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Pete Hines (Bethesda) on Starfield and Redfall
jhjfss
Member
What nightmares are made of.
ANIMAL1975
Member
And the TV dongle.
You do know that your post history is public young junior warrior? I'm starting to think you don't have mirrors at home.
Spidey Fan
Banned
I wish I was sadly, but I am not. I like to poke on both.And the TV dongle.
You do know that your post history is public young junior warrior? I'm starting to think you don't have mirrors at home.
I may come strongly for gamepass, but that is because value wise, its great for casual like me. Free Microsoft exclusive, and I save my money for PlayStation exclusive. In other news, I get to enjoy both systems thnx to gamepass.
Im sure it would be adjusted with gamepass being a thing and all too. Prob change to users instead of sales
Salty Popsicle
Banned
So? They would be a PlayStation Studio right now if Sony had wanted to pony up the cash. Microsoft and Bethesda don't owe anyone anything. You enjoyed their games on other consoles before? Good. If you want to continue enjoying them, get an Xbox or PC.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I bet a lot of people will think that it is "time" exclusive stillYeah, very vague...
Insomniac 229 million... Zenimax 7.5 BILLION.....
Thats a bit of a difference to "pony up"
Moneywise that is 32 Insomniac acquisitions..people dont seem to get how insane throwing up 7.5 BILLION is for studio acquisition
Between Minecraft and Zenimax MS have spent almost 10 Billion dollars
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It's the value of IP, man. Insomniac is a steal, but they have hardly any value IP on their own. That's why they were cheap to buy.
Fbh
Member
Yeah, very vague...
When did they show that? 4 days ago?
The Bethesda acquisition was announced in September of last year and the whole things was finalized in march of this year
Joshmyersbv
Member
I wonder what Bethesda expects from Starfield, You know in terms of sales. Does MS really believe by the time Starfield releases there will be enough Xbox owners out there to offset the loss of potential Playstation sales?
I don't think Bethesda are thinking too much about unit sales anymore, they don't need to. I don't think Microsoft are as well. It's probably all about Gamepass subscriber numbers and engagement.
The Alien
Banned
Where are the makers of Final Fantasy that have to explain and justify why their games will be exclusive to Sony?
This is stupid fanboy bullshit TBH.
Reminds me of when Keighley relentlessly pestered Phil Spencer about the timed exclusivity for ROTR. I truly wish Phil just bitch slapped him in the mouth.
If Sony made thus purchase, thered be zero doubts about exclusivity. MS bought Bethesda for $7.5B. Fork over $7.6B or keep your mouth shut.
This is stupid fanboy bullshit TBH.
Reminds me of when Keighley relentlessly pestered Phil Spencer about the timed exclusivity for ROTR. I truly wish Phil just bitch slapped him in the mouth.
If Sony made thus purchase, thered be zero doubts about exclusivity. MS bought Bethesda for $7.5B. Fork over $7.6B or keep your mouth shut.
IP + Tech (IdTech) + publishing infrastructure.
Zenimax runs its own studios and requires no time from Max Booty who can focus on XGS. They can handle the pipeline all the way to distribution if required.
Insomniac are devs. They can only handle the pipeline until the disc press.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I think the only IP they brought with them is Sunset Overdrive.
Blond
Banned
I still think it’s low key hilarious how many people on this forum talk about buying 2500 dollar televisions and theater level sound systems all the while saying “m0neY isnT aN issUe 4 m3” yet a 300 dollar box that you can walk into target and get most weeks is breaking the bank for them while they also (apparently) own high end PCs.
Maybe lay up on the high balance credit cards for a while?
Maybe lay up on the high balance credit cards for a while?
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
FatKingBallman
Banned
Why whining now, Pete? But you didn't complained before when MS bought you
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
Depends on Disney. I do think that MS will try to negotiate the contract regarding exclusivity. We'll see closer to release.
Actually there is a narrative I hear from time to time that people resign if they can't make the games for Playstation anymore. It is some occult thing or something.
