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Ubisoft suing SomethingAwful for fake porno image of Jade Raymond on its forums
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UnholySpectacle
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I think Ether is joking people.
HOW DARE YOU UPSET JADE. JADE IS MY LIFE. I LOVE HER. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE IN THE INDUSTRY SO WHAT IF SHE IS A WOMAN?????????????
HAVE YOU EVER MADE LOVE TO A WOMAN SUCH AS JADE????? IT WOUL<D BE MAGICAL. I WILL LIGHT CANDLES. COOK DINNER. BUY SPECIAL WINE. ALL FOR YOU JADE.
JADE CAN YOU PLEASE PUT A SPECIAL EASTER EGG IN ASSSASSINS CREDD FOR ME. IT CAN SAY "I LOVE YOU PHARMACY". YES. YES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING JADE. I LOVE YOU DEAREST.
YOU ARE GOOD AT YOUR JOB. IGNORE THESE CYBER BULLIES ON SOMETHINGAWFUL AND NEOGAF. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. TYOUCH MY BALLS NOW...............
HAVE YOU EVER MADE LOVE TO A WOMAN SUCH AS JADE????? IT WOUL<D BE MAGICAL. I WILL LIGHT CANDLES. COOK DINNER. BUY SPECIAL WINE. ALL FOR YOU JADE.
JADE CAN YOU PLEASE PUT A SPECIAL EASTER EGG IN ASSSASSINS CREDD FOR ME. IT CAN SAY "I LOVE YOU PHARMACY". YES. YES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING JADE. I LOVE YOU DEAREST.
YOU ARE GOOD AT YOUR JOB. IGNORE THESE CYBER BULLIES ON SOMETHINGAWFUL AND NEOGAF. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. TYOUCH MY BALLS NOW...............
Ether_Snake
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Thunder Monkey said:
No offense, but that has to be the dumbest logical jump I've ever read. Women shouldn't be in movies, or music, or anything then? This bit on Jade is far from the worst I've seen.
In case you didn't realize this; Jade is practically the only women in the game business that we actually see in interviews, magazines, etc., talking about the game she works on. Someone said nobody made a fuss about the Kutaragi/Reggie pictures, but considering the male/female ratio in the industry compared to the amount of insults this one woman gets for no reasons; yeah, it's a pretty clear message that all women in the game industry should avoid the camera, especially if they are good looking. I don't think a lot of other women working in this business feel like getting this kind of attention just because they're doing their jobs, giving interviews about the games they work on. You can bet they'll avoid doing what men can do without a problem because unlike most men in the business they will be immediately targeted by childish insults.
End of the world? No, but disappointing and worth calling out? Yeah.
buckfutter
Member
This is an awfully long thread just for some satirical bukkake, guys.
RurouniZel
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*sigh*
Ubisoft is definately barking up the wrong tree (They should be going after Chugworth, not SA), but anyone who defends this comic is a pretentious cocksucker.
"LOL THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS COMIC THERE'S 100X WORSE OUT THERE!" Yeah, and so Waterboarding is a-ok because it's not as bad as the Iron Maiden, right?
Fuck you, get a life. Better yet, get a brain! Just because she's in the fucking limelight doesn't make it right. Just because its been done in the past doesn't make it right. Way to advance the public perception of gamers fellas. I'm getting tired of trying to defend this dick-wadery. For every one step forward we take with a "Child's Play", we take ten steps back with this shit.
Shit like this and its defenders are why assholes like Jack Thompson exist in the first place! He may be the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen, but we aren't doing ourselves any favors defending this smut. Jesus fucking christ!
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Ubisoft is definately barking up the wrong tree (They should be going after Chugworth, not SA), but anyone who defends this comic is a pretentious cocksucker.
"LOL THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS COMIC THERE'S 100X WORSE OUT THERE!" Yeah, and so Waterboarding is a-ok because it's not as bad as the Iron Maiden, right?
Fuck you, get a life. Better yet, get a brain! Just because she's in the fucking limelight doesn't make it right. Just because its been done in the past doesn't make it right. Way to advance the public perception of gamers fellas. I'm getting tired of trying to defend this dick-wadery. For every one step forward we take with a "Child's Play", we take ten steps back with this shit.
Shit like this and its defenders are why assholes like Jack Thompson exist in the first place! He may be the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen, but we aren't doing ourselves any favors defending this smut. Jesus fucking christ!
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RurouniZel
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Zeed said:
I wasn't trying to "own" anything. I was trying to point out that defending shit like this is complete bullshit and needs to stop. I don't to point out every single goddamn fucking example of an argument that's been made in this thread to make one simple point. One example will suffice.
