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I know, i just can’t resist saying it as a joke now.
twilo99
Member
4 sites ? Makes a huge difference
reinking
Gold Member
I did not expect detail in every inch of the planets or even every planet to be that detailed, but yes, this is my biggest disappointment in what I am hearing from leaks/reviews.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
itsjustJEFF
Member
I knew about not landing and taking off from the planet, I did not know you couldn't even fly from planet to planet. It doesn't take hours to fly through a solar system... Have you not seen Star Trek, Star Wars, No Mans Sky, Elite Dangerous? You get a hyper drive and you blast thru spaces ass at light speed. I was excited about making a ship. Customizing it, upgrading parts. I had hoped that I could upgrade the engines, install a hyper drive so I could hyper drive to the next system. I've played Elite Dangerous, I've played NMS... it's extremely satisfying to go into hyper drive and then come out of it in a whole other system.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Who said anything about not having any load screens at all. I'm talking about the frequency added by space travel etc. Obviously you won't be space traveling in TES VI.
El Pistolero
Banned
87 is a great score. I think that Bethesda is a victim of the Xbox situation, and the fanboys wars surrounding it.
diffusionx
Gold Member
So what's your point? No PlayStation sites are reviewing this lol. The 7/10 reviews I read laid out why they gave the game the score they did.
phaedrus
Member
Mena Sato Kato putting in the work!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Read through the review. It seems objective and fair to me at least.
I also have read a few similar complaints of supposedly randomly generated content being exactly the same in layout and even enemy placement.
The score is great honestly, I have played games that are 82 and were easily more impressive to me than a 90 ranked one. That being said critically compared oblivion was 94, skyrim was 96 and fallout3 was 93 so basically this and fallout 4 were disappointing on that aspect. Fallout4 was pretty underwhelming and while I wont knock it without playing, the limited exploration, walled planets/terrain and barren empty areas make me cautious about starfield.
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bender
What time is it?
Mr Moose
Gold Member
That's OpenCritic, and includes PC.Out of 99.
twilo99
Member
I don't think the Sony sites are as overt as the xbox ones
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Bigger issue to me (well more annoying really) are the planet "boundaries" where they force you to get in the ship and hop a few miles next door to explore the same planet a bit more.
arkhamguy123
Banned
What gives? TOTK and GOWR have 140-150 reviews on metacritic. This has tapped out at like 50?
I know a few UK sites didn’t post theirs yet but a ~100 review difference?
I know a few UK sites didn’t post theirs yet but a ~100 review difference?
twilo99
Member
Exactly, it was never going to match the hype...
7/10 is exactly what I expected it to be
ByWatterson
Member
I mean AAA generally operates in a 72-94 range. Five points out of 22 is a pretty wide gap.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Okay fine, but don't forget Fallout 76 then.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Eh that’s pretty significant when it comes to games above 80
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Lokaum D+
Member
He is on copium right now, he knows that but he is using OC over MC cause that is that self-affirmation he needs.
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yazenov
Member
Xbox needs more than a win given its current situation (dead last, behind Xbox One in sales.)
They needed a home run to change their situation. It's not happening now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sure
inFamous: Second Son Reviews
inFamous: Second Son is an excellent showcase of the PS4's graphical fidelity. But that's not all as critics are raving about its tight and satisfying gameplay that help compliment the gorgeous...
opencritic.com
jm89
Member
Reviews split between Xbox and pc, for example ign review is only on pc version. There is probably more reviews to come aswell.
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We dont talk about that cash grab..
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I think some of the issues will be rectified by mods, like inventory, potentially how open planets up, better procedural generation, etc. It will take time though.
Might play a bit on Xbox or even take a risk with PC Game pass version, but I am going to let it cook for couple of months before buying on Steam.
Besides, not even done with Act 2 on BG3, lol.
Might play a bit on Xbox or even take a risk with PC Game pass version, but I am going to let it cook for couple of months before buying on Steam.
Besides, not even done with Act 2 on BG3, lol.
itsjustJEFF
Member
I can understand that. I think Bethesda's biggest problem is they're just not good at setting expectations properly. They sell an idea really well, but are vague and nonspecific on the details... and it allows for ppls minds to run wild.
Lokaum D+
Member
charging U$30 more in order to play the game earlier is kind of a cash grab maneuver too
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
ToTK and GoW R only reviewed one platform (no one reviewed the PS4 version of Ragnarok).
