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FearlessBelgian
Member
The lack of human diversity in the game chills me, there's everything but white people...
Alebrije
Member
Its not bad , it could also be 80 and still be good. For a new IP from Bethesda is a good score.
The game is fine the problem for some people is that is not 95 or more...Maybe Starfield 2 will get a better score. Due that people in general is having fun playing the game , I think Bethesda will keep alive this IP like Fallout or Elders Scrolls.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Huh you found 1 example. How am lying? Lol. Where’s ALL these EVERYBODYS that were overhyping!? You can find 1 maybe 4 if you stretch the definition of over overhype enough here.
Don’t get mad because you are exaggerating.
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
Not looking very hard
GetInTheRobot
Banned
I think some of those reviews may be more favorable because it’ll be after the hype. Expectations are out and now you know to go in expecting.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Huh you found 1 example. How am lying? Lol. Where’s ALL these EVERYBODYS that were overhyping!? You can find 1 maybe 4 if you stretch the definition of over overhype enough here.
Don’t get mad because you are exaggerating.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm afraid you're mistaken there.
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Portugeezer
Member
Eurogamer Portugal - 3/5:
Starfield - Promessas não cumpridas
Starfield fica aquém das expectativas e deixa a sensação de que algo se perdeu no espaço. promessas que acabam por não ser cumpridas. Um esboço do potencial.www.eurogamer.pt
El Pistolero
Banned
Huh you found 1 example. How am lying? Lol. Where’s ALL these EVERYBODYS that were overhyping!? You can find 1 maybe 4 if you stretch the definition of over overhype enough here.
Don’t get mad because you are exaggerating.
What? On podcasts, on forums, on YT videogames channels...It was nothing but Starfield for God knows how long. Now I learn that there was no hype behind one of the most hyped titles ever. I certainly need to consult a psychiatrist because of my hallucinations...
phaedrus
Member
Lokaum D+
Member
Baldur's Gate is a niche game, even if it was a 99+ game, Starfield would still be more popular even at 85.
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wouldn’t bother trying to prove anyone how this game was hyped to high heavens by fanboys.What? On podcasts, on forums, on YT videogames channels...It was nothing but Starfield for God knows how long. Now I learn that there was no hype behind one of the most hyped titles ever. I certainly need to consult a psychiatrist because of my hallucinations...
they were either off the forum (and internet) last 2 months or are wilfully obtuse to the point of brain damage, waste of time either way.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Welcome to all the new players
Grab an early suit before it gets patched
Grab an early suit before it gets patched
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's a great suit. And that exploit is a fucking lol moment if there ever was one. Fuckin' Bethesda
Guntherlibby
Member
Just finished the main story.
Very underwhelmed.
The salt is going to be real when the masses get to start playing and finish this game.
Going to be lots of "How the fuck did this get a 88 on Metacritic" posts.
Very underwhelmed.
The salt is going to be real when the masses get to start playing and finish this game.
Going to be lots of "How the fuck did this get a 88 on Metacritic" posts.
Portugeezer
Member
That's some good ol' fashioned game cheesing, but also completely avoidable by the devs.It's a great suit. And that exploit is a fucking lol moment if there ever was one. Fuckin' Bethesda
Romulus
Member
It's funny how that's actually becoming a thing and it's okay because "payback."
Humdinger
Gold Member
No one, including me or the guy you're reacting to, said he expected anything like that. It's just a straw man.
Now you're saying he "has an agenda about shitting on the game"? Come on. No offense, but that's dumb. Not everyone with a criticism has "an agenda to shit on the game." He is well-informed. He covered the game prior to launch. He was skeptical of Bethesda being able to deliver interesting planetary exploration, and he was right about that. He backs his points up thoroughly. Further, he is not bashing the game. In fact, he says that if you stick to the main story and faction quests, you can have a fun 30-40 hours.
Yes, I know. I focused on the topic of exploration, because that's where the conversation started -- with you saying I was wrong about that. But I understand that the game has other flaws -- no space travel, cumbersome menus, fast travel and loading screens that dilute immersion, generic main story, no aliens, limitations imposed by the hoary old engine, etc.