RurouniZel
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Pharmacy said:
My point is that no one deserves to be depicted this way unless they willingly allow themselves to be (i.e. porn actors). My "argument" isn't just for her sake, it's for anyone's sake. Just because it's done a lot doesn't make it right.
RurouniZel
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Armitage said:
For the record my normal avatar is a Prinny. Someone changed it for me.
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RurouniZel said:
i believe the comic falls under parody. she's a public figure.. and thus is fair game.
buckfutter
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RurouniZel said:
The comic is actually targeting the rather woman-unfriendly tactic of foregrounding Jade in the publicity just because she's reasonably attractive. I can't speak for the Chugworth dude, maybe he does want to target her personally, but the most straightforward interpretation of the comic is that it's a satirical attack on Ubisoft and the stuck-in-the-past gamers you apparently think you're not one of - it isn't pro-sexist, it's anti-sexist.
RurouniZel
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quadriplegicjon said:
defamation =/= parody.
RurouniZel
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buckfutter said:
Point taken. However this whole "point" of his could have been accomplished without using her name/game/reference and it would have been just as "funny", probably better.
Its just distasteful.
APZonerunner
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RurouniZel said:
Bu bu bu it has semen!
RurouniZel
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APZonerunner said:
I wouldn't care how much sex were in the comic if it weren't specifically labeling a real person (i.e. not a made up person/character/not existing being that thereby has no feelings of their own). I wouldn't give two shits about this whole thing if it weren't defaming a specific person, hell if that were the case I could see the comic as an actual... gasp... parody!
And with that I'm out, I got me a party to attend. Later PCs.
Manmademan
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RurouniZel said:
your knowledge of the first amendment is shaky at best.
It's not defamation, since the comic doesn't attempt to portray the events depicted as true in any way. No one in their right mind believes that Jade is some kind of bukkake queen, and SomethingAwful isn't trying to convince us she is, either.
The comic is CLEARLY satire, and as it's been pointed out numerous times satire is protected EVEN when said satire could be considered "offensive." Go rent the people vs. larry flynt a few times, then come back.
Thunder Monkey
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Well, yeah it's disappointing, and irritating, but what the fuck do you expect?Ether_Snake said:
The problem isn't the comic. It's irritating, childish, and insulting. It shouldn't have been made. But that won't stop another from being made, and another after that, and after that. She put herself out there just as much as anyone else has. She's in the spotlight. If she didn't want this reaction, or can't handle it she shouldn't be in the spotlight.
That's the simple point. I won't justify the comic, I didn't find it funny, but you can't stop people from being assholes. Either she deals with the stupidity or she gets out of the limelight. The worlds first female leader had a lot more to deal with then a stupid comic. She had her life to worry about.
My advice to Jade, if she's in any part the reason this has blown up into something this big. Deal with it. Get over it. And prove to the idiots that she's more then just a pretty face. They won't stop, but at least she can make a statement about a womans place in this industry.
All anyone can do is ignore the morans.
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RurouniZel said:
sorry, but there is precedence.
http://books.google.com/books?id=nA...skr&sig=5FQ2n96Xiud3QiesLoyOdz9Kp4g#PPA697,M1
RurouniZel said:
The whole joke is that it IS JADE. No one complains when someone splices together a video of Reggie so it sounds like he butt fucked J Allard "in the back room, so to speak."
The only reason you are defending her is because she's a woman who needs to be sheltered and protected, and that makes you far more sexist than the people you are pointing fingers at.
lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
Well, Jade Raymond has metaphorically made what that (unfunny) comic portrays, so what's the whole deal now? And also it's just a shitty webcomic, who gives a crap.
Well, at least that reply to the lawyers was great :lol :lol :lol
Well, at least that reply to the lawyers was great :lol :lol :lol
Guy LeDouche
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stellar logicRurouniZel said:
e: please understand terms like "defamation" and "libel" before you use them. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Ether_Snake said:
It was a message from one douchebag. That's it. Some jerk decided to make a nasty cartoon about Jade Raymond. It wasn't signed by the founding fathers of gaming and we didn't all vote for it, unless I missed my polling place.
Look around internet forums and you can find any horrible thing you want (4chan, I'm looking at you), but taking a single piece of nastiness as if it were some shared ideology of the masses is histrionic.
Ubi suing is lame.
But the comic is bothersome, not because of its content, but what it implies. Is it saying that game journalists are such losers they'll hype any game made by an attractive girl or that any game made by a girl could only get good press because she did sexual favors for it?
