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[Draugoth]

The rumor comes from Gabefollower, who has had a good track record of leaking Valve related information.


According to the account, they have confirmed with “several people” that Valve is aiming to release a new standalone wireless headset, which is codenamed Deckard, by the end of 2025.

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[Catphish]

Just in time to rescue me from my bricked Reverb G2.

 

[Loomy]

Valve better start making some VR games then.

 

[proandrad]

Half life 3 is going to be a VR game.

 

[analog_future]

Alright. Going to sell like shit at that price.

 

[Hookshot]

Gonna get 2, one for each eye

 

[metareferential]

Fuck yes.

We need a new high-end standard.

Valve better start making some VR games then.

VR has basically all the games.

With UEVR and new mods, basically everything can be played.

And besides, Valve already has the best of the best with HL (2 and episodes are also full-vr now).

They don't need games. It's the same approach as with the Deck.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm more of a $299 VR person myself.

 

[ssringo]

Been waiting on the next Valve VR set.

 

[Edder1]

Who even buys these things? As far as I know barely anyone bought Index and now they wanna make another expensive VR headset? Head scratcher this.

 

[tmlDan]

yea, no thanks

 

[viveks86]

So... Half Life 3 confirmed for end of 2025!

 

[TintoConCasera]

Might get one if it's wireless and not too heavy. The Index is great but the cable really fucks with the immersion.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Let Valve school everyone again on how its done.

The patents on deckard are fucking insane, not sure everything will end up on final product but they tested so many things. Gabe doesn't believe that chasing bottom of the barrel price for VR headset is the way to advance and I agree with him.

Bring on a game changer, I'm in!

Half life 3 is going to be a VR game.

Both 2D & VR for sure. They've seen the concept of it work so well with Half-Life 2 mods.

 

[Haint]

If it's $1200 with the Steamdeck 2 mini-PC streaming puck, it suggests the headset itself is probably going to be another shitty medicore LCD like Quest 3 which would be hugely and massively disappointing. We really really need a mainstream MicroOLED headset from a major company, I'm not buying from the Chinese con artist companies (Pimax) or half assed experimental products that are likely to close up shop tomorrow (Bigscreen, Megane).

 

[Magic Carpet]

As much as I like my Quest 3, I'm willing to abandon it for a Valve made headset.
I've bought lots of games for the Quest 3, mainly because it was standalone. If Valve can made it work stand alone with all PC games both VR and non VR I might pay 1200 bucks.

 

[ssringo]

Who even buys these things? As far as I know barely anyone bought Index and now they wanna make another expensive VR headset? Head scratcher this.

It's the most popular "expensive" VR set used according to Steam hardware surveys. Only losing out to the much cheaper Quest 2/3.

Spoiler

Apparently they never go on sale because they sell what they make.

 

[Gamer79]

In this economy a $1200 headset is fucked from jump street. Sure the people with money to burn with buy it but the masses will not. That price point just fucked themselves.

 

[Moses85]

 

[TintoConCasera]

197 bros how we feeling? HL3 incoming in VR form?

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[FoxMcChief]

Is it stand alone?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I'M SO FUCKING IN LETS GOOOO

 

[Three]

Valve better start making some VR games then.

They're likely going to make 1 game then nothing else and for some reason nobody will complain or care.

 

[Buggy Loop]

197 bros how we feeling? HL3 incoming in VR form?

Spoiler

yes

 

[Putonahappyface]

Please have a cable.

 

[dtrush]

DOA

 

[Buggy Loop]

Please have a cable.

Old patents were mentioning that it’s very modular

The kind of modularity where you can plug a cable, you can stream, you can plug a deck like device for local gaming, etc. There was even talk of modular opticals and screen.

To be seen if it sticks, but maybe the idea is also that this is the last VR headset you have to buy for a while. Swap whatever upgrade down the future but baseline remains same for years.

 

[ahtlas7]

1200?! ……..

 

[AJUMP23]

Too expensive for mass market adoption.

 

[Lord Panda]

Have been waiting for this for a billion and one years.

 

[Tunned]

The VR headset I am waiting for to jump back into VR. Hopefully it's as good as the Index.

 

[Audiophile]

Prediction: they'll nail almost every aspect but to save a few bucks on the bom they'll completely fall short in one specific area that undermines the whole experience, as opposed to just marking up an already expensive device by a few percent.

 

[12Goblins]

After playing alyx on my brother's index, this is the most non brainer day 1 for me

Sounds like they've been working on this concurrently with HL3

 

[rofif]

oh no.
I hate vr but I love hal flife.
Alyx was great but only on oculus cv1 headset. Every other headset I played it on sucked ass big time.
and cmon valve... not now. not with 10gb of vram on my 3080....

