SporeCrawler
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The job chances will be good if she has both american and british bar admission though.. Especially in corporate law
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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The job chances will be good if she has both american and british bar admission though.. Especially in corporate law
She is still a student, will graduate next year. I finish my PhD in 2019. She will have work exp by then and I think 6 months of study for a better life would be worth it.
Where's the fun if you know everything in advance though. #YOLO
ReplacementPelican
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You can prove anything with facts. I heard that Cows need nappies and I saw a Polish bloke down my road and he didn't say 'hello' to me. This country has changed. I hate it.
I mean, of course they were right. I feel like financial institutions will forever be treated like morons for not predicting the 2007 financial crisis.
nature boy
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It was more going back to the drachma.
I find it bizzarre how the government has so much power over newspapers (being able to gag them) + being the closest to a Big Brother society yet they let this shit pass. It's really disgraceful.
Pretty much.
If you don't believe in the validity of government protecting the people from reactionary mob rule, then what is the role of government? Is direct democracy the only form you believe in? Is no government what you believe in? Let's not wade in sophistry about democratic virtue if all you care about is a vote, any vote, and not at all about the lives destroyed and the generational suffering introduced. There's nothing virtuous about letting the mob eat each other.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
MatrixMan.EXE
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For real. I'm literally dumbfounded. It just sounds so defeatist.
On another note, by word of Sky, looks like Osborne is considering to strike a deal whereby he backs Johnson's PM bid while simultaneously keeping his job. Lawl. This guy. And nothing he will say tomorrow before the markets open will quell the storm. Nothing.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Yup, the press' constant bleating about any regulation being bad doesn't hold up when you look at TV journalism. Just as sharp and inquisitive as what's on print, but with much less in the way of dubious bullshit and outright lies.
Oh I'm not saying it's not worth it, I was just saying that you need to make sure she knows exactly how long it will take etc.
I agree that once the study is done being admitted to both can be seen as a huge plus.
My point was more to make sure you don't undersell the effort it might take because that can cause resentment.
As long as you plan it out well (do t forget to calculate the university fees etc) and you guys will do just fine!
Sorry if I came across negative, it wasn't my intention, I just prefer to be blunt with these things so that people stay focused and plan accordingly.
I've had Freinds who rushed and got screwed by stuff like this so I always worry, my bad lol.
Freedom of movement is not something the EU will ever compromise on.
If Osbourne stays on as chancellor then it probably means a deal has been done to not activate article 50. Osbourne is owned by the city and believed from day 1 the referendum shouldn't have been held. I cannot see him staying on unless an agreement has been done.
I dunno, it was based on lies, you would get a worse deal anyway. Suck it up. Some idiot nutcases of course but they always will be and we do have police if they dare.
Well off to sleep now.
Expecting the pound to shed some more pounds tomorrow. Maybe those who kept saying "see it was initial hock but now it's recovering already" will get some sense.
Expecting the pound to shed some more pounds tomorrow. Maybe those who kept saying "see it was initial hock but now it's recovering already" will get some sense.
Yea I understand thanks.
I hope that you're right. Even if Osbourne's budgets have been terrible I'd rather him be doing them if it meant we won't activate Article 50.
Bobnob
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Won't this just lead to more division and uproar,I'm a outer and don't see this as being a good stance at all.
Source on that? Not seeing anything on the front page and, like I said above, it's a ray of hope that would be quite nice to see.
Last year i voted No because it seemed that it would take us out of E.U. Most of my friends, same age as mine 45, voted because they were exhausted of the measures proposed by EU.
And after the referendum, our government turned No to Yes and brought harsh and unfairly punitive new measures coming from E.U., that do not help at all.
I really can't say i am happy for E.U. nor support it and i am safe to say that many people think as i do.
But Greece is a different loony case than Britain.
This would be the best decision for all.
It'd probably destroy the Tory party but really, we and themselves all know that is legions better than destroying the country, the economy, our 'United' Kingdom by losing Ireland and Scotland and heading into uncharted territory where we may lose our best businesses, our place in the EU for an awful Norway like deal and the general fact nobody has a clue what the fuck to do.
This is the decision, and I hope the government takes it. Own up - you made a mistake, but the bigger mistake is going through with this at all.
Peter Ian Staker
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Nobody gives two shits about the European ideal here anymore besides maybe some really rich people.The "gunboat politics" of last year didn't help.
People just tolerate the EU at the moment because EU subsides are the last lifeline left for the economy and also because the process needed to leave would be way to chaotic. Also a lot of people are looking to abandon ship and an EU passport helps.
