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[SporeCrawler]

Nearly two-thirds (64%) of IoD members think the result is negative for their business, against 23% who think it is positive (only 9% say it makes no difference)
A third (32%) say hiring will continue at the same pace, but a quarter (24%) will put a freeze on recruitment, and 5% will make redundancies
1 in 5 (22%) are considering moving some of their operations outside of the UK; only 1% say they will bring operations back
IoD Director General says: “we will not lose our faith in the ability of British firms to overcome these obstacles“

http://www.iod.com/influencing/press-office/press-releases/first-signs-brexit-will-hit-jobs

 

[Auctopus]

For the aggressive/racist Leave voters, it will take BJ, Gove and other key Leave players to come forward and admit that they were wrong/possibly lied to not have riots on their hands when/if we don't leave in the end.

 

[nature boy]

People, stop with Project Fear! Stop quoting the Reaminstream media!

Spoiler

/s

 

[nOoblet16]

Not sure if posted - this thread is moving quite fast.

Brexit loophole? MPs must still vote in order for Britain to leave the EU, top lawyers say



Wiki for Geoffrey Robertston QC.

Ofcourse, it's what representative democracy is and that's why a referendum is not legally binding but only advisory, because the parliament has to still pass it. People won't understand this though as they will think they voted and not going with it is against democracy.

But the question is who will vote against their own constituency and commit political suicide ? Considering the votes are made public and everyone gets to know who voted what the people will be out with pitchforks when they Mir beloved Tab posts an article about how their NO voted against their people's will.

 

[Zelias]

Health? Have you seen the state of the health service, my local gp relays between two parts of my town,it takes almost two weeks to get a appointment.

My kid struggled to get a place at the local "academy" the kid upstairs didn't get a place and now as to make a bus journey.

The family upstairs 2 working adults, 4 kids all in a crammed two bedroom flat,the council have refused to rehouse them.

Yes these issues maybe down to our government being arseholes so what should we do ?allow bad migration to carry on (the numbers are only going one way folks) all the while our government continues to be a mess with no investment communitys in taking money from the most effected poor.

Open boarders are becoming a problem right across the EU and it is giving rise to the far right everywhere.

If you think leaving the EU will solve the problems you describe, I fear you're in for a nasty shock.

 

[Silent Chief]

They don't activate it. That is not how this works. The best they can do is say "you activated this through the referendum". Our response would be "fuck off no lol", and things would really hit the shitter because there would be a total breakdown in negotiation. That is really not in the EUs interests - they want a quick break, but most of all they want a clean break lacking in instability.

The wait favors Scottish independence. They'll be able to negotiate the UK leaving while Scotland remains instead of having to do one after the other.

Also, the EU can dictate the future terms without having to wait for the UK to join the table.
That will stabilizes the EU market and large companies will start moving jobs out.

 

[guit3457]

You guys talk about banks but there are so many companies suffering right now. IAG, the owner of British Airways, Iberia, Aerr Lingus, Vueling is down almost 40% since Brexit.

 

[danowat]

People on Radio 2 calling for Farage to lead the country, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.

I tell you what, if we have a GE, I have a feeling that UKIP might actually get in.........

 

[oti]

You guys talk about banks but there are so many companies suffering right now. IAG, the owner of British Airways, Iberia, Aerr Lingus, Vueling is down almost 40% since Brexit.

Banks suffer = Companies suffer = People suffer

 

[Norwegian_Imposter]

Well then the plot thickens. http://gu.com/p/4mmxg/fb

 

[Xando]

You guys talk about banks but there are so many companies suffering right now. IAG, the owner of British Airways, Iberia, Aerr Lingus, Vueling is down almost 40% since Brexit.

The problem is that if bigger Banks like RBS or Barclay tank = the whole economy tanks

 

[Clear]

The british government themselves saw the outcome of that referendum as legally binding. At least that was four months ago.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ile/503908/54538_EU_Series_No2_Accessible.pdf

"Democratic duty" is not legally binding, especially if the Government that made that guarantee is replaced. Which is now basically a certainty.

This is NOT what this is about. The EU is only trying to argue like that, because the UK said that it's gonna accept whatever the result of the referendum is.

