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[Shaki12345]

Even Michael Pachter has better takes than this dude.

 

[mayham2199]

That would kill the reason for the PS6 to exist. No way there's a 7 year cross-gen period. It'll be 2-3 years. MAX!

It will be there for the people who want to upgrade and for people who just want to go straight from PS4 to PS6. It will be no different then the way GPUs work in the PC market. I believe it's part of the reason Sony switched to focusing on MAUs over console sales because they just want people in their console ecosystem PS4/PS5/PS6 doesn't really matter to them.

 

[Three]

Well the question then becomes which existing windows handheld brand are they going to slap their logo on?

Whoever it is will give us a good indication for who they will partner with for that upconing rumoured PC.

Most likely Lenovo if I had to guess based on their CES panel.

 

[Sooner]

"Partner" handheld? Oh, boy.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Man....you crazy!!!! LOL! You think the PS5 generation will last 15 years?!?!

100%. PS6 will probably have small exclusives at launch like a Bloodborne remake or maybe another Ratchet and Clank, but gaming has stagnated. The majority of 3rd party publishers will support the Switch 2 for the next 8-10 years too. Which means it's a no brainer to support PS5 as well

And unless chip prices dramatically drop, I would suspect the PS6 will sell much worse. Most consumers will not shell out 7-800$ for a console. The player base will be much smaller, so the cross-gen period will last much longer than this generation

 

[ChiefDada]

So the supposed 2027 console will already be limited by 2025 handheld architecture, with the PS6 arriving in 2028...

 

[KeplerL2]

Just another Windows machine is a head scratcher imo also confirmed by an actual source here

 

[DryvBy]

Update:

Microsoft is combining ‘the best of Xbox and Windows together’ for handhelds

The Windows handheld gaming experience may change in 2025.

www.theverge.com

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Wooxsvan]

Update:

Microsoft is combining ‘the best of Xbox and Windows together’ for handhelds

The Windows handheld gaming experience may change in 2025.

www.theverge.com

if this means the xbox OS on a PC but without steam, its DoA

 

[Astray]

Jez has like 0 chill in him lol.

if this means the xbox OS on a PC but without steam, its DoA

I have no idea why anyone expects Microsoft to just hand over its subscriber and paying base over to Valve for free.

A lot of people talk about how great this would be for them, but no one has thought through why it would be good for Microsoft.

 

[odhiex]

So, another ROG Ally/Legion Go type of handheld? Sure, since every screen is an XBOX now.

 

[Mr Moose]

Isn't he just taking things that HeisenbergFX4 has been saying for a long ass time now?

 

[RetroGamingUK]

if this means the xbox OS on a PC but without steam, its DoA

Eh?

The handheld Xbox is a Windows PC, of course it’ll run Steam.

It’ll work just like a ROG Ally.

 

[Parazels]

How big is a game library in Xbox store on PC in comparison to Steam?

I mean, which handheld would be better in terms of games diversity?

 

[Little Mac]

I’m sorry but for me it’s all about the Switch 2 going forward and maybe the Steam Deck 2 next year.

 

[ZehDon]

Another portable Windows PC would be fine, but it'll need to differentiate itself somehow from the other hardware on more meaningful properties, such as price, battery life, grunt, thinner, lighter - things that matter in this space. An Xbox Guide button doesn't really achieve that goal, in my opinion. Curious to see what they're putting together, but not sure it'll be enough to warrant trading in my Steam Deck.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[Orbital2060]

Cant wait to play PlayStation games on my Xbox handheld

 

[Kacho]

Update:

Microsoft is combining ‘the best of Xbox and Windows together’ for handhelds

The Windows handheld gaming experience may change in 2025.

www.theverge.com

Very curious to see how they merge the two spaces

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Phil Spencer is Eminem.
Jez and tom warren are Ken Kaniff and shaggy.

 

[RoboFu]

The MS Mortem.

 

[GHG]

When they fight, everyone wins.

 

[Crayon]

The fake-xbox pc makes sense to me. That way, the hardcore fans have somewhere to go.

As a handheld? Little weird but it might be a good testbed as the 'conaole' would be under a ton more scrutiny.

 

[lh032]

This guy yaps a lot.

He's a fan of Phil .

 

[StereoVsn]

The decision to launch a Windows-based handheld is overwhelmingly logical.

Could anyone really expect an Xbox Handheld in 2025 that would need specific third-party support??? You would need a handheld with the power of XSS and that is impossible today.

The association with a partner and continuing to be based on Windows ensures support and will surely serve to test the market and serve as a test bed for a future 100% proprietary handheld and its desktop proposal.

Then, I am interested in knowing more about the new controllers. Will they release new Xbox controllers with new features before the new hardware or will they wait for a joint launch???

I would have thought their handheld would allow native Xbox games… if they waited till next year.

As it is, the device seems completely pointless. Why buy MS Handheld which is basically OEM built vs Asus or Lenovo or other Windows devices.

Ans then we will probably get Steam Deck 2 next year with UDNA chipset.

This is just a head scratcher. And of course unless MS improves Windows experience on the handheld it still will be kind of iffy.

 

[onnextflix5]

This guy is troll at this point, remember when he said rumours about Xbox games were coming to PlayStation was bullshit ,

 

[Pedro Motta]

LOL who the hell is running Xbox? What a terrible decision this is...

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Jez is well known for being a mouthpiece for whatever MS wants to be publicly known

Which implies MS is as confused about their strategy as anyone else judging from the schizo "rumors" being circulated recently

 

[BlackTron]

They could have tried to steal some of Switch's thunder any time over the last six years. Now go head to head with Switch 2.

