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Pre-TGS 2012 SCEJ Press Conference - Sep. 19, Midnight EDT; Sep. 18, 9PM PDT
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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The PSP was a smashing success out of the gate.
Why do people keep making these awful comparisons?
metalslimer
Member
Vita is selling worse than when the PSP vanished in the west...
I honestly don't know. The PSP did great numbers it's first couple of years which is the only reason why there was developer support in the first place combined with Sony's dominance in consoles at the time. Vita has none of that going for it.
vagabondarts
Member
Yeah, I don't remember that being the case.
So it's the Saturn of portables?
The Horror the horror
Banned
Pretty troubling.
But I've seen too many turnarounds in this industry to completely dismiss the Vita.
But I've seen too many turnarounds in this industry to completely dismiss the Vita.
Crisis Core was only known in name back then but it was an early announced title, it was always in mags like Game Informer but with almost zero news and them just showing the name month after month.
Father_Brain
Banned
None of the turnarounds you're referring to - PS3? PSP? 3DS? - are remotely comparable to what it would take to turn Vita around at this point. It's toast.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Duckroll said it's just a both in the SE thread.
ThatObviousUser
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No you need to watch the whole thing, it's got a slow creeping dread that not even the greatest of horror games is able to achieve these days.
Then it's over and you realize that yes, it is in fact reality that Sony just had a confrence, didn't announce anything new and some how decided to delay Soul Sacrafice right into the line of fire of the that is Monster Hunter 4.
IrishNinja
Member
it sold well but i recall it having fuckall to play for years there man, let's not revise history
Phife Dawg
Member
Can't be deader than dead.
ThatObviousUser
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yurinka
Member
thanks
Yeah, for a long time it was called the Luminess machine, and for good reason.
Not to mention all the games that were semi announed then never happened. Stuff like DMC PSP and other such titles.
yurinka
Member
As I remember Wipeout Pure and Ridge Racers were launch games and were awesome.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
When is the Vita coming out?
zerodayPopbot
Member
Same time as The Last Guardian it seems...
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Hey now, would you look at that.
GAF hyped themselves up to high heaven for a press conference and went into hysterics when it didn't match up to the expectations they created.
That sure was unexpected.
GAF hyped themselves up to high heaven for a press conference and went into hysterics when it didn't match up to the expectations they created.
That sure was unexpected.
They were. They even had alot of buzz as I remember.
Thing was Luminess took off, and not only that it became really popular with the casts of Podcasts which were pretty big at the time for gaming and we would hear so often how they all played Luminess and nothing else.
This right here is bullshit.
We got nothing but a delay and ports.
Hell if you go back to the first few pages alot of us were hoping for nothing more then ports be they announced or rumored. Even having low expectatoins the presentation outside of the new PS3 and Vita colors was a fail and showed zero large scale Japanese 3rd Party support and very little 1st Party support.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
This is the company that brought us 599 us dollars, come on.What.
Who makes these decisions.
leatherhat
Member
Too bad I wont be able to enjoy these. I doubt they will make it over to NA.
Their earlier versions did
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Yeah, after E3 and Gamescon, I expected nothing much, and it turns out to be just that. Gotta learn people.
Looks quite far off from what they've shown so far.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I'll grab Senran Kagura and Oboro Muramasa from what I've seen.
toddhunter
Member
Not true, people were expecting the worst. Then went into hysterics when it didn't match up to expectations.
Btw I would hardly judge the Vita on a bad Sony conference. It was still in the top 3 shows this year.
tamaster92
Member
*cries over the broken body of his vita*. Whhhyyyyyy??!!
Wyndstryker
Member
Lets get a refresher of whats coming for the Vita in any timeframe, including the coveted holiday season.
Just trying to get some perspective on how bad the Vita is doing.
Just trying to get some perspective on how bad the Vita is doing.
IrishNinja
Member
lol expecting games at TGS, ya'll never learn
mysteriousmage09
Member
Dead.
DEAD!
DiscoJer
Member
Support from Western developers started drying up after sales of the second GTA game, VCS didn't do nearly as well as the first.
But it had 2 years of good support. 2 GTA games, 3 Need for Speed Games, Star Wars Battlefront II, Midnight Club, Tekken, Ace Combat, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Justice League Heroes
I mean, here is the 2006 release list
http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/inde...her=&dist=0&sort=0&link=0&res=0&title=0&adv=1
Something like 120 games or so, all retail releases.
2007 wasn't as much, but still about a 100.
StreetsAhead
Member
If Yaiba is not for Vita...where is it going then?
Doing this actually makes it look worse.
Half the stuff announced was for 2013 and the one big game delayed into 2013. Not to mention we already knew it, but now this confirms FF X HD is at least 2013.
So Vita's to largest games are completely missing this holiday.
pieatorium
Member
IOS of course
xbox 360 exclusive obvs
Ingueferroque
Banned
Sony messed up.. and they had such beautiful hardware design! Truly it is the most promising and most disappointing handheld games device.
nelsonroyale
Member
Sony has gotten almost everything right in terms of the Vita hardware, and almost everything wrong with drumming up software support....What are they doing??? Even the psp had stuff from SE. The vita is a far better device than the PSP.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Man. I don't even know. I've got an 18 day trip coming up, but after that it may be time to unload the Vita (after a quick Assassin's Creed play through). I waited for e3 and was underwhelmed by announcements, waited for TGS and was underwhelmed by announcements. It's hard to hold onto something that I'm using 99% for PS1 and PSP games.
We'll see how I'm feeling in a month.
We'll see how I'm feeling in a month.
IrishNinja
Member
some good names there, i stand corrected...shouldve said stuff i was interested in. i like Tekken, MUA and such, i just dont really seek them much on handhelds, so i was kinda immune to those releases.
like Assassin's on Vita - it looks like a good stand-alone title, and i enjoy that series, just not enough to get me onto a new platform. it's one of those ill put on a list to get for < $20 when there's a bunch of things on said list or something i really have to have manifests. im in the same place with the vita right now, naturally.
That's a really good question. I guess we'll have to wait to see if it pops up tomorrow at some other publisher's booth.
It could very well be the system that is causing it.
Given this thing and even DS was partly doomed in the west fromt he outset, being so much more advanced then the 3DS when the 3DS could easily fit in between Vita and PSP could have only hurt it.
3DS allows for easy transition and given the software exclusives it's not just like Sony can force Developers to give them exculsives so they don't even have big named install bases to offer 3rd Parties.
immortal-joe
Member
I say this in every damn Vita-related topic, but it needs repeating...
Monster Hunter....that's ALL this system needed.
Price is not the problem
Proprietary stick is not the problem
Late PSX support is not the problem
Any hit 3DS game besides Monster Hunter is not the problem
People will continue to over-analyze this for years, but Monster Hunter killed the VITA, just like it gave the PSP life. Nintendo knew this, so they secured the whole fucking franchise (by whatever means).
That's it, nothing else worth discussing in "why the Vita failed".
Monster Hunter....that's ALL this system needed.
Price is not the problem
Proprietary stick is not the problem
Late PSX support is not the problem
Any hit 3DS game besides Monster Hunter is not the problem
People will continue to over-analyze this for years, but Monster Hunter killed the VITA, just like it gave the PSP life. Nintendo knew this, so they secured the whole fucking franchise (by whatever means).
That's it, nothing else worth discussing in "why the Vita failed".
The what? Is that like the PSP2 or something?