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[Cyberpunkd]

Do you think the design document for this game started with ‘this is a game about space exploration’ or ‘this will be our most ambitious RPG ever, set in space’

How about Todd stops lying then? I’m sorry, he was vague just enough not to outright lie, my bad.

Also, don’t you think for something “set in space” where you can pilot a spaceship yourself they should have done something a bit better?

 

[balls of snow]

Nope. Utilizes Windows Auto HDR settings and Xbox’s built in HDR settings. Seems the game was not made for native HDR. So surprised by this

Yep was wondering where the hell the hdr settings were. Did fallout 4 not have hdr?

 

[jorgejjvr]

Nope. Utilizes Windows Auto HDR settings and Xbox’s built in HDR settings. Seems the game was not made for native HDR. So surprised by this

So I'm stuck messing with my tv settings? Is turning off HDR better?

 

[OuterLimits]

Ok, but that was on a fraction of Bethesda budget and headcount. So as a number cruncher I have to ask - where did that 400mln budget go to?

Don't disagree there. Hello Games did get some funding from Sony, and Sony was certainly promoting the game extensively as well.(with prime spots at E3 and elsewhere) Sean Murray was even appearing on late night talk/comedy shows. But yes, the major blunder overall was Murray himself way overhyping(and yes being deceptive at times) what was in the game.

I agree with you though about the budget disparity.

 

[Helghan]

Now that basically every review is in, it landed on MC 88 and OC 94%, pretty pretty pretty good.

I can’t play until next week unfortunately

 

[twilo99]

I think BG3 is going to make other new RPGs look dated as soon as they come out for at least the next couple of years.

Yes.

I’ve put in only about 40hrs into BG3 and about 2 into Starfield and so far I can tell you that they are both great games that carry a lot of value.

 

[geary]

Now that basically every review is in, it landed on MC 88 and OC 94%, pretty pretty pretty good.

I can’t play until next week unfortunately

If on OC is 94% for Top Critics, and most of the mainstream publication gave the game a 7, how the heck did it reach 94%.

 

[Zathalus]

Xbox fans should be thankful that Starfield got a 87 considering how the review process went:

Yeah, every single exclusive should get a -10 score on Open and Metacritic just to combat platform specific scores. Hence God of War is a 84 game and not 94.

Oh wait no, because that would be retarded.

 

[Nobody_Important]

How about Todd stops lying then?

This. At best the marketing is misleadingly vague. At worst it is deliberately misrepresented in such a way to make the game seem like more than it is to the average consumer that doesn't know any better.


This isn't the customer making a big oopsie and misunderstanding an interview or something. The game was deliberately marketed in such a way that made the game seem MUCH larger and more dynamic than it actually is.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

That’s the thing. I’m sure it’s a great game. Just not the game Todd was promoting. 90% of Peter Molyneux games were great games, just not the games he was describing.

That could be said for so many games from so many developers though, it's their job to push the products. Smoke and mirrors.

 

[Nobody_Important]

That could be said for so many games from so many developers though, it's their job to push the products. Smoke and mirrors.

There is a difference between hyping your product and lying.


They were lying.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

There is a difference between hyping your product and lying.


They were lying.

SE told us FFXVI was an RPG. They lied. The whole industry is practically built on lies going all the way back to "blast processing" and probably even further.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Even when I have auto HDR off on Xbox, HDR10 still applies. Had to turn auto that off and hdr10 off in settings, game looks much better now

 

[supernova8]

Yeah, every single exclusive should get a -10 score on Open and Metacritic just to combat platform specific scores. Hence God of War is a 84 game and not 94.

Oh wait no, because that would be retarded.

Alternatively, just stop including platform specific websites (for Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo exclusives) on Metacritic that are almost guaranteed to give positive scores no matter what.

Also, we shouldn't be getting 5 different scores from IGN, FFS.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Karak

Just watched your review bud, excellent piece of work. This was exactly what I wanted from the game so went and bought it with zero hesitation. Cant wait to get stuck in

Keep up the good work

 

[Whitecrow]

Nope. Utilizes Windows Auto HDR settings and Xbox’s built in HDR settings. Seems the game was not made for native HDR. So surprised by this

If the game have native HDR, it cant use Windows autoHDR. AutoHDR is for SDR games.
It only lacks any kind of tonemapping. But there's an app on MS Store to apply tone mapping on HDR. At least for W11.

 

[GigaBowser]

I murst wait until next week to play not early arccess I will give my review the spirit of gaming

 

[Montauk]

Also, we shouldn't be getting 5 different scores from IGN, FFS.

It’s 5 different writing teams and editors. They are different publications. Your demand is nonsensical.

 

[Thief1987]

If on OC is 94% for Top Critics, and most of the mainstream publication gave the game a 7, how the heck did it reach 94%.

It's 88 on OC, you are engaging with astroturfer.

 

[GooseMan69]

I looked at some no commentary gameplay, and I’m not gonna lie, it looks fun as hell tbh. And I don’t even typically like Bethesda games that much (although I like Fallout 3 far more than Oblivion/Skyrim). If I had an Xbox I would totally buy it.

 

[Crayon]

Yeah, every single exclusive should get a -10 score on Open and Metacritic just to combat platform specific scores. Hence God of War is a 84 game and not 94.

Oh wait no, because that would be retarded.

I was thinking this was a great idea until you said it was retarded!!!! >:0

And dock 5 points for games with really good graphics!!