Even the most junior gaming scholars know never to directly attack a Nintendo handheld (it's as getting involved in a land war in Asia). But they have a unique twist in mind that will differentiate this from past attempts: ports for Switch 2!

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but if the next Xbox is just a PC running Windows, would MS still make you pay for multiplayer?

 

[Sooner]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but if the next Xbox is just a PC running Windows, would MS still make you pay for multiplayer?

I assume you'd still be buying and playing games through Steam. It won't be an Xbox at all in reality, so no.

 

[bitbydeath]

Cant wait to play PlayStation games on my Xbox handheld

You don’t even have to wait, you can buy a ROG Ally and an Xbox sticker right now and you’re done!

 

[Humdinger]

I'm getting tired of the rumors and speculation. Feels like we just go round and round the mulberry bush, over and over. I'm sure it will continue until they release the damn thing(s), though.

 

[reinking]

I'm getting tired of the rumors and speculation. Feels like we just go round and round the mulberry bush, over and over. I'm sure it will continue until they release the damn thing(s), though.

I have realized Phil cannot please me. When he talks too much, I want him to shut up. Now I want him to start talking and spill the beans on Xbox's future. I am slowly starting to realize that I might be the problem.

 

[Sooner]

I have realized Phil cannot please me. When he talks too much, I want him to shut up. Now I want him to start talking and spill the beans on Xbox's future. I am slowly starting to realize that I might be the problem.

Or maybe when he talks, not spin BS or lie directly to our faces? Nah. Must be us.

 

[Kumomeme]

at this point Microsoft just chase whatever hottest trend in hope of they can somehow be lucky on the process. disregard of whatever their original intention or their overall readiness are. even if they are late to the party.

personally i dont see how it would be a gamechanger but i dont suprise if they change the course again depend on whatever trend rise on market.

but more company jump in on pc handheld market is good.

however if Microsoft actually try to escape Sony by enter console exclusive handheld market which is gonna put him directly on indirectly against Nintendo,

 

[indigoSociety]

Whoa shock and awe ! An overwhelmingly negative response to something Xbox related on Neogaf. Totally unexpected

 

[saintjules]

 

[Topher]

 

[Topher]

Isn't he just taking things that HeisenbergFX4 has been saying for a long ass time now?

The vast majority of Jez's takes are rehashed takes from elsewhere. I think Tom Warren is highlighting this by reposting his article from January. But yeah, HeisenbergFX4 has been saying this stuff long before now.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Xbox really trying to see what sticks throwing a lot of hardware out there next couple of years

 

[LordBritish]

O baby my 300+ games for gold games are ready...
please be true, have oled, and cost $599 or less

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Xbox really trying to see what sticks throwing a lot of hardware out there next couple of years

Everything sounds quite low risk here.

Licence out the Xbox brand to the likes of ASUS and Lenovo and let them make the hardware.

The platform (Xbox app/store) on Windows 11 is already there too, so minimal effort required on that front.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Everything sounds quite low risk here.

Licence out the Xbox brand to the likes of ASUS and Lenovo and let them make the hardware.

The platform (Xbox app/store) on Windows 11 is already there too, so minimal effort required on that front.

Everything that is coming wont all be OEM and maybe some of it will never see the light of day but it seems full steam ahead for them with again multiple skus

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Everything that is coming wont all be OEM and maybe some of it will never see the light of day but it seems full steam ahead for them with again multiple skus

Yes, we may even see one made by Microsoft.

I guess Xbox going forward will be like Surface. Surface is a Windows PC, but so is an ASUS Zenbook or a Lenovo Legion, different manufacturers, but they all run the same software.

 

[diffusionx]

Jez has like 0 chill in him lol.


I have no idea why anyone expects Microsoft to just hand over its subscriber and paying base over to Valve for free.

A lot of people talk about how great this would be for them, but no one has thought through why it would be good for Microsoft.

main character syndrome

 

[lughnasadh123]

Having a partnership with hardware that you'll be competing with in a few years seems like a really odd choice.

The most interesting question is what will the 2027 handheld be running that's different from the partnership devices?

 

[Sethbacca]

Whoa shock and awe ! An overwhelmingly negative response to something Xbox related on Neogaf. Totally unexpected

I mean, the alternative here is that they could just not make shit decisions that elicit such responses?

 

[mckmas8808]

It will be there for the people who want to upgrade and for people who just want to go straight from PS4 to PS6. It will be no different then the way GPUs work in the PC market. I believe it's part of the reason Sony switched to focusing on MAUs over console sales because they just want people in their console ecosystem PS4/PS5/PS6 doesn't really matter to them.

Sony didn't switch to MAUs over console sales. What are you saying?

100%. PS6 will probably have small exclusives at launch like a Bloodborne remake or maybe another Ratchet and Clank, but gaming has stagnated. The majority of 3rd party publishers will support the Switch 2 for the next 8-10 years too. Which means it's a no brainer to support PS5 as well

And unless chip prices dramatically drop, I would suspect the PS6 will sell much worse. Most consumers will not shell out 7-800$ for a console. The player base will be much smaller, so the cross-gen period will last much longer than this generation

I'd be shocked if the PS6 launched at $700 or more. That would be CRAZY!

Jez has like 0 chill in him lol.


I have no idea why anyone expects Microsoft to just hand over its subscriber and paying base over to Valve for free.

A lot of people talk about how great this would be for them, but no one has thought through why it would be good for Microsoft.

I've been wondering this for over a year now with no answers.

Having a partnership with hardware that you'll be competing with in a few years seems like a really odd choice.

The most interesting question is what will the 2027 handheld be running that's different from the partnership devices?

Perfect question!