If we're again going to be getting 60@1080 or 30@4K, I'll be sticking with 1080p.
My TV only does 1080p at any rate, and I've read that since I sit roughly 10 feet away upgrading to a 4K TV would be a complete waste of time (although I'll be missing out on HDR).
"Powerful SSD" That's all I needed to see to convince me that this is a tale from somebody's ass.It is kind of amazing how console people gobble up buzzowrds. "POWERFULL SSD !!"
just wait as someone will mention ssd being ground breaking and never seen before. Whilesata ssds are already outclasses by m2 in pc enthusiasm segment. Also link, just like on page 1, saying most pc players have worse hardware than their pricy plastic boxes."Powerful SSD" That's all I needed to see to convince me that this is a tale from somebody's ass.
We will believe it again, because "THIS TIME" it will be real.
Looking at this in 2013 and saying, but this isn't Motorstorm or Killzone, this is real-time, we can count the pixels
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We all well know how that ended.it will always make me laugh to see these hopes on the 60 fps becoming a standard console ... The PS5 and the Xbox Two will make the native 4K at 30 fps on 90% of the games ... Ah and read bullshit like "the demo turns at 25-30 fps but will surely turn 60 fps later because it is not not optimized "makes me die of laughter ...
Lets not pretend PC gamers are playing on average even at the standard of a base level PS4.....
PC gamers are generally full of hot air
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Steam survey shows PC gamers are still mostly playing in 1080p and lower
Valve Software’s latest hardware and software survey for July reveals that 63.72 percent of Steam’s registered members still play games with a 1,920 x 1,080 resolution. Even more, 13.33 percent of Steam’s gamers play at 1,366 x 768 while only 1.14 percent are playing at 3,840 x 2,160.www.digitaltrends.com
It was actually the PS1 tech demo (which really impressed prospective third parties at the time):
Of course, the 3D graphics in actual games never reached this level. Here is the Tomb Raider T-Rex for comparison:
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It's a good reminder not to believe all the hype as we enter a new gen (although it's fine to be excited, of course).
So...congrats on being the 1%.I play PC games at 4K and 1440p ultrawide though, why do I care about this survey?
I know you're saying about 1% on steam. But Microsoft, windows OS holder, says there are over 800mln of win10 devices. So that 1% doesn't look that bad. Where's uplay stats or epic statys? oh, no ps4pro either.So...congrats on being the 1%.
Do you say similar things to other PC gamers who can't play over 1080p? I always wonder that....
Lets not pretend PC gamers are playing on average even at the standard of a base level PS4.....
PC gamers are generally full of hot air
Yeah, my bro used to have a 970... I actually recommended it to him. My main issue is that I don't know why PC gamers are always denigrating console as a form of playing games. It's perfectly legitimate, less work and can be a way for more games to be made due to Sony and MS actually funding games and studios....I know you're saying about 1% on steam. But Microsoft, windows OS holder, says there are over 800mln of win10 devices. So that 1% doesn't look that bad. Where's uplay stats or epic statys? oh, no ps4pro either.
Also I have 970 for 5 years now which is even better in games than ps4pro but I don't play on 1440p and that card alone was at one time at 7% in gpu stuff on steam.![]()
your lack skill of reading and formulate the sentence in bold is really makes me laught even more.it will always make me laugh to see these hopes on the 60 fps becoming a standard console ... The PS5 and the Xbox Two will make the native 4K at 30 fps on 90% of the games ... Ah and read bullshit like "the demo turns at 25-30 fps but will surely turn 60 fps later because it is not not optimized "makes me die of laughter ...
more powerful, faster more efficient that's exactly how people call gfx cards, ssd can also be more faster more efficient also more powerful.Yeah, powerfull SSD... Hahahaha... I hope the PS5 pro will have a more powerfull SSD than the classic PS5![]()
Noone is being negative about consoles. It's just console gamers try to pretend technology starts when sony buys it from amd. And over and over again it's the same, consoles cannot keep up with changing world. Just a though: you realise x360 released in 2005, 1080p is a standard in PC games for a decade (guys who don't hardware good enough for it probably don't care) and to this day xbox one owners cannot play games at 1080p without compromises compared to ps4? Yet ppl say ps5 and new xbox will blow anyone away. How to even treat you serious?Yeah, my bro used to have a 970... I actually recommended it to him. My main issue is that I don't know why PC gamers are always denigrating console as a form of playing games. It's perfectly legitimate, less work and can be a way for more games to be made due to Sony and MS actually funding games and studios....
So I don't see the negative for PC gamers in having a really healthy console market...
sata 3 is maxed by the worst ssd on market. All new ssd sata drives marketed as better is just a snake oil.more powerful, faster more efficient that's exactly how people call gfx cards, ssd can also be more faster more efficient also more powerful.
Noone is being negative about consoles. It's just console games try to pretend technology starts when sony buys it from amd. And over and over again it's the same, consoles cannot keep up with changing world. Just a though: you realise x360 released in 2005, 1080p is a standard in PC games for a decade (guys who don't hardware good enough for it probably don't care) and to this day xbox one owners cannot play games at 1080p without compromises compared to ps4? Yet ppl say ps5 and new xbox will blow anyone away. How to even treat you serious?
borderlands 3 looks nearly the same as bl2 which I own for 6 years. and bl3 came out a month ago. omgBut you do have to realize, games only seem to make a significant jump when a new generation comes around.