Anyhow, at this point, I've heard enough to make up my mind. I'm going to pass on Starfield. It's just not doing it for me. Maybe I'll check it out again in a couple years, after the modders have fiddled with it. Cheers.
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graywolf323
Member
correct, interesting enough though Eurogamer Portugal’s 6/10 is now showing on OpenCritic but the Top Critic Average didn’t budge at all from 88%
seems a bit peculiar mathematically, you’d think that would have dropped it to 87% at the very least?hopefully this doesn’t get patched before tomorrow evening when I’ll have time to play again
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Humdinger
Gold Member
Now that's what I call immersion.
Romulus
Member
Fortnite is popular too.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Its out on Game Pass already. Played the game for an hour or so dabbling. I quit when it said go land on Kreet. Quick impressions:
Played on Series X.
- Canned tutorials at the beginning of the game (mining, shoot out, fly a ship and space combat). Includes some unskippable cut scenes. But when it comes to normal NPC dialogue, it's like ES and Skyrim where you can press a button to move it along fast
- After the starting cave tutorial, you make your character. Its easy to use and pretty detailed like other Bethesda games
- Has a gambryo feel to the game
- Really good looking detailed graphics
- 30 fps gaming leads to smooth flowing gameplay when going slow or straight ahead. Choppy when panning the camera fast. The game engine feels exactly the same as Skyrim or Fallout 4 on Xbox One/One X. So a lot smoother 30 fps than Skyrim/Fallout 3 on 360, but not as good as any old game boosted on Series X to 60 fps
- Make sure to tune the motion blur on/off and film grain slider to how you want. It'll make a difference
- Inventory menus have a radial dial system. Then it goes to tabs. Not like Fallout or ES games with horizonal tabs right off the bat
- Like all Bethesda RPGs, you can pick up all kinds of random gear and useless stuff like plates
- Very good voice acting
- Lip syncing facing an NPC is hit and miss But when you see an NPC talk side view, the facial/jaw/muscles looks pretty good
- I was a total disaster doing space combat. But it moves very smooth. You got adjustable boosts/deboosts like SW Squadrons for weapons, missiles, shield etc...
Played on Series X.
- Canned tutorials at the beginning of the game (mining, shoot out, fly a ship and space combat). Includes some unskippable cut scenes. But when it comes to normal NPC dialogue, it's like ES and Skyrim where you can press a button to move it along fast
- After the starting cave tutorial, you make your character. Its easy to use and pretty detailed like other Bethesda games
- Has a gambryo feel to the game
- Really good looking detailed graphics
- 30 fps gaming leads to smooth flowing gameplay when going slow or straight ahead. Choppy when panning the camera fast. The game engine feels exactly the same as Skyrim or Fallout 4 on Xbox One/One X. So a lot smoother 30 fps than Skyrim/Fallout 3 on 360, but not as good as any old game boosted on Series X to 60 fps
- Make sure to tune the motion blur on/off and film grain slider to how you want. It'll make a difference
- Inventory menus have a radial dial system. Then it goes to tabs. Not like Fallout or ES games with horizonal tabs right off the bat
- Like all Bethesda RPGs, you can pick up all kinds of random gear and useless stuff like plates
- Very good voice acting
- Lip syncing facing an NPC is hit and miss But when you see an NPC talk side view, the facial/jaw/muscles looks pretty good
- I was a total disaster doing space combat. But it moves very smooth. You got adjustable boosts/deboosts like SW Squadrons for weapons, missiles, shield etc...
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Yeah, games like Spider-Man, Miles Morales, Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West, Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Gran Turismo 7, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Final Fantasy XVI, Death Stranding, etc.. clearly aren’t system sellers either.
Genius comment.
Lokaum D+
Member
Damn, this high steaks questlines, that you have to infiltrate some place and plant something without being spotted are really hard and fun to do.