 

[neocycle]

VR failed. Bury it.

 

[kittoo]

If it comes with HL3, I am in.

 

[Arsic]

Half life alyx 2?

 

[metareferential]

ITT: "I hate VR" and at the same time "too expensive for mass adoption".

I'll never understand why you come into a thread like this if you're not interested in the topic/tech.

 

[thuGG_pl]

Who even buys these things? As far as I know barely anyone bought Index and now they wanna make another expensive VR headset? Head scratcher this.

Sim guys, like me. I can't wait for it.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

If we could get one headset to play PCVR, Quest VR and PS5 VR, that would be great . . . think i'm sticking with my psvr2 for ps5/pc and a quest.

 

[Thief1987]

They don't need games. It's the same approach as with the Deck.

So another flop

 

[rofif]

VR failed. Bury it.

You will be disregarded but you are absolutely correct.
I was HUGE vr apostle. I had dk1 (6 months preorder) as an early adopter, dk2, cv1, S(2 times), quest 1,2, (3 I only bought for my dad)... I also had psvr2, played with hp g2, index....
Each time, I sold it after 2-3 months. It's uncomfortable, hot, sweaty, ruins your hair (seriously), needs glasses or prescription lenses or eye contacts.... and then astigmatism is even worse.
The onyl headsets that had great focal length at around 2 meters were early oculus like cv1 and quest 1. I did not need glasses for those.
psvr2 is uncomfortable, wobble, falls of my head, batteries last 3 hours in controllers. And you still see the grain after all of it.

And the games? Over tutorializing, casual city, constant monologues of tutorial guy/narrator in 99% of vr indie games.
Even great games like Alyx are horribly simplified compared to real fps on pc like hl2. They throw less enemies at you, less weapons, less is going on. Everything is made so EVERYONE can reach it, do it and fight the enemies.

And then I sit in front of a 48" oled in complete dark room and it looks 100x better.....
I hope hl3 is a normal game.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Is VR really still a thing? I can't imagine growth has been that great.

 

[StereoVsn]

It will be interesting to see what they offer and if the headset can also wirelessly tether to a desktop for more performance.

 

[Griffon]

And with this, Meta won the market forever.

Gaming headsets over 500$ never have a chance. Unless the form factor is radically better and lighter, I don't see the point to paying more.

 

[Romulus]

VR failed. Bury it.

You can dig up threads from 2016 with people saying this with confidence. It's not going anywhere. They were wrong and so are you.

Meta, Sony, valve could bow out tomorrow and uevr will survive. Its incredibly good at this stage. I'm playing Avowed/robocop/outer worlds/borderlands 3 now and it's like I'm literally inside those worlds with great image quality. Take off the headset and look at my monitor of the same image but its completely soulless and void of any depth or scale. Absolutely inferior and not .1% of the immersion.

But this valve news just extended VR for even more YEARS. So in 2035 you can remind us again how VR is dead because other brands will try and leapfrog valve's tech again. It keeps going...

BTW quest 3s outsold every game console in the US in 2024 amazon. But the kicker was the data was only 3 months of quest 3s sales vs 12 months of console sales.

 

[xrnzaaas]

People are not going to pay 1200 dollars just to have a chance to play HL3. What would be likely in that scenario is that a mod for the "flat" version would become very popular, even if that meant getting an inferior experience. I know two HL fans who did that with Alyx, probably to experience the story in non-youtube way.

 

[Euler007]

In this economy a $1200 headset is fucked from jump street. Sure the people with money to burn with buy it but the masses will not. That price point just fucked themselves.

It's like car companies, they're chasing the pockets of rich people and pretending the median person doesn't matter.

 

[metareferential]

Is VR really still a thing?

Are dumb arguments like this still a thing?

I thought threads about VR were going to be different 10 years on.

Instead we're here again. Let's see.

"I don't like it": who gives a shit, it's not like you're forced to play.

"I want the game on a 2d screen": I also want many things, I just don't go bitching about whenever I get the chance.

"It will never reach mass adoption": no one gives a shit 2. It doesn't need to, to have great experiences people want to play.

"VR is dead": it's not. Get over it.

"VR is a fad": it's not. Get over it.

"Too expensive/normal screens look better": there's a headset at every price point. It's a peripheral, that enables you to play in a different way; and it's relatively new and expensive tech, so it's getting better.

Remember the first lcds?