I can respect that, but at the same time, those who prefer the traditional route, are no different. We all want to enjoy games in the end, right?I prefer the sub model. It works better for me. And let's be honest. Even if you still buy physical, you don't own anything but a piece of plastic.
I've bought too many games I regret, and rented a lot of games from Blockbuster as a child to a young adult.I prefer the sub model. It works better for me. And let's be honest. Even if you still buy physical, you don't own anything but a piece of plastic.
So you never rented games from Blockbuster or any other video store while growing up?I can respect that, but at the same time, those who prefer the traditional route, are no different. We all want to enjoy games in the end, right?
Its ok muffinThat’s how out of touch you are.
...What I was saying is for a 1:1 COMPARISON you need to find the XBOX MAU also. You merely posted the Sony stats when in your original reply.
lolDo you understand if you could find accurate PSN MAU numbers
I did before I had a disposable income. Which is why I’m not “anti sub”, see below….So you never rented games from Blockbuster or any other video store while growing up?
You just bought everything you ever wanted to play?
I’m not anti-sub at all, I am anti “hurr durr $70” to support the shortcoming feelings of said $70 game NOT on your sub service tho.I've bought too many games I regret, and rented a lot of games from Blockbuster as a child to a young adult.
I think most of us here are used to a hybrid of renting and buying games.
Most who have been through that see subscriptions as an upgraded version of our old habits.
I'm really not sure where the anti subscription ppl came from.
That's what it was and it worked.Sounds like Console waring bait
I can respect that, but at the same time, those who prefer the traditional route, are no different. We all want to enjoy games in the end, right?
Probably should wait, if it's the current subscription plus 3 new promised games, that's going to be easily disputable.By far the best game subscription service.
Ok.The sub model also works great for folks who generally don't like keeping a lot of games around and sell/trade them back after being done (eg me).
I pay $30 for 12 months.Probably should wait, if it's the current subscription plus 3 new promised games, that's going to be easily disputable.
Especially since every proud Sony owner already bought those games to support the developers. Right?
Those 30.00 deals are likely gone now with these new tiers.I pay $30 for 12 months.
Excellent online play and some decent free games.
Nothing comes close.
Yes I also buy the games I like![]()
Such value.PS Plus the top dog on the market!
I bought 2 years worth.Those 30.00 deals are likely gone now with these new tiers.
And I also buy games I like.![]()
You seem upset.Such value.
Everyone give it up.
Top Dawg.
We should all celebrate in a game of Gravity Rush online.
That's what it pays for right?
Right?
Nice.I bought 2 years worth.
Galaxy Rush is better than most GP gamesYou seem upset.
Not at all, it was meant to be funny.You seem upset.
Yet I can still play all those games online.Galaxy Rush is better than most GP games![]()
Now subscription is almost dead. This restructure will no doubt make the streaming option more popular than ever. Sorry to the handful of users that has now without plus, but that’s not a good business model.Again what if a person doesn't want plus and just wants to continue playing the Now library?
It's a massive price hike for them for a feature they arent looking for.
Also 1 million ppl with now that don't have plus is 1/3 (or 33%) of psnow current user base*
*Maybe not today current since so many jumped on to the 49.99 deal to convert later when it upgrades.
Sony saw a mass influx of users that day.
Won’t stop headlines like this triggering you over and over. Doesn’t matter that you can read or not.Anyone with two eyes who can read can figure it out. If anything the ps plus new tiered system is more complicated, you need a chart just to check and see what you getting at each level.....
Not all of themYet I can still play all those games online.
Ok.
I notice people can’t simply just agree with both. They have to justify, justify, justify.
Does it do any harm by keeping it as a model?Now subscription is almost dead. This restructure will no doubt make the streaming option more popular than ever. Sorry to the handful of users that has now without plus, but that’s not a good business model.
Fuck em, I say!Not at all, it was meant to be funny.
I mean if you are paying to reduce server costs and they shut them down anyway, is it really that great?
What are you talking about?Not all of them
You also can't download everyone that's been on the service![]()
Isn’t that a prepaid phone?Galaxy Rush is better than most GP games![]()
That's about the answer I expect.Fuck em, I say!
It’s not a tier if it removes features from a lower tier. Each one is a built upon the previous. No 3rd floor without 2 below it.Does it do any harm by keeping it as a model?
Obviously nobody heard of it previously, so why not keep a tier that is only interested in it?
Not every GP game stays on GP.What are you talking about?
I mean, corpo gonna do what their bottom line is gonna do. I’ll be sad for oh, 30 seconds, and move on to the next allotted time filled distraction. Play mainly single player anyhow, while we all can still.That's about the answer I expect.
So why is the bottom tier the one people might not want.It’s not a tier if it removes features from a lower tier. Each one is a built upon the previous. No 3rd floor without 2 below it.
Can you name one that still doesn't have online support?Not every GP game stays on GP.
Not every GP game still has online support.
PSnow has NICHE numbers so no loss there.So why is the bottom tier the one people might not want.
Throw PSNow as the bottom, online in the middle and streaming and retro on top.
Seems easy enough.
Sounds like subscription gaming is right up you alley then.I mean, corpo gonna do what their bottom line is gonna do. I’ll be sad for oh, 30 seconds, and move on to the next allotted time filled distraction. Play mainly single player anyhow, while we all can still.
Sounds like subscription gaming is right up you alley then.
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This is such a terrible argument.PSnow has NICHE numbers so no loss there.
+ is the big gaming money maker service.
Nope I still have my + games.Can you name one that still doesn't have online support?
We all know games will come and go, so will the "New PS+"
Nope I still have my + games.
You use GP and don't even know
Let me help just a little.
EA has some GP games that no longer have online support (if GP didn't remove them)
Yes there is more.
Since you just learnt something it's your turn to look up the other games on GP that no longer have online support.
EA isn't gamepass. Its a perk rolled into ultimate.Nope I still have my + games.
You use GP and don't even know
Let me help just a little.
EA has some GP games that no longer have online support (if GP didn't remove them)
Yes there is more.
Since you just learnt something it's your turn to look up the other games on GP that no longer have online support.
It's not a argument it's a business decision.This is such a terrible argument.
If it's thier big money maker it makes sense to put it in the middle.
You don't offer your money maker as the bottom tier, you offer it as the midrange and try to upsell it.
Making it the bare minimum for some is going to be an automatic turnoff.
This is the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.LOL
You can't say "some games don't have online support"
then say "ok you look up some games that don't have online support now"
Name names please, you're on a streak of terrible half baked trolling lately.
PS. Not that it needs to be said again, but PS+ is not comparable to game pass. You're looking for Games w/ Gold, and people retain their Games w/ Gold games just like PS+ games.
Because of the community,It's not a argument it's a business decision.
+ is likely the biggest money making subscription in console gaming actually.
You don't force these types of things so keeping it at the bottom makes the most sense.
MS tried doing that last year and changed it back with the quickness.