Playstation owners will be able to play Starfield on their TVs (I hope they use one when performing their rituals) or if Sony allows browser on the console
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Redtemplar
Neo Member
Wath are you even talking about, are you really that dumb or are you trying to make us dumb with that comment?So if you purchase one studio at a time, it's good. If you purchase various studios at the same time, then it's bad.
Ok, got it...
The problem here is not buying one or various studios, the problem is buying one publisher with multiple multiplatform franchises with huge fanbase on other platforms that helped that franchises to grow over the years.
This kind of Microsoft practices doesn´t help the gaming industry or the gamers in general it only helps them, the games were going to reach both platforms already.
It's much healthier the strategy that sony uses buying small talented studios or funding projects that need the help from the big players to finance their projects and their visions.
I'm not saying that sony is the good guy and microsoft is the bad one, both have done a lot of things that just benefits them, and not the game industry or the gamers as a whole.
But the worst it can happen in this industry is the purchase of this big publishers like zenimax and all their popular properties it is just wrong and bad for the industry it just helps the ego of some fanboys thats all.
Totally agree!
Sushen
Member
I'm sure he was super sad when he made extra money out of the acquisition, haha.
Joshmyersbv
Member
I know gamepass is something MS is pushing hard but couldn't people get it for a $1 for Starfield and then cancel it when they beat it? I mean I would lol.
Mister Wolf
Member
You would be surprised how many people stay once in or even forget to cancel. This isn't a new racket.
Fess
Member
Lol I’m not even surprised, sounds like a typical millennial thing
Oh well, no loss, games will get better if adults are making them 
Forsythia
Member
Why isn't the media asking Marvel or other third party devs for an apology to Xbox/PC gamers for all the PS (timed) exclusives? And Bethesda is first party! It's ridiculous.
And Pete Hines is simply acknowledging that PS only players are frustrated they'll be missing out on Bethesda games from now on. There is nothing wrong with that
And Pete Hines is simply acknowledging that PS only players are frustrated they'll be missing out on Bethesda games from now on. There is nothing wrong with that
Darlingcognito
Member
He didn't have to say shit, PlayStation fans are just so damn entitled.
There is a couple of things:
- the stock market might not care honestly in the short term
- even if 20% of the users whom join for Starfield don't cancel afterwards, that could be an decent increase in subscribers
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
if we go by the internet an absolute shedload of PlayStation owners have good pc’s so they can justpick it up on PC. Failing that, there’s the various ways MS will have cloud gaming by next holiday so peeps could subscribe To gamepass for a month or two?
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nikolino840
Member
Xbox and pc
FatKingBallman
Banned
We are in the thread where he said this :
He can flip-flop as many time he wants.
Like i've said, he didn't whined before :
Why Microsoft Is the Perfect Fit
Today we announced we’re joining the Microsoft family...
Bethesda + Xbox: Just Getting Started
Today marks the beginning of a new chapter for Bethesda Softworks as part of the Xbox Team at Microsoft.
Looks like Bethesda, alongside with bugs in their games, also have bugs in their statements
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The Alien
Banned
Correct.... and as much as I loved SSOD, it ain't a very valuable commodity.
Maybe it finds new life on PS if it gets remastered. But honestly can't see that happening when they can devote resources and time to make a 12M selling Spiderman game.
CRAIG667
Member
This.
Fanbois are missing the big picture when they talk of sales.
It's all about subs.
Mister Wolf
Member
I'm glad Pete isn't in charge.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Negotiator101
Member
There's nothing he can do about it, Phil would put it on PS if they accepted Gamepass on there, it's Sony's fault if you think about it?
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Its really that simple. Sony fans need to get used to things as they are now. E.S.6 and Fallout are also going to be exclusive. There has to come a time when you just accept it. Its not like you can't just play the game on PC, Steam, Cloud and soon Samsung TV's. You've got options! Not to mention the new puck they have coming. It's kinda crazy how many ways you can play the game without even owning the console.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
I would bue sad to if they removed my game from the platform thats sells the best.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Just get it on PC or play it on Cloud. It'll be on GP and that's just about on every platform. Whats the issue? You guys are weird!