Pretty much the same for me and my age group(20somethings) feels the same.
The division has already happened, it will get so much worse if we exited. The uproar if we didn't exit would only be temporary, and that's a good price to pay for bouncing back from the most idiotic decision of a lifetime.
To sit for an American bar exam, she will need to take at least a year (for a LLM degree) of law school, and some US states require 3 years (for a JD degree). Law school is not cheap in the US--$40,000 to $60,000 per year.
MatrixMan.EXE
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They were looking at the headlines for tomorrow's papers and that was one of the top stories. Can't remember which publication, sorry.
The referendum just showed that lying doesn't matter. Almost all the Leave claims were debunked and challenged before the vote and it didn't make a difference. They said the public is tired of experts.
If Boris (or whoever is PM) doesn't enact article 50 in a reasonable amount of time they will done politically. The masses will run to a party that will keep their promises. The referendum was won by people who felt they have been ignored by the political class, ignoring them again will have severe consequences.
Principate
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Your talking about 17 million people majority older staunch Tory voters, A sizeable amount also voted under that specific reason after being warned numerous times that this would be the result. The current downturn is no real shock, Remain pounded this the entire time, do you really think they'll go oh immigration is fine after voting knowing that'd potential problem. Even if a million or two switch sides, it'lll still hurt the tories immensely. That's why they're largely silent. You can't wake the beast and then blag your way through it.. They'll turn to the party that'll most like do what they want.
More Fun To Compute
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You think the EU didn't know about the falsified data when they set up the Euro?
The EU doesn't have the power to "kick Greece out" of the Union. Besides why would that even be contemplated? Just because a member is badly run doesn't mean we should just drop the idea of solidarity and turf them out. Is the US contemplating casting adrift Puerto Rico any time soon? All members of the EU are valued and it is important they all stay. That's why Britain leaving now is so devastating.
The Commission is likely to take the view that the declaration given in the referendum was the notice to quit. They're not fucking about like Britain, they just want to get on with things now.
This is why the Tories at least need to explain that none of their issues will be solved if we were to leave, which is an absolute fact. They have seen what will happen to the economy first hand, there's no hiding behind paranoia over experts now. Showing to them that leaving the EU would not only not get what they want but ruin your children and grandchildrens future in the process would really help quell a UKIP resurgence.
As for lies being debunked (for the poster above you, on mobile) that was before the vote when emotions were everything. Now Farage himself has admitted to lies more lies won't work again.
Sorry, but I've got go to bed. I'll try and reply in the morning (or afternoon)
Maybe? But that's getting into conspiracy theory territory...
If we start assuming this then we may as well assume all sorts of things, like tighter immigration control and more money for the NHS when out of the EU, for example.
Nevertheless kicking Greece out would have been a dumb idea either way.
More Fun To Compute
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Well if they didn't know they could of asked me because I heard about it and I just watched TV.
Coriolanus
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First: the EU was perfectly aware that the data was false.
Second: the EU has no mechanism for kicking members out.
Third: almost the totality of the bailout money spent on Greece is redirected to foreign banks.
Fourth: the austerity measures that made the problem even worse and were adopted by previous greek governments were developed by the troika
the EU should've just done what the FMI said it should do. Instead it opted to kick the can down the road. Again.
EdwardTeach
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Fairly massive, as she would have to retrain entirety.
Bobnob
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The free movement thing is becoming a big factor right across the EU your crazy if you think nothing will be done about it Europe wide.Britain just made all the more clearer.
Obviously, they never should have let them in after all since they actually didn't qualify.
And it was "kicking out" because of all their moaning and groaning and blaming someone else for their own fault. The question whether this is possible or not was never raised.
Anyway, enough of that.
jellies_two
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That is exactly right, Rich EU states particularly France and Germany extended billions through their *private* banking institutions and bailing out Greece was basically bailing out their own financial institutions under the guise of helping the Greek people stave off default.
After reading that lawyer's article, a referendum won't actually be classed as a 'decision' nor 'notification' - therefore the EU won't accept it as such, unless it bends its own rules.
Palculator
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If I were to rank politicians by how likely it would be that they would at least try to tackle the income inequality in this country, Boris would be pretty damn far down the list.
Bobnob
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They let Greece in
Yes, the people in the UK will still enjoy their turkey.
Though not as much as their chicken.
shinra-bansho
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You're probably going to have to elaborate more than a word that could be a country or could be dinner.
Actually a pretty good reenactment of the leave campaign
Only thing left is to concede that they have won, make them admins and ban the juniors.
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