a few hours of a 2nd playthrough I was done with it. It pretty much turned me off the sequel. It does look decent though.

I am addicted to PoE 2 right now though so I guess that kinda makes me a hypocrite lol

 

[Larxia]

I hate both Nioh games

- Terrible level design
- Bland looking levels
- super mediocre art-direction
- Over convoluted gameplay mechanics
- nonsensical stories
- bullshit, OCD inducing loot system for the OCD kiddies

This isn't the right way to copy the souls formula.

Big Team Ninja fan btw, just not a fan of this bullshit

The worst part about the level design is that Nioh 2 re uses sooo many levels from Nioh 1. It's also kind of ridiculous how they always hide enemies in corners, to the point that it becomes super predictable, everytime you see a corner with new views on the side, you know there will be an enemy waiting to jump on you, so it feels quite stupid after a while lol.

It's a pity many folks hate the loot system. It really shines in the final end game (NG+5). Just not much people stuck through to there.

If you have to play a game five times for one of the systems to start making sense... there is a problem.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

I really liked the Soul Core system.

 

[Monkfish877]

Not as good as the first imho, way too easy, the bosses bar 2 or 3 can be easily beaten without much effort, enjoyed Nioh 1's difficulty far more.

 

[Pejo]

So many great systems and the gameplay is as deep as you want it to be. One of my favorite games of all time. Any game with a dedicated sheathing button/animation is worth my time.

My only complaint is that it gets a bit noisy/messy on the screen sometimes with the numbers and the effects by default. You can turn off damage numbers, which makes it better IMO.

 

[Hudo]

Controversial opinion: NiOh 2 is the direction Blizzard should have taken with Diablo 4, imho.

 

[Ceadeus]

It's freaking great.

Wo Long is also very good, you should give it a try.

 

[Freeman76]

I enjoyed the first Nioh game until just after the main story was finished. I wanted to tackle some DLC before NG+ and I hit a wall with a difficulty spike boss where I realised I had instantly stopped caring about the game and just like that it was uninstalled forever.

How does 2 compare to 1?

Imo the first one was better, got the plat and still played another 200 hours after that. Nioh 2 I gave up way before the end

 

[Danjin44]

I love the loot system, it's exactly like diablo

That basically my entire reason why I cant get in to Nioh series.....I just cant stand diablo style loot systems.

 

[bender]

I like Nioh and Nioh 2 a bunch, but sometime recently I've really grown to dislike randomly generated loot and I'm overly fatigued by the souls formula. That said, this series and Lies of P are my favorite non-FromSoftware souls titles.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Loved it. Once the combat clicks it’s so satisfying. Also playing as

Spoiler

Ryu

was awesome.

 

[NT80]

I liked the 1st game. The combat is fantastic and many of the bosses are excellent but there are things about it I really didn't like.
When I played the open beta of Nioh 2 just before release I thought it was going to be amazing as it fixed most of the main gripes I had with the 1st game as well as building on what was great. When I played the full game though it felt like I'd seen most of the best stuff in those beta levels and the game tried to stretch things out too much. The enemy variety didn't hold up as the game went on, there weren't many good new ideas beyond what I saw in the beta and too many of the bosses went down on the first try.

 

[MagiusNecros]

The Souls game that is actually good

 

[Duellist]

Nioh fucking 3!! Let’s have it already!!!

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Can I skip nioh 1 and not miss anything ?

 

[Hohenheim]

Can I skip nioh 1 and not miss anything ?

Yeah! In Nioh 1 you play as a set character, in 2 you create your own.

 

[Hohenheim]

The Souls game that is actually good

It's very different from a Souls game in many ways.
It's more like a Souls/Ninja Gaiden/Diablo-hybrid of sorts, ain't it?

I loved Nioh 2 btw(and the first one too).
Definitely not Dark Souls-level for me(although I don't see any need to compare them that close) but very very good games indeed.
Nioh 2 gives me some intense covid-lockdown vibes though. Remember being isolated and playing the shit out of it.

 

[delishcaek]

People are still calling it a souls like jfc. It's a Ninja Gaiden+Diablo mix with some souls elements. Nothing in this game screams "souls formula" and if you play it like a souls game you get punished hard. It's like saying Sekiro is a souls like, which it isn't.

The only thing Nioh has in common with Souls is the bonfire mechanic and how you level up a character... that's it. Souls has no levels. Souls has no random loot (with tons of effects on it). Souls has no endgame progression like Nioh. Souls combat is based around stamina management, which isn't the case for Nioh's (that's what ki-pulse/flux is for).

Nioh's whole gameplay loop is comparable to an action RPG like Diablo and scratches a completely different itch, this is also why you see lots of people who couldn't warm up to Dark Souls ending up liking Nioh.

If you have to play a game five times for one of the systems to start making sense... there is a problem.

You don't play the game 5 times to progress into higher difficulties. That's not how the game works, progressing into higher difficulties is a matter of replaying whatever levels you want, you just need to fulfill certain requirements to progress into a higher difficulty. You simply keep on doing what you've been doing before, you just get new things to do on higher difficulties because new systems get unlocked and gear gets more complex.