Actually I think its more a case of the EU leadership feeling cornered by their own constitutional laws. They can rattle their sabres as much as they like, but there is no way for them to forcibly trigger article 50 (the only legal instrument for seceding from the EU). Like I said, its a pissing-contest.

 

[Liljagare]

Right now it feels like Britain just pulled the plug, on itself.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Seems like Vote Leave want people to forget their campaign now too...

 

[ferrasvansen]

Economic black hole number 1.....

http://news.sky.com/story/1718202/obr-to-slash-forecast-for-rescued-bank-stakes

tougher austerity beckons.

 

[danowat]

The problem is that if bigger Banks like RBS or Barclay tank = the whole economy tanks

Could we do an "Iceland" and come out of economic calamity in a better state?

 

[Palculator]

Well then the plot thickens. http://gu.com/p/4mmxg/fb

Yup, that's what most discussions about it I've seen here [Germany] were concluding too, because it would be utterly pointless to start negotiations when the cause behind them isn't even remotely certain.

 

[oti]

Well then the plot thickens. http://gu.com/p/4mmxg/fb

How is that surprising. Like, at all?

 

[jelly]

People on Radio 2 calling for Farage to lead the country, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.

I tell you what, if we have a GE, I have a feeling that UKIP might actually get in.........

I dunno. They got loads of votes last time but hardly any seats. Don't see that changing much. I think much of it depends on parties not ignoring the issues in these areas and communicate it properly so we don't just have life still sucks and immigrants, Tories screwed us, lets all vote UKIP. I seriously doubt old Tory voters will jump to that party.

 

[8bit]

We do have a lot of rangers fans here

Nuking Ibrox would do a lot of good.

 

[Hasney]

Could we do an "Iceland" and come out of economic calamity in a better state?

Unlikely. They did that by continuing to invest in the country while sorting it out and got those big companies that owed tax to pay it, while increasing tax in general. Unless we have a massive change in government it's not happening.

 

[Xando]

Could we do an "Iceland" and come out of economic calamity in a better state?

Don't think so. Britain is too dependant on financial services.

@ReutersJamie
Shares in RBS, the bank still more than 70%-owned by UK taxpayer, down 23% today close to crisis-level lows. Down nearly 40% since Friday.

https://twitter.com/ReutersJamie/status/747393533955407872?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Insane loss of capital for the taxpayer

 

[Auctopus]

Could we do an "Iceland" and come out of economic calamity in a better state?

People would be better off to stop comparing us to countries like Iceland and Norway which are vastly different to us in terms of population, infrastructure and trading.

 

[jakonovski]

Perhaps the UK will indeed stonewall the EU's questions about article 50, in order to create a deadlock and avoid leaving. In that case I expect the EU and indeed the market to start moving everything important out of the UK.

 

[jelly]

Economic black hole number 1.....

http://news.sky.com/story/1718202/obr-to-slash-forecast-for-rescued-bank-stakes

tougher austerity beckons.

10 billion EU money will fill some of that right, but then it runs out, who will pay for this, oh.....

It begins.

 

[Samarqand]

Young People (Aged 18-24) only 26% voted to remain in the EU. Among voters in the 65-and-over 39% voted to remain in EU.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Do you guys think leave would win another referendum if held tomorrow? Now that they've had a taste of the disastrous consequences?

 

[danowat]

People would be better off to stop comparing us to countries like Iceland and Norway which are vastly different to us in terms of population, infrastructure and trading.

So then, compare us to who?

We are in uncharted waters, it's not unknown to try and look to other parties to try and make sense of the whole mess.

 

[*Splinter]

Well then the plot thickens. http://gu.com/p/4mmxg/fb

This doesn't seem to line up with anything Merkel has been saying though? Sure the serious negotiations about the fine details won't have started yet, but it's silly to think that some level of plans aren't already being made.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

Not sure if posted - this thread is moving quite fast.

Brexit loophole? MPs must still vote in order for Britain to leave the EU, top lawyers say



Wiki for Geoffrey Robertston QC.

If that's the case and Labour, SNP and Lib Dems voted against the repeal you would still need 34 Tories to vote against it. Oh. Make that 35. Corbyn would vote for it.

