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[LordOfChaos]

What was the controversy, other than some people weren't attracted to her?

A person of colour or female existing on screen as a main character is not in itself DEI or woke to me, unless the game is beating you over the head with actual woke messaging. Other things like Ciri's random bone structure change are no that, they're just internally inconsistent unless that was just a CG trailer oddity and they didn't have the original model.


I do think the actresses response will only make things worse as people take this as a confirmation of everything they accused it of.

 

[LordOcidax]

I was starting to not care, but if she’s gonna act like this, I might have to skip the game. Not even rent.

Looks like that it’s going to get worse, i thought that some things was going to change, but nop. Splitting the fanbase of ND is a great idea.

 

[VulcanRaven]

What was the controversy, other than some people weren't attracted to her?

A person of colour or female existing on screen as a main character is not in itself DEI or woke to me, unless the game is beating you over the head with actual woke messaging. Other things like Ciri's random bone structure change are no that, they're just internally inconsistent unless that was just a CG trailer oddity and they didn't have the original model.


I do think the actresses response will only make things worse as people take this as a confirmation of everything they accused it of.

It wasn't just that people weren't attracted to her. Many called her ugly.

 

[OccamsLightsaber]

God I love her.

 

[Topher]

She just had to, didn't she?

 

[GymWolf]

I wonder if her attitude will change if the game flops. Like so many DEI games failed in 2024.

Probably too big to fail like an outlaws or failguard.

But i don't see this doing elden ring numbers or even close to that.

 

[FoxMcChief]

She just had to, didn't she?

Yeah, that was my reaction as well. I was getting over it and was gonna “deal with it”, but this is how you piss people off.

 

[Danknugz]

this shit is embarrassing for gamers. i always admired the gaming scene for NOT being social and being an escape from mainstream idiocy.

 

[FalconPunch]

Probably too big to fail like an outlaws or failguard.

Too big to fail implies a bailout from the government. No games will receive a bailout from the govt so the use of the term "too big to fail" is inappropriate for any game.

 

[Fahdis]

get out

Calling gamers WHO ARE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONSUMERS "incels" isn't something people would take lightly. This absolutely pissed me off. I loved ND, but because of this actress, I hope this shit fails.

Your purple forum is calling you that way, take this with you.

 

[Moridianae]

So what will be the story if this game fails to meet sales expectations?

Let me guess---everyone will be attacked, just like all the games before this.

 

[LectureMaster]

She just had to, didn't she?

My man Topher who were wishing the controversies would be gone and he could enjoy the game when it comes out:

 

[VulcanRaven]

Yeah, that was my reaction as well. I was getting over it and was gonna “deal with it”, but this is how you piss people off.

Maybe she got tired of people calling her ugly. Its very possible that she gets harrassed about it online constantly.

 

[Topher]

My man Topher who were wishing to the controversies would gone and he could enjoy the game when it comes out:

Nailed it. That's exactly what I was hoping.

 

[missiles]

This will be more entertaining than the game.

 

[FoxMcChief]

My man Topher who were wishing to the controversies would gone and he could enjoy the game when it comes out:

I wanted that too. ND is an incredible dev. But shit like this will only hurt them.

Maybe she got tired of people calling her ugly. Its very possible that she gets harrassed about it online constantly.

Then she either needs thicker skin, or find a job where here face/model isn’t out there.

 

[Fahdis]

Maybe she got tired of people calling her ugly. Its very possible that she gets harrassed about it online constantly.

She's not ugly.
She's Pug Fugly.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Calling gamers WHO ARE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONSUMERS "incels" isn't something people would take lightly. This absolutely pissed me off. I loved ND, but because of this actress, I hope this shit fails.

Your purple forum is calling you that way, take this with you.

I'm pretty sure she didn't call the vast majority of consumers that.

 

[LectureMaster]

I wanted that too. ND is an incredible dev. But shit like this will only hurt them.

Absolutely. Like I said before, I think ND is incredible not just because Neil Druckmann, but collectively as studio, the technologies, graphics, arts, are all head of the curve. But Druckmann's direction feels like it's hindering those legacy.

 

[tusharngf]

rule no 1 never reply like that. Keep it under control. You are not only damaging yourself but the game itself is in big trouble. We are talking about 300 million dollars here. I dont understand why Naughty dogs wants to go this way? why do we need to have some sort of message in the game. There are developers with families and children to feed.

 

[Saber]

So smart and intelligent that had to put Ciri alongside and draw her in a way to make her actually look decent.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Maybe she got tired of people calling her ugly. Its very possible that she gets harrassed about it online constantly.

And that post will certainly help in this regard

 

[AlphaDump]

So now it is "about that", congrats....God damn, just don't engage and keep focused on delivering a great product. I am so incredibly disappointed.

 

[LectureMaster]

Nailed it. That's exactly what I was hoping.

 

[kindaGoth]

As she should

Only weid folks care about how women look in videogames

Yup, utterly bizarre to see developers and studios work so hard to downgrade the appearance of the woman they hire. It’s how you know the culture war peaked.

 

[FoxMcChief]

The irony of the actress saying, “you mad bro?” isn’t lost on me though.

 

[Black_Stride]

Calling gamers WHO ARE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONSUMERS "incels" isn't something people would take lightly. This absolutely pissed me off. I loved ND, but because of this actress, I hope this shit fails.

Your purple forum is calling you that way, take this with you.