It's again pretty similar to an ARPG like Diablo and the first playthrough is there to help you learn the basic mechanics of the game (mainly ki pulse and playing aggressively instead of playing it like Souls).

 

[Sharius]

yes, it's a truth, and the fact that team ninja trying their best to avoid making nioh 3 but keep put out lame clone like rise of ronin or wolong, isreally annoying me

 

[El Muerto]

I prefer it over any Fromsoft game. Combat is fast and smooth. Plenty of weapons to use.

 

[Sooner]

I loved them both. I remember it felt like 2 drug on a little too long by reading areas from the first game. It's been a while, so I don't remember too well.

 

[Sharius]

tbf, nioh only "soulslike" in your first playthrough AND if you chose to, it offer a ninjutsu and magic build that play pretty much very similiar with ninja gaiden, and from NG+ forward it more like ninja gaiden mixing with diablo loot hunting unless you ignore most of equipment set to play it like souls game

 

[MagiusNecros]

It's very different from a Souls game in many ways.
It's more like a Souls/Ninja Gaiden/Diablo-hybrid of sorts, ain't it?

I loved Nioh 2 btw(and the first one too).
Definitely not Dark Souls-level for me(although I don't see any need to compare them that close) but very very good games indeed.
Nioh 2 gives me some intense covid-lockdown vibes though. Remember being isolated and playing the shit out of it.

Nioh 2 is a proper evolution of the genre IMO. High/Mid/Low stance for all weapons, gearsets, different builds, Yokai builds for Interrupts/Perfect Evade/Perfect Block. Combat where anything an enemy or boss does to pressure you to can do the exact same thing to them. It's a more fast paced game compared to the rigid and stiff methodical gameplay loop Fromsoft sticks to.

Reward system with Core Souls where you are defeating enemies and Megamaning their powers.

All Soulslikes all have a Souls EXP system, managing Ki Pulse is much more engaging then a Stamina bar which Souls game also tend to have.

And if it's not a Soul Clone it's probably what I would want out of a 3D Diablo game.

Souls is much more methodical and stiff. On top of that Souls is more of a Metroidvania where you go to multiple different zones.

Nioh 2 is IMO more arcade like where you go through different stages instead of interconnected levels.

 

[DaciaJC]

I played through Nioh 1 but never really warmed up to it, I remember feeling eager to get to the end about 2/3 of the way through.

Nioh 2, on the other, was thoroughly enjoyable start to finish, had a blast getting through NG+2 and the DLCs. Burst counters are incredibly satisfying to pull off. Loved the custom character creator and the story. Simply typing this out makes me want to get back into it again.

 

[Lee49]

It's so fucking good. The series can be overwhelming at first with how many systems in place but when it clicks boy the combat slaps and the gameplay loop is addicting. I always find my self coming back to it.

Thread reminds me that I need to give Wo Long and Rise of the Ronin a go. With Rise of the Ronin in particular I've been putting it off because I've been massively disappointed with open world games lately but Team Ninja has earned a lot of good will with me that I'll try it and hoping the combat will carry me through it.

 

[bbeach123]

I hate both Nioh games

- Terrible level design
- Bland looking levels
- super mediocre art-direction
- Over convoluted gameplay mechanics
- nonsensical stories
- bullshit, OCD inducing loot system for the OCD kiddies

This isn't the right way to copy the souls formula.

Big Team Ninja fan btw, just not a fan of this bullshit

I agree with all of the above but I still enjoy the game . (seconds game)

 

[xenosys]

I hate both Nioh games

- Terrible level design
- Bland looking levels
- super mediocre art-direction
- Over convoluted gameplay mechanics
- nonsensical stories
- bullshit, OCD inducing loot system for the OCD kiddies

This isn't the right way to copy the souls formula.

Big Team Ninja fan btw, just not a fan of this bullshit

I agree.

I played about 10-15 hours of Nioh to give it a fair crack at the whip and I just got bored of it. The loot system is dreadful.

 

[Kabelly]

I've been meaning to get into these for so long but they always end up being put behind in my backlog. I did do a demo of Nioh 2 a long time ago once.

What's the issue with the loot? Can't you just sell excess? I've never actually played Diablo.

 

[DaciaJC]

I've been meaning to get into these for so long but they always end up being put behind in my backlog. I did do a demo of Nioh 2 a long time ago once.

What's the issue with the loot? Can't you just sell excess? I've never actually played Diablo.

You drown in loot, basically. There's plenty you can do with it, from dismantling for materials to trading stuff in at the shrine for amrita and elixirs or using weapons/armors for soul matching, but sifting through it all can get pretty tedious.

 

[Blank Space Invader]

I tried it and didn't click with it, so maybe it is time I give it another shot. I need an action game and I've tried all of the usual suspects..

 

[Branded]

Oh what a coinkidink! Just started playing it myself since yesterday. Loved the first game and I already appreciate how fast it just throws you in without ten thousand cutscenes or tutorials.

 

[Exede]

Personally i liked 1 way more than 2. But i cant say why, i really cant

 

[Hudo]

Also: Look into Stranger of Paradise. Heavily recommended.