I fully expect 500 euro at launch.... but I've been saying that if they can reduce it over a year to year and a half to 400 or 450.... that would be fine. The hardcore will soak up the initial sales.All this is sounding like 'expensive' to me. I do hope Sony are willing to offset a loss with gained PS+ subs and don't get greedy.
proprietary ssd technology molded to mainboard isn't typical ssd sata drive.sata 3 is maxed by the worst ssd on market. All new ssd sata drives marketed as better is just a snake oil.
just as ps4 with jaguars are super pcs? man sony only buys that technology, it's already here and we have it. yes. we're rich enough to buy m2 drives (it's cheaper now)proprietary ssd technology molded to mainboard isn't typical ssd sata drive.
Is it a common thing for a dev to be able to optimize a game prototype to achieve a 2X+ increase in fps w/out downgrading image quality?
Sounds like maaaaagic
(I believe)
He's not anon, he's a former game magazine editor that still has 3rd party contacts in the industryIt was hugely impressive because of the SSD...
Then notes nothing that uses the ssd.
Talks about shadows like they are full raytracing .. no mention of any other forms of ray tracing.
Game runs at 4k at 25 fps .. but ya know the demo cant reach 30 fps so obviously when theres characters environments physics network code audio and u know more than a tree it will likely run at 60 fps.
The specs wont blow you away (because they obviously arent hugely impressive ) instead the games will ie a tree with shadows.
All from an anon user ..... all abord the hype train for this one guys ... soo exciting hearing all this amazing news!
Lol World of WarcraftBy what?
supercharged in 2013 it's exactly what it was that meaning it performs much better at equalent pc spec, because it's supercharged not super get it?just as ps4 with jaguars are super pcs? man sony only buys that technology, it's already here and we have it. yes. we're rich enough to buy m2 drives (it's cheaper now)
I am guessing it is the Horizon 2 demo, not a tech demo....How is this getting people hyped again? First of all, it's a tech demo...which means it's probably not even a real game, yet the guy says it's going to be the games that impresses. While I don't doubt that fact, how does he draw this from the tech demo? I'm not saying he's wrong I'm just trying to understand the logic. Was there, better physics? Maybe better AI? New environmental effects. Increased and more realistic destructible environments?
I mean help me out here. Apologies, I didn't read the article. I'm stealing enough time from work just typing this.
Horizon Zero Dawn doesn't need a fresh coat of paint. It's already one of the best looking games this generation and in my opinion, graphically, it's ahead of its time. If it is that, I would like to see some of the things i mentioned before. Especially a increase machine AI would be amazing for Horizon.I am guessing it is the Horizon 2 demo, not a tech demo....
From what I understand, it's a real game from a 3rd party studio. He says it couldn't be possible to render it on current gen consoles and it even looks levels above Red Dead Redemption 2.How is this getting people hyped again? First of all, it's a tech demo...which means it's probably not even a real game, yet the guy says it's going to be the games that impresses. While I don't doubt that fact, how does he draw this from the tech demo? I'm not saying he's wrong I'm just trying to understand the logic. Was there, better physics? Maybe better AI? New environmental effects. Increased and more realistic destructible environments?
I mean help me out here. Apologies, I didn't read the article. I'm stealing enough time from work just typing this.
except at that point in time you only could buy jaguar units in amd notebooks. So like 101% pc users had a better cpu at that point in ther pcs. But I think you won't understand it anyway.supercharged in 2013 it's exactly what it was that meaning it performs much better at equalent pc spec, because it's supercharged not super get it?
more money could buy you better hardware, god job for figuring it out, but you still don't get it we talking about same spec and sony didn't state that jaguar was supercharged they stated ps4 was supercharged. now think about that.except at that point in time you only could buy jaguar units in amd notebooks. So like 101% pc users had a better cpu at that point in ther pcs. But I think you won't understand it anyway.
Absolutely, I wanted free roaming bots.... having them tied to an area was a bit of a bummer but it was the first game....Horizon Zero Dawn doesn't need a fresh coat of paint. It's already one of the best looking games this generation and in my opinion, graphically, it's ahead of its time. If it is that, I would like to see some of the things i mentioned before. Especially a increase machine AI would be amazing for Horizon.
I never said sony did. Ea/ubi said that. Sony played the good game of not talking about specs as they knew how cheap ps4 had to be made.more money could buy you better hardware, god job for figuring it out, but you still don't get it we talking about same spec and sony didn't state that jaguar was supercharged they stated ps4 was supercharged. now think about that.
just as ps4 with jaguars are super pcs? man sony only buys that technology, it's already here and we have it. yes. we're rich enough to buy m2 drives (it's cheaper now)
That sounds promising, though my impression of Red Dead 2 was not "best looking game" this gen. I mean it was fine...but I was much more impressed with games like Horizon and Gears 5. Red Dead looks fantastic for an open world game, but it's still 30 FPS and I'm admittedly spoiled by PC in this regard.From what I understand, it's a real game from a 3rd party studio. He says it couldn't be possible to render it on current gen consoles and it even looks levels above Red Dead Redemption 2.
Imagine what some exclusives will look like
just wait as someone will mention ssd being ground breaking and never seen before. Whilesata ssds are already outclasses by m2 in pc enthusiasm segment. Also link, just like on page 1, saying most pc players have worse hardware than their pricy plastic boxes.
Yeah, it's debatable as to which game is the best looking, RDR2 is up there in the conversation for sure.That sounds promising, though my impression of Red Dead 2 was not "best looking game" this gen. I mean it was fine...but I was much more impressed with games like Horizon and Gears 5. Red Dead looks fantastic for an open world game, but it's still 30 FPS and I'm admittedly spoiled by PC in this regard.