 

[nOoblet16]

Could we do an "Iceland" and come out of economic calamity in a better state?

Don't think so, but we could defeat them today.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Eu and merkel are not fucking around. This getting nastier by the day. Good luck British GAF

 

[hohoXD123]

Young People (Aged 18-24) only 26% voted to remain in the EU. Among voters in the 65-and-over 39% voted to remain in EU.

Eh, where is this dubious figure from? Is this taking voter turnout into account and comparing it to the total eligible to vote?

 

[Orniletter]

The more I think about the referendum, the more it feels like this was supposed to end as one of those "and against all odds, sanity and common sense won !"-stories.

Like, for example, how the kuban crisis didn't end in total nuclear destruction, because surely nobody would be this stupid. You know what I mean.

Except this time common sense and sanity lost.

I was angry the last couple of days, but I genuinely feel for the 48% who have to suffer because their fellow countrymen and women were just too dumb to understand what they were voting for.

 

[Thornton Reed]

Do you guys think leave would win another referendum if held tomorrow? Now that they've had a taste of the disastrous consequences?

i think they would

 

[Hasney]

Don't think so, but we could defeat them today.

Danny Murphy has said we'd win, so if we do, I'd like him to become PM and lead us through this.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

Just cancel the fucking Brexit already. Even the people who was pushing for it don't believe is a good idea anymore.

 

[Auctopus]

Do you guys think leave would win another referendum if held tomorrow? Now that they've had a taste of the disastrous consequences?

Part of me doesn't think so and the fallout would be even worse.

 

[nOoblet16]

So then, compare us to who?

We are in uncharted waters, it's not unknown to try and look to other parties to try and make sense of the whole mess.

No one because the UK was unique and what made it a power relied a lot on the EU.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I'm hearing that Kezia Dugdale has just released a statement?

EDIT:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl8zwTtWIAAuF3C.jpg:large

 

[BossDarkseid]

Apparently a Spanish resturant in Honor Oak got bricked overnight.

Could always be something else but given the current climate. I mean it's a spanish resturant. It's not like they stole anyone's jobs, they created some >_>

 

[Daffy Duck]

Eu and merkel are not fucking around. This getting nastier by the day. Good luck British GAF

They will be seriously pissed off with us and will certainly use this to make a statement to anyone else thinking of leaving.

 

[diaspora]

I mean, they could just:

 

[Chittagong]

Saw this on my Facebook, looks about right

 

[Slime]

surely the illuminati, or bilderberg meeting schemers, or the freemasons wouldn't let brexit fuck up UK's elite, any NWO expert confirm?

The lizard people have already contacted Zeta Reticuli. Our (flat) earth is doomed.

 

[bryanee]

What a shit show.

 

[TheCrackInTime]

The british government themselves saw the outcome of that referendum as legally binding. At least that was four months ago.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ile/503908/54538_EU_Series_No2_Accessible.pdf

Strictly speaking, whether they considered it binding or not doesn't matter. Parliament specifically did not include a provision to make the result of this referendum legally binding. In contrast to this, the AV referendum in 2011 DID include such a provision.

Now that's not to say I think that the Government will not treat the referendum as binding, but to claim that it is would be misleading.

 

[Jimbob Smalls]

You guys talk about banks but there are so many companies suffering right now. IAG, the owner of British Airways, Iberia, Aerr Lingus, Vueling is down almost 40% since Brexit.

Boeing has just confirmed London as its new Headquarters. Expect market fluctuations, including large ones everytime a politician opens their mouth over the next few weeks.

 

[GamerMax73]

As this been discussed yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36637232

I mean, ouch! They really are pushing hard for article 50. I thought it was diplomatic common sense to reach out behind closed doors and thrash out some common broad strokes before entering formal negotiations.

 

[Pixieking]

If that's the case and Labour, SNP and Lib Dems voted against the repeal you would still need 34 Tories to vote against it. Oh. Make that 35. Corbyn would vote for it.

Heh... I get the feeling "Did you vote Leave?" Could be the UK's "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?"

(Okay, slight exaggeration, but still...)