The reviews are split in 2 platforms here. Opencritic aggregates all of them, MC divides by platform.
GametimeUK
Member
Starfield looks boring as fuck to me. The reviews aren't doing much to sway my mind. I'm interested to see what user reviews say.
Also the actual metascore of a game doesn't really matter to me. I just need to know if a game is worth my time or not. I've seen games score 80 that I think can be argued as being a lot better than some games that score 90+.
Also the actual metascore of a game doesn't really matter to me. I just need to know if a game is worth my time or not. I've seen games score 80 that I think can be argued as being a lot better than some games that score 90+.
you make it sound like they are doing it as a honest mistake.
its their spiel since forever, i mean the man has a "dont believe his lies" meme to his name.
its just that since they are first party now, they have themselves a new crowd of rabid fanboys and defenders.
i could see the game tored apart for this stuff if it were 3rd party. that engine needed to die last decade
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Nah, I think you wish that was true lol, but Bethesda attempted more and succeeded in more. Cyberpunk is out here struggling to meet 2001 PS2 concepts.
I think the score for Starfield right now btw is fair, i predicted 80-85 and was pretty fucking close compared to how many were thinking this would be some 94 type game lol I think because of the jank, bugs etc its hard to get it beyond that, but its score is just imho.
Cyberpunk on the other hand, at launch I struggled to even give a 6.5, because I felt games that I've given 7s to are at least fucking functional and with the features shown, Cyberpunk was not only buggy, it lacked many promised and marketed features and its core design was literally worse then even the worst Far Cry title. Objectively, I just can't over look all those issues, yet bitch about a Far Cry game that has
Ai that can fucking use vehicles
You can fly a plan
Drive a car
Drive a boat etc
It means even the titles i felt were bland, still objectively did more regarding their function then Cyberpunk, shit even Saint's Row reboot does MORE and that really isn't a game I'd be giving a 7 or an 8, so do you see why one might give Cyberpunk a 6.5 or below?
So when the bugs or jank is cleared out, you still have a better game by Bethesda with working functional features and design beyond anything in Cyberpunk.
So I'd argue, my 6.5 is pretty fucking generous considering.
Cyberpunk deserves the 5.5
Starfield deserves the 8.5
At least they put out what they promised and its what they claimed it was and is actually a real RPG, not great value Far Cry with less functions lol
That sadly has become standard practice for devs:/ 76 was a shameless cash grab, a damn disaster with no real merit that they threw out for some cheap mmo cash.
balls of snow
Member
Lol cyberpunk has no loading screens for interior. 9.0 for that alone.
Cheers.
trent_the_gent
Banned
A process more commonly know as "lying".
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol I know right, and no Ai, no trains, no RPG, no factions
I'll take loading screens and being an actual function RPG any day.
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itsjustJEFF
Member
Yes, it was on purpose. I wanted to try and be as "civil" as I could, as you stated... rabid lol
Trust me, I know all the memes and I don't believe a damn thing Todd Howard says.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Microsoft didn't give review copies to everyone and it's not out yet I'm sure on launch day it'll be over 100+ reviews
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I'm expecting this to be a total non issue and I'm surprised how often it's been brought up. I'm not attempting to pick on you or be dismissive when I say this, but this sounds like a hiking simulator.
Surely the things people will want to do is to advance the plot, to go talk to people, have a gunfight, buy some equipment or design a ship. Play a structured game. Not trudge for 15 hours across a generated plant surface.
It seems like people didn't want Fallout in space, they wanted Firewatch in space. Firewatch in space without dialogue or a story.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol Its hard to say in a situation like this.
The only lie regarding the traveling on planets is barely that, you can travel and walk around, clearly with a catch, but it can be done. I do believe they should have been more transparent btw, but even that situation might be a stretch to say its a lie based on what they've said.
Kilau
Member
Insane Metal
Member
Ouch. Also I just read about no vehicles (aside from space ships). That's weird.
ByWatterson
Member
J
Jalucan
, I think the biggest indictment of the game is that it doesn't include some obvious space fantasy pieces (planetary vehicles) BECAUSE there is such a limit on exploration.
It's not that their engine couldn't pull off takeoff and in-atmosphere flight - it's that their relatively small exploration zones would show their seams too fast.
It's not that their engine couldn't pull off takeoff and in-atmosphere flight - it's that their relatively small exploration zones would show their seams too fast.
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