- Accept Quest
- Teleport to a planet that u never set foot
- Rush into a "prohibited area"
- Board the ship
- Plant the device
- immediately use teleport to return the quest ( there is no need to exit the area or the ship )
There is absolutely nothing to avoid, no security, no cameras and the only guard has a AI of a potato, a lot of quests play like this and ppl still think this is a 10/10 masterpiece.
- Accept Quest
- Teleport to a planet that u never set foot
- Rush into a "prohibited area"
- Board the ship
- Plant the device
- immediately use teleport to return the quest ( there is no need to exit the area or the ship )
There is absolutely nothing to avoid, no security, no cameras and the only guard has a AI of a potato, a lot of quests play like this and ppl still think this is a 10/10 masterpiece.
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NikuNashi
Member
Calm down and show us where Phil touched you on the doll.
It is not peculiar. depends what the actual current score is if it included decimalscorrect, interesting enough though Eurogamer Portugal’s 6/10 is now showing on OpenCritic but the Top Critic Average didn’t budge at all from 88%
106 review x 88 = 9328
+ 60 for new review = 9388 / 107 reviews = 87.74. The new 6/10 review only reduces the average by 0.26 based on the number of reviews, so if the previous score is 77.76 or higher it wouldn't get rounded down to 77 from the one additional lower review.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yes, but not all 106 reviews would be top critics and, therefore, in the aggregate OC, right?
So the average would be lower. I haven't counted the number of TC reviews, but I suspect they would be ~50%? So more like 52-53 reviews. Also, we don't know but OC may have a weightage system working at the backend -- which is perhaps why the scores haven't budged yet.
foamdino
Member
Downloading now - my boy is set up to play it *all day* - he loved Skyrim and I expect him to enjoy this. A game can be fun, not for everyone and obviously flawed all at the same time. The people who care deeply about review scores are either hyping games up or pushing back against the hype.
drganon
Member
Huh you found 1 example. How am lying? Lol. Where’s ALL these EVERYBODYS that were overhyping!? You can find 1 maybe 4 if you stretch the definition of over overhype enough here.
Don’t get mad because you are exaggerating.
peish
Member
how does the NG+ works? i like to know before starting the game tonight. the cock teasers were teasing we need to rush through the first playthrough to enjoy the real meat of SF?
Revolutionary
Member
Nah, there's no need to rush through the story for NG+. There are a few neat things about it but I would recommend just to play normally.
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peish
Member
so it's like any other NG+ around? you start with all the experience and gears and unlocked higher difficulty?
no additional changes to the end game storyline?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
This is a pretty good review / analysis of the game and its weaknesses with actual examples that I haven't seen others talk about.
For example, he mentions:
For example, he mentions:
- A very cool side questline where the player exposes a major corruption scandal and personnel in an authoritative position. But after doing everything, nothing changes. The personnel stays in that position, the world doesn't react to whatever you did, and everything in the world remains the same.
- He tried to smuggle contraband into a city by parking his ship (with the contraband) far away from the city and finding another ship that could be cleared by security. He thought it'd be a creative way to get past. But the contraband automatically transfers to the new ship, and the security forces blast him. He said there is not enough freedom in the game.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Starefield
Fast travel puts you outside a house so you have another loading screen.
bruh what the actual fuck? lol
I was hype to jump in tonight and do a deep session, but might just continue BG3 and start Starfield over the weekend or something.
Hope everyone is having fun with its officially release! (I'm still waiting for that fucking Starfield beanie to arrive)
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TonyK
Member
I understand those examples, but for me the problem is that people are reviewing the game for the things they want the game does, not for the actual game. It's like if I review The Last of Us (my favourite game) badly because I can't change clothes, is not open world, I can't command Ellie, I can't grab the guns of the corpses, etc, etc...
So, the question is, can you do those things in Horizon Forbidden West, Baldur's Gate 3? In Cyberpunk? Because the actual backslash to Starfield reminds me to the backslash to Cyberpunk because it didn't do thinks that were possible in GTA, so people expected all the stuff that Cyberpunk did plus all the stuff that GTA did. Now, I think it's the same scenario: people made an imaginary vision of the game before release, and when they play it, if it doesn't accommodate to that preestablished idea, it's a deception.