Where are you getting these metrics from?
Cuz imma hazard a guess this game still sells well enough even with a short haired character who happens to be blasian which pisses people off for reasons unknown.

Vast majority of consumers?

So what will be the story if this game fails to meet sales expectations?

Let me guess---everyone will be attacked, just like all the games before this.

PC port sooner rather than later.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Cringey as hell

Remind me of that rap the actress from The Acolyte did



Responding like this is always a bad move

Oh my god…

 

[GymWolf]

I think ND is big enough that they can get a real hollywood star. Not some unknown actress.

There are so many other talented actresses out there. Zendaya for one. Hell, pick anyone from the cast of Euphoria. But even their trans chick looks more attractive than this girl and Neil cant have that.

Neil saw her interview about hair equity in hollywood and it was love at first glance.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

lol taunting the audience and calling them incels. This will surely make the game a success now.

 

[SALMORE]

i think the problem is showing her shaving her head in the trailer ! she looks good her design is cool but the shaving part implies that the game might have agendas

 

[GymWolf]

Dude, you've missed out on so many gems, from the Yakuzas and Onimushas, to the Halos and Max Paynes, some of the great early Assassin's Creed titles, not to mention GoldenEye & other classics, just hand in your gamer card already, what a shallow and superficial reason to not play anything

What famous actors did max payne had? I have a lapsus.

 

[Brakum]

But you will miss on some good games.. Death Stranding and Cyberpunk for example.

Zero interest in those games regardless.

Dude, you've missed out on so many gems, from the Yakuzas and Onimushas, to the Halos and Max Paynes, some of the great early Assassin's Creed titles, not to mention GoldenEye & other classics, just hand in your gamer card already, what a shallow and superficial reason to not play anything

Goldeneye doesnt count, ithe videogame didnt invent the character, it's based on a movie, i expect the characters to look like the ones in the movie. I dont care if a star wars game has mark hamills face for luke, in that case, that is the prefered solution. I didnt miss out on Max Payne because i was a kid, it's not a type of game that would interest me now. Dont care about Yakuza and Onimusha. I didnt miss out on Halo's but i could have easily lived without Halo 5's campaign. I wouldnt have bought it for the campaign, and i loved halos campaigns until then, but that just looked like trash day one. Do other Halos use real actors faces? Maybe but i dont know, when i dont know it doesnt bother me because.. i dont know. I'm sure i played a decent amount of games where it happened and didnt know it. But if i see a face i know, i'm out.

To be fair i had no clue who this person was anyway but they certainly made sure that everyone knows about it by now.

 

[Alexios]

What famous actors did max payne had? I have a lapsus.

Wasn't just about "famous" in the post I quoted. Also about using a "real" face instead of making it up (which would probably end up looking like someone, somewhere anyway - Last of Us Elliot Page anyone? - outside some super stylized look like Dishonored or whatever).

 

[cormack12]

 

[Guerilla Munch]

they're doing it again lmao

 

[FoxMcChief]

Uh oh spaghettios

 

[GymWolf]

Nothing about "famous" in the post I quoted. Just about using a "real person".

Yeah but if they are not famous the dude probably played some of these games because he didn't know they were real people

But yeah, kinda of a meh reason to not play a game.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

You go girl!

 

[Fahdis]

I'm pretty sure she didn't call the vast majority of consumers that.

Vast majority of consumers?

What medium of forum are you both on. I spoke about "gamers" consuming games. What part got you both confused?

 

[Vlodril]

People can't just shut up and leave well enough alone these days. The social media generation i guess.

 

[LordOfChaos]

It wasn't just that people weren't attracted to her. Many called her ugly.

That's what I'm saying, the only reason this seems to be controversial is that people aren't attracted to her

Which is to me not in itself woke or dei unless the game is also bashing you over the head with that messaging

 

[DenchDeckard]

waiting for the asmongold videos to be posted.

im still buying the game.

 

[VulcanRaven]

What medium of forum are you both on. I spoke about "gamers" consuming games. What part got you both confused?

I don't see how most gamers would get upsed by that fanmade image she shared.

 

[Denton]

Antagonizing and insulting majority of your audience is sure going to work out great. I wish you luck, you go girl!

 

[RoboFu]

Yeah draw more attention to it. That will work.

 

[GymWolf]

Too big to fail implies a bailout from the government. No games will receive a bailout from the govt so the use of the term "too big to fail" is inappropriate for any game.

You know what i mean.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

That's what I'm saying, the only reason this seems to be controversial is that people aren't attracted to her

Which is to me not in itself woke or dei unless the game is also bashing you over the head with that messaging

I think it’s more to do with the context of the current day. For the last decade, Hollywood and game devs have been forcing 0-charisma girlbosses, diversity, and “Strong Female Protagonist” into freaking everything. And you can almost always smell the creators’ far left identity politics oozing out of it.

If this trailer came out in 2006 the reaction would be “huh, that’s an interesting design for a female protagonist”. In 2024 people are sick to death of this kind of character and all the shit that usually comes along with it.

I haven’t written the game off yet but I definitely got the “not this shit again” feeling as soon as I saw the protagonist.

 

[FeralEcho]

What medium of forum are you both on. I spoke about "gamers" consuming games. What part got you both confused?

When you're trying to defend a certain message,rationality and common sense becomes confusing.

 

[LectureMaster]

they're doing it again lmao