 

[supernova8]

It’s 5 different writing teams and editors. They are different publications. Your demand is nonsensical.

So.. only one of them is the real IGN?

(Your response is nonsensical so I'm responding in kind, enjoy)

 

[wolffy66]

This is kinda ridiculous honestly

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Ffs, get some self-awareness.

And you get a fucking life.

 

[PendekarRajawali]

Console war is getting worse. If you like the game, buy it, if you don’t then don’t. No need to argue what you don’t own. That applies to consoles as well or buy all of them.

 

[Montauk]

So.. only one of them is the real IGN?

(Your response is nonsensical so I'm responding in kind, enjoy)

Yes, I know that you’re incapable of justifying your demand. You didn’t need to respond for that that to be obvious.

 

[Ribi]

Hopefully this is the game that finally kills procedural generation, it’s lame af in this too

Depends on the amount of assets you make to put in and the tool you use to create via AI. It can look great but it depends on what you throw into the chest so the AI can play with it

 

[Banjo64]

If on OC is 94% for Top Critics, and most of the mainstream publication gave the game a 7, how the heck did it reach 94%.

It’s not a 94% on Open Critic. 94% of critics gave a positive score on Open Critic.

The average score is 88.

I corrected Helghan on this yesterday, but he’s continuing to push this false narrative.

 

[killatopak]

I think I heard somewhere this had NG+? Is there a trigger for it or do you get to choose when to go on a NG+ run?

 

[skit_data]

It’s not a 94% on Open Critic. 94% of critics gave a positive score on Open Critic.

The average score is 88.

I corrected Helghan on this yesterday, but he’s continuing to push this false narrative.

I assume it's bait, it's not like we can't see the critics average with our own eyes

 

[Robb]

Alternatively, just stop including platform specific websites (for Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo exclusives) on Metacritic that are almost guaranteed to give positive scores no matter what.

I don’t think that’d change anything. These games get >100 reviews, of which like 10(?) are from platform specific sites.

If 90 sites give the game a 7/10 and the remaining 10 give a 10/10 you’d still end at a 7.3 average. So it’s hardly a major contributor/problem.

Although if we’re talking about games that get less than, say, 30 reviews it’ll have a major effect. But that seems very rare.

 

[JTCx]

People with Starfield avatars are in shambles lmfao.

 

[Nobody_Important]

SE told us FFXVI was an RPG. They lied. The whole industry is practically built on lies going all the way back to "blast processing" and probably even further.

"Other people lie so its okay if they lie!"


That is not nearly the gotcha you seem to think it is my friend.

 

[twilo99]

 

[Montauk]

God, you guys are pathetic. So desperate.

How DARE he enjoy a PlayStation game. FFS, do you have worms in your brain?

 

[TonyK]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

 

[Nothing1234]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

These are all good games people have lost their minds.

 

[IAmAnAgnostic]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

A bit misleading. Two of those are remakes that got lower scores than the originals for not changing enough or justifying the price tag. But yeah, ignoring the remakes other than Tsushima none of them really lit the world on fire.

Depends what you were expecting from the game, Starfield doesn't seem like a failure to me, but if you expected something groundbreaking then I suppose yes.

 

[Naru]

Good lord, some people in this thread have lost their fucking minds!

 

[Rien]

This is kinda ridiculous honestly

What is?

 

[clarky]

This thread is both the best and worst of GAF all at the same time. Hilarious.

Carry on, please my sides are splitting over here.

 

[Nobody_Important]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

You are trying to wield the Meta score like an bludgeon just as much as those that are intentionally ignoring it.


There is a difference between a failure and a disappointment. Starfield is a disappointment.

 

[PeteBull]

Wtf

Game got pronouns choice when u make ur character, aka woke sickness is hitting hard, ofc u can forget about proper gta alike strippers, it would hurt some uggos feeling 4sure( and im ugly as a sin here myself;p)

 

[Vroadstar]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

The original releases of Uncharted 4 and Last of Us both are 93 and 95 MC, you took the lower-scored remasters to support your narrative.
It's ok if Starfield is 87, it's still good, not some expected, but still good. Maybe when it gets the remastered or directors cut it will be 90+ MC, but no need to lie about the other games.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

Except a lot more is riding on Starfield than any single Sony IP you mention since Microsoft is for years incapable of shipping exclusive games in a timely manner.

Even your picture shows it - NINE games vs. one.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Except a lot more is riding on Starfield than any single Sony IP you mention since Microsoft is for years incapable of shipping exclusive games in a timely manner.

Even your picture shows it - NINE games vs. one.

Xbox are shipping 3 pretty big games this year.

 

[Chechack]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

I think its a failure because many hyped it up as "game of generation" , "game of forever", "game that is going to revolutionize gaming" and other hyped up quotes being thrown around in social media and forums by hardcore bethesda/xbox fan.

 

[Gudji]

For the people that think Starfield as an exclusive is a failure due to the MC score, are these games a failure also? Because I enjoyed them A LOT, so if Starfield is close to them I will be more than happy.

It's all about the expectations, Starfield was supposed to be a goty level game, xbox tlou/TotK/BG3 and it isn't, you're looking too much into the score which is misleading.

The game is riddled with issues and game design decisions that should have stayed in the past, even more when it's current gen only (it does little to nothing to take advantage of the new hardware) .

 

[DenchDeckard]

Loading this up after completing outer worlds...

Holy mother of God!

 

[dotnotbot]

Xbox are shipping 3 pretty big games this year.

Forza and...?