In my case, as my hype was very low because I know how Bethesda games are, now I'm amazed for the quality and scope of the game. It's a lot more than what I expected it will be. So, in resume, I think even those reviews so complete with examples are still subjective, as all reviews are, including mine, as it is a matter of perspective.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
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Gudji
Member
Easy allies gave it 8/10.
Latest.
Metro has published something but has no score think it will come later.
"In terms of both story and gameplay Starfield is disappointingly shallow, with lots going on but very little of it being of any substance."
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vaibhavpisal
Member
It's a Bethesda game. Nothing is scripted in those. It's mostly simulated. If that person isn't fired, that's cause simulation doesn't know concept of firing a corrupt person. Even if you kill that person, it won't hire a new person to take their place.
RPG elements in these games mostly depend on how well you understand simulation, what stuff you can do in it. It's pretty demanding on the player.
Once you do, it offers unparalleled freedom.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But games like TLOU or GOW are relatively linear story-driven action games. They are not built around freedom, choices, and exploration. TLOU/Starfield belong to two different categories of games.
Starfield (or Bethesda games) are sandbox RPG games that with exploration, choices, and freedom at their core. They do not have high-quality stories or acting or motion capture like TLOU or God of War games.
Also, Bethesda themselves market Starfield as a game that offers unparalleled freedom.
Based on that, I think it is very reasonable to expect that level of freedom and exploration from a Bethesda game. The questline complaint he has is especially valid. Why go through the entire questline when it has 0 effects other than giving you some XP? It just becomes shallow and meaningless at some point.
vaibhavpisal
Member
But games like TLOU or GOW are relatively linear story-driven action games. They are not built around freedom, choices, and exploration. TLOU/Starfield belong to two different categories of games.
Starfield (or Bethesda games) are sandbox RPG games that with exploration, choices, and freedom at their core. They do not have high-quality stories or acting or motion capture like TLOU or God of War games.
Also, Bethesda themselves market Starfield as a game that offers unparalleled freedom.
Based on that, I think it is very reasonable to expect that level of freedom and exploration from a Bethesda game. The questline complaint he has is especially valid. Why go through the entire questline when it has 0 effects other than giving you some XP? It just becomes shallow and meaningless at some point.
I like that you conveniently sidestepped my post just above you that addresses this concern.
jm89
Member
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Mr Moose
Gold Member
This is a good one:
There's also a 41 page thread with mixed results.
The hype around Starfield is massive, and growing.
The last game I can remember that had this type of hype leading up to its release was Red Dead Redemption 2. It's trending on twitter every day. Forums and social media are all about Starfield, and MS hasn't advertised jack shit for it. I haven't really been a Bethesda guy, but I am a space...
Gudji
Member
Damn missed that line.From the same article
They are classed as a top critic on opencritic aswell.
TonyK
Member
It depends what it means "freedom" for you as a player, because in my case it's the game with more freedom I played in a lot time. For example, Cyberpunk 2077 (a game I played twice) feels like a linear game in comparison. I think what you are referring is that freedom of choice doesn't have an impact in the game world, and I must agree on that, it doesn't have real impact. But I think that's something it happens in all the games. It would be incredibly difficult and demanding to do it properly. I still remember the final choices of Mass Effect 3But games like TLOU or GOW are relatively linear story-driven action games. They are not built around freedom, choices, and exploration. TLOU/Starfield belong to two different categories of games.
Starfield (or Bethesda games) are sandbox RPG games that with exploration, choices, and freedom at their core. They do not have high-quality stories or acting or motion capture like TLOU or God of War games.
Also, Bethesda themselves market Starfield as a game that offers unparalleled freedom.
Based on that, I think it is very reasonable to expect that level of freedom and exploration from a Bethesda game. The questline complaint he has is especially valid. Why go through the entire questline when it has 0 effects other than giving you some XP? It just becomes shallow and meaningless at some point.