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Target not selling physical Xbox games anymore?

I’ve observed similar in the UK

GAME used to have a huge wall of Xbox games, now it’s relegated to a single rack in the back corner.

Smyths Toy Superstore it’s difficult to find Xbox stuff now.

In Spain last summer I didn’t see anything Xbox related in shops whatsoever apart from a few Xbox 360 games in a retro section.

You lose your retail presence and a large chunk of the market start to forget that you exist.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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This is either a misunderstanding on your part, or revisionist history. I'm not sure which, so let me clarify.

Certainly there are people who love their physical media and disparage digital delivery at every opportunity because they (correctly) see it as a threat to physical media. I don't care about physical media at all, but I sympathize with those who do. This has been and always will be a concern for some portion of the player base.

But the real point where people were "complaining about digital games" was the original plan for the Xbox One. Microsoft's original plan was not a digital delivery system like Steam, and what the console storefronts have now. The Steam model of selling games digitally via a one-time-use key that binds a license to a users account actually existed On Xbox before the Xbox One. Microsoft and Sony started allowing full games to be purchased from their stores at the tail end of the PS3 and 360 generation. I was very active on multiple gaming forums and listening to gaming podcasts/YouTube at that time. All I saw were neutral or positive comments about more choice and options .

What Microsoft tried to do with the Xbox One was different. They wanted to sell you a disc that had a key. You would buy the game disc and enter the key while connected to the online service so it could bind that key to your account. That would be fine if it ended there. You could go offline because your local console knows that your account has a license to play the game as confirmed by the ecosystem's server. This is what we have with the current digital storefronts on all ecosystems.

The part that ruined Xbox One was they wanted to give Game Stop (and other used game retailers) a system for unbinding that key from your account so they could resell the disc. Why is that a problem for the user? If Microsoft can't be sure that I haven't sold the disc for the game I'm trying to play, and therefore I no longer have the key bound to my account, then they have to do regular check-ins with an authentication server to verify all the keys on my console are still valid. If they didn't, I could buy a disc, install the game and bind the key to my account while my console is online, then go offline, go sell the disc to Game Stop where they unbind that key from my account. I could then go home and keep playing the game with my console offline, even though I no longer have the key bound to my account. Just requiring the disc to be in the drive would leave the door open for piracy if/when people figured out how to duplicate those discs.

This is where the idea of a mandatory online check-in every 24 hours came into play. With the scenario above, if I sold the disc to Game Stop and they unbound the key from my account, I would only be able to play the game without having a valid key for less than 24 hours. Then the console would connect to the server, see that I don't have that key anymore, and the next time I try to boot that game I get a message telling me I don't have a valid license to play it. Presumably I would then be prompted to buy a new key from the digital store, at which point my ownership of that game would shift to a strictly digital license like we have now.

The idea that I should have to tolerate a mandatory daily check-in with the server just so Microsoft could help keep Game Stop in business was the giant "fuck you" moment so many of us had towards the Xbox brand. That also means I have to rely on Microsoft having the authentication servers up 100% of the time so I don't get stuck in a situation where I just can't play my games at all, because their infrastructure was down. At that time, we had seen multiple events where Azure had gone down for days at a time leaving their customers non-operational.

So yes, some people do complain about digital because they just like physical media better. But the Xbox One was a very special case where they had a different plan for "digital" than every other digital storefront. It was a terrible plan and I still can't believe the management team at Xbox at that time thought it would fly.
Back then, the laundry list of reasons covered Xbox and PS gamers. Thats why Sony did that cheeky "heres how you lend a friend a disc" YT clip. MS never even went through with the mandatory online check by the time the system launched and both companies went full steam ahead focusing on digital while the PS3/360 gen they barely did (as you said they sold full games online at the end of the era).

All game forums back then had people not liking digital..... you cant trade it back in, cant borrow it, what if my internet goes down, downloading a game takes forever, you dont own the game (TOS), cant buy used copies etc....

So by the time both systems launched, it was a focus on digital of equal delivery and no 24H check ins. And gamers shifted. An all digital One S came out and PS5 has both disc and digital models. Digital sales are probably around 75%+ by now and even though discs can get discounted fast, people still prefer buying digital. Prices online and disc can get discounted great now, but way back digital prices on console were lousy as you didnt really get the hotter pricing like now. But people still migrated to digital.

All the uproar back then on social media and forums changed. The only people now who really care about discs are collectors or people who want to play offline if the game needs constant online connection.
 
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How did this turn into a Xbox(only) stuff not on shelves, to a physical is dying thread? 😄

I mean don't get me wrong. Physical is dying, but let's not lose focus here...lol
 
There was a thread on this recently where I said the only place that seems to care about physical games anymore is Target but even they are going downhill. Target and Walmart are ghost towns here in every section except Switch. Best Buy has been abysmal for years. Xbox does seem to be the lower stock on games out of the two trash sections though.

Physical is just on the way out. Reminds me of cassette and DVD.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
There was a thread on this recently where I said the only place that seems to care about physical games anymore is Target but even they are going downhill. Target and Walmart are ghost towns here in every section except Switch. Best Buy has been abysmal for years. Xbox does seem to be the lower stock on games out of the two trash sections though.

Physical is just on the way out. Reminds me of cassette and DVD.
Not just physical games but physical shopping as a whole.

Years back, they converted the Best Buy near me to this ugly pseudo half store/half internet pick up store where they cornered off half the store like a fulfillment centre with their own dedicated pick up desk. This desk had more workers than the standard check out counter.
 

Brucey

Member
Not just physical games but physical shopping as a whole.

Years back, they converted the Best Buy near me to this ugly pseudo half store/half internet pick up store where they cornered off half the store like a fulfillment centre with their own dedicated pick up desk. This desk had more workers than the standard check out counter.
That's so they can offer same day delivery so the slackers don't even have to sober up enough to drive to best buy.
 

Brucey

Member
Told you guys years ago, people stopped buying physical Xbox games when game pass started. Our store went from ~100 copies of big Xbox games between 3 stores to currently 5-10 between 4 stores.
Seems like gamepass just hastened death of both physical and digital game sales for Xbox. And with physical xbox game sales declining, why would stores continue to allocate shelf space to them when it could be used for PS or Switch games instead?
 
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