But the comic is bothersome, not because of its content, but what it implies. Is it saying that game journalists are such losers they'll hype any game made by an attractive girl or that any game made by a girl could only get good press because she did sexual favors for it?
Gary Whitta
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They would have the BEST-LOOKING CHILDREN EVER.Chipopo said:
Great Rumbler
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Dolphin said:
Only 9 out of 10?
Thunder Monkey said:
No offense, but that has to be the dumbest logical jump I've ever read. Women shouldn't be in movies, or music, or anything then? This bit on Jade is far from the worst I've seen.
I've seen some truly twisted stuff about Paris Hilton, Margaret Thatcher, hell any woman in anything ever. Guys get just as bad of treatment. The problem here isn't that this comic got made. No, if you're in the limelight you have to deal with this crap regardless.
The problem is people making a big deal out of it. The idiots, chauvanists, just all around fucktards will always exist. They will always be doing this same kind of crap. You can't stop them, no one can.
The only thing that can be done, is ignoring them. Because they won't go away. As time goes on, and more and more women make it big in the industry, this crap will continue.
Spotlight = mocking. By those that are jealous, those that are all around stupid. Deal with it, or stay out of the spotlight. Jade can deal. Just like every other woman and man in that spotlight must.
You think Tom Cruise lets all the gay jokes get to him? No, he just lathers up and hops into his tub of philipino men.
I love you.
You were great at TXB, and you're still great here.:lol
JohnTinker
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There's too many of you to quote in this thread, but it applies to a lot of you,
grandjedi6
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I feel I need to quote myself from page 3:
grandjedi6 said:
ZombieSupaStar
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JohnTinker said:There's too many of you to quote in this thread, but it applies to a lot of you,
:lol :lol
ParticleReality
Banned
I'm going to do this to the women that work at Level 5. Why? Because nobody gives 2 shits about them. Why is that eactly? Because they aren't "hot" or out there repeating what their bosses tell them, looking all pretty and appealing to gamers. They're in the studio working right next to the co-workers making a fucking game.
What can Jade take credit for exactly? What makes her so God Damn great that everyone else has to stand 10 feet behind her?
What can Jade take credit for exactly? What makes her so God Damn great that everyone else has to stand 10 feet behind her?
POWERSPHERE
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God damn, he has a head you just want to punch!
ParticleReality
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HomShaBom said:
That would make me sad.
RurouniZel
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HomShaBom said:
Not quite, I was just going out to be social with something other than a keyboard is all. And a little drink doesn't hurt either. :3
The problem I personally have with this comic (and I will state outright that I have no "legal" basis for my argument, just morals) with this compared to various political cartoons is that, unlike this comic, they actually succeed in making an important point, usually to call someone out on their bullshit and present it in such a way that makes the situation more obvious visually. If this comic was trying to make a point, it didn't do it well at all. I may hate George W. Bush with a passion, but even I would defend his retarded ass if political comics depicted him sucking dicks to get his way (or implying as such). The only thing this comic succeeded in doing is implying that the woman in question is a stupid whore who'll suck anyone off if they'll buy her game. Its not fair to her at all. I didn't even know who she was before this whole thread started, but I just imagine what I'd do if I were in her shoes. I can't even imagine how difficult it must be to be an attractive woman in the videogame industry; frankly if I were her I'd get out of there and find a better place that isn't going to make snap judgements about her simply because she's an attractive woman who's also found some success. God almighty she can't have done that on her own without sucking people off right? RIGHT?
And no, I'm not sticking my nose in this because she's a woman. I don't care male, female, gay, straight, black, white doesn't fucking matter to me. People are people, and there's just some lines of common decency that shouldn't be crossed. I get pissed off when people defend these things simply because they're protected by law. Yes, people have the right to say what they want, but being a responsible adult means knowing when its time to speak and when its time to keep it in check. I kind of burst in anger a bit earlier and I apologize for calling people pretentious cocksuckers.
But I'm getting sick and tired of trying to defend our community when stuff like this goes down. I'm a pretty hardcore gamer, and just like many of us here, I've had my fair share of being misunderstood by "normal" people. I don't want to be associated with crap like this, all it does is bring the rest of us down. What I love about Penny Arcade's "Child's Play" is that it not only helps kids in various hospitals all across the country, it helps give us gamers a better name in a world that tries to depict us as crazy serial killers who undergo hours of murder simulation every day.
Shit like this... its just not defendable. I don't care how perfectly legal it may be, I can't and won't defend it. If we really want to put a stop to the likes of assholes like Jack Thompson, we have to rid ourselves of this rep we don't deserve. We have to rise above it, not